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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI have a feeling that if Emmer gets to a floor vote, Democrats will put him over the top
He's probably the best we can hope for.
mahina
(20,466 posts)But somebody has to. I think Hakeem Jeffries just got this under control, and I trust his judgment more than I trust our states centrist Ed Case.
Windicator
(157 posts)"Emmer told the truth. He failed to support The Big Lie. He's a RINO. Vote him down."
- Grand Imperial Republican Liar

yankee87
(2,765 posts)I see where you are, but why not wait and see if we can flip some to vote D.
BootinUp
(50,986 posts)to rescue the House GOP. I am hoping we at least get some rules changed. Let the country see what a clusterfuck the puke party is.
boston bean
(36,874 posts)Renew Deal
(84,718 posts)Politically it helps Emmer if Dems don't vote for him.
LetMyPeopleVote
(175,578 posts)Emmer will know that the Freedom Caucus will be gunning for him and will need to work with Democrats to defeat a motion to remove
patricia92243
(12,971 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,461 posts)You only need to win a majority of votes for a person.
patricia92243
(12,971 posts)Walleye
(43,902 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,461 posts)Currently 433 seats are filled, so 217 is the magic number. If 10 Republicans voted present, it would be 423, and 212 would win the day. But that doesn't allow for a single Democrat to vote Present. Odds of 10 Repubs voting present are basically nil. But if Dems can strike a deal, they could allow a Repub to win and also deny they voted for him.
Walleye
(43,902 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,461 posts)Doubt the latter part would happen this time.
Walleye
(43,902 posts)getagrip_already
(17,802 posts)And voting present is not counted as a vote. So it reduces the count of those voting by 1 for every member who does it, thus reducing the number of votes someone needs to be elected.
NutmegYankee
(16,461 posts)getagrip_already
(17,802 posts)Just sayin....
patricia92243
(12,971 posts)that person off - like they did McCarthy. (Or whatever the procedure is.) If that is still the case, they will just turn around and kick Emmer out.
getagrip_already
(17,802 posts)They can't vote on a new rules package until they have a new speaker.
Then it's a torturous path mid term I believe to enact new rules. It has to go through committe, debate, full house vote, etc.
But if Emmer is elected speaker, presumably whatever majority elects him will defeat a motion to remove him.
AkFemDem
(2,508 posts)They will have a certain number not vote, which then lowers the bar on how many republicans Emmer would need to pass. I don't see any democrats openly voting for him though.
dalton99a
(92,396 posts)
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)Nice guy
Happy Hoosier
(9,424 posts)Nope. ANy candidate that wants D votes needs to offer an actual reason to support them. Because 100%, the GQP is gonna do its level-best to shit all over Democrats.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,484 posts)Johonny
(25,568 posts)A single vote without an agreement in place. Best can hope for means little.
jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)And they are all functionally the same anyway.
iemanja
(57,463 posts)Cuthbert Allgood
(5,339 posts)This is their problem. They need to fix it. Just like zero Republicans will for for a Dem.
onenote
(46,005 posts)to adhere to the budget terms included in the debt ceiling deal and to keep the government open and to fund Israel and Ukraine per the president's plan.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)...without a prior agreement with Jeffries that's we'd have heard about.
getagrip_already
(17,802 posts)I seriously doubt we would hear shit unless and until Jeffries wanted us to hear something.
The Republicans he would be talking like wouldn't leak and neither would he.
I'm sure this has been whispered over for a while between the sides. We just don't know it. We may never know it cuz nothing may ever happen.
LetMyPeopleVote
(175,578 posts)totodeinhere
(13,688 posts)I am holding out hope that five fairly reasonable Republican moderates will cross over and vote for Jeffries. That would by far be the best outcome.
Mister Ed
(6,845 posts)He's no good, that's for sure. I've had the dubious privilege of being his constituent until a boundary change put me in another district. Mrs. Ed has had the even more dubious honor of being part of a group of citizens who met with him in his office over local environmental concerns. You can be sure he was of no help with that. Mrs. Ed found him utterly repellent in person.
In other words, he's a Republican. But he's not batshit crazy, and he's not actively trying to sabotage and destroy the U.S. government. So yeah, he's probably the least worst we can get for now.
Prairie_Seagull
(4,606 posts)ananda
(34,508 posts)Emmer is horrible.
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)The days of unilateral surrender to the Republicans need to end.
EnergizedLib
(2,935 posts)Emmer has awful positions on things and hes seen as the least crazy of their candidates.