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catbyte

(39,154 posts)
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 08:27 PM Oct 2023

'We're desperate': McCarthy floats plan to return as speaker with Jordan as assistant

David McAfee
October 24, 2023 7:53PM ET

Kevin McCarthy is floating a plan that would make him House speaker once again, but this time around he would be accompanied by Trump ally Jim Jordan as assistant speaker, NBC reports.

McCarthy was removed from the position by eight hardline Republicans including Matt Gaetz, after which McCarthy threw his support behind Jordan's speaker bid. Jordan, however, was unable to achieve the number of votes needed to get the gavel. Then, several other Republicans similarly failed to get the votes.

Now, there is a new plan under which the two would join forces, according to NBC.

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"Asked why the idea — which lacks key details, like how it would be enacted and whether it could even gain enough traction to happen — was being floated now, a GOP lawmaker replied: 'We’re desperate," NBC reported. "While the idea might seem far-fetched and it has not been pitched broadly within the GOP Conference, it is being discussed among some Republicans after Emmer, the third GOP nominee, dropped his bid. A source briefed on the idea likened it to the Speaker Nancy Pelosi/Assistant Speaker Katherine Clark arrangement that the Democrats had."

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Can they get any more pathetic?

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'We're desperate': McCarthy floats plan to return as speaker with Jordan as assistant (Original Post) catbyte Oct 2023 OP
Two half-wits do not make a whole. Sneederbunk Oct 2023 #1
With Those Two, It's Multiplicative ProfessorGAC Oct 2023 #3
Spock would say somethin like It could be very dangerous to mind meld BootinUp Oct 2023 #25
McCarthy's Mini Me. TheBlackAdder Oct 2023 #16
Enough with the gimmicks, are they desperate enough to talk to the Democrats yet? Walleye Oct 2023 #2
Jordan as ass speaker lame54 Oct 2023 #4
We already know how useless Jordan is as and assistant. It's the old I see nothing, hear nothing and ignore the rest. usaf-vet Oct 2023 #22
Hakeem Jeffries has gotten a plurality of votes multiple times. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #5
Desperadoes or desperados? dchill Oct 2023 #6
Would that even be Constitutional? madaboutharry Oct 2023 #7
Yes, its constitutional former9thward Oct 2023 #14
So, McCarthy is willing to capitulate to the nut caucus madaboutharry Oct 2023 #17
If that is the arrangement it would be a mistake. former9thward Oct 2023 #19
"capitulate" - AGAIN. Those two together won't last a day. UTUSN Oct 2023 #20
Shouldn't that be dilute? No. Wait. With weakling Kevin15, it truly is delude. keithbvadu2 Oct 2023 #28
Yeah, typo and autocorrect madaboutharry Oct 2023 #29
I liked 'delude'. keithbvadu2 Oct 2023 #31
As long as it's not Donalds. underpants Oct 2023 #8
Agree. 617Blue Oct 2023 #11
Ha! Ha! Mike Nelson Oct 2023 #9
assistant speaker????? Takket Oct 2023 #10
Pelosi had the same arrangement. former9thward Oct 2023 #15
No, she did NOT have the same arrangement maxrandb Oct 2023 #23
You are speculating and trying to make it seem like facts. former9thward Oct 2023 #43
How can you say, after seeing the Retrumplicant House soup-sandwich maxrandb Oct 2023 #44
Two piles of crap for the price of one marmar Oct 2023 #12
It takes two of them to do the job Former Speaker Pelosi did with aplomb... Hugin Oct 2023 #13
I mean, it makes sense insofar as the profile/power boost for Jordan may RockRaven Oct 2023 #18
Just to be clear this is not Gym being put forth as majority whip. ALBliberal Oct 2023 #21
Yes, it's totally made up. catbyte Oct 2023 #41
Shut UP LOSERS. Cha Oct 2023 #24
Can you believe these two fucksticks???? Blue Owl Oct 2023 #26
Coalition speakership? Silent Type Oct 2023 #27
Just resign. The chaos crew should be removed Bluethroughu Oct 2023 #30
They should be indicted too. NYC Liberal Oct 2023 #34
100% Bluethroughu Oct 2023 #37
That would be so harmonious a partnership. usonian Oct 2023 #32
They have literally been clowning 🤡 🎭 for 3 weeks now. live love laugh Oct 2023 #33
I'm a little surprised that McCarthy didn't propose MTG as his "assistant". no_hypocrisy Oct 2023 #35
Screw the election deniers! Emile Oct 2023 #36
Same vibe Shrek Oct 2023 #38
If you can't be an athlete be an athletic supporter Johonny Oct 2023 #39
The sales for "Desperation: The Cologne" should be brisk in MAGAtland. bluesbassman Oct 2023 #40
Reps are desperately hiding the fact that they know randr Oct 2023 #42

Walleye

(44,807 posts)
2. Enough with the gimmicks, are they desperate enough to talk to the Democrats yet?
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 08:31 PM
Oct 2023

Every one of those Democrats was elected by their district just like they were. The Democrats aren’t from a foreign country, deal with them. Republicans making bargains with each other? Would be meaningless

usaf-vet

(7,811 posts)
22. We already know how useless Jordan is as and assistant. It's the old I see nothing, hear nothing and ignore the rest.
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 10:48 PM
Oct 2023

Useless smart ass.

madaboutharry

(42,033 posts)
17. So, McCarthy is willing to capitulate to the nut caucus
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 09:34 PM
Oct 2023

Last edited Tue Oct 24, 2023, 11:33 PM - Edit history (1)

and dilute the power of the Speaker. Isn’t that what got him kicked out in the first place?

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
19. If that is the arrangement it would be a mistake.
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 09:41 PM
Oct 2023

No one should accept an arrangement which lowers the power of the Speaker.

UTUSN

(77,795 posts)
20. "capitulate" - AGAIN. Those two together won't last a day.
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 09:47 PM
Oct 2023

He might as well have GAETZ as his assistant.

Mike Nelson

(10,943 posts)
9. Ha! Ha!
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 08:49 PM
Oct 2023

... having Jim as an asst. make Kevin more attractive? Weird... they're both Trump kissers, so how does that help? Maybe they should call Nancy Pelosi and ask her how it's done.

maxrandb

(17,428 posts)
23. No, she did NOT have the same arrangement
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 10:48 PM
Oct 2023

For decades, Democrats have elected an Assistant Speaker from their caucus. They are #4 in the "caucus" leadership and served as a "whip" to help whip votes.

The Retrumplicants are trying to create some kind of "co-speakership". They are trying to use the fact that Dems have called their #4 in House leadership "assistant speaker" for decades to try to argue; "see, we're just doing what the Dems do".

It's bullshit, and it's twisting language to try to shoehorn their shitshow into something normal.

Anyone think that Speaker Pelosi ever had to get approval from Congresswoman Clark?

Anyone think McCarthy wouldn't have get approval from Gym?

What McCarthy is suggesting in no way is similar to Clark being elected by her caucus as "assistant speaker".

In the Navy we had a supply guy called "Jack of the Dust". His name wasn't Jack, and he didn't rule the dust.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
43. You are speculating and trying to make it seem like facts.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:47 AM
Oct 2023

Neither you nor I know what type of arrangement Pelosi had with Clark. Or what a R plan would be.

maxrandb

(17,428 posts)
44. How can you say, after seeing the Retrumplicant House soup-sandwich
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 01:52 PM
Oct 2023

for the better part of 2 decades now, "you don't know what a Retrumplicant plan would be"?

Maybe stop "speculating" about Retrumplicants. It just serves to "normalize" them.

"Gee Jim, I don't know...maybe, if we put two asspickles together, we get a functional Congress"

Hugin

(37,848 posts)
13. It takes two of them to do the job Former Speaker Pelosi did with aplomb...
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 09:21 PM
Oct 2023

I'm surprised the smartest MEN in the room will admit that.

RockRaven

(19,381 posts)
18. I mean, it makes sense insofar as the profile/power boost for Jordan may
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 09:39 PM
Oct 2023

get some of those Rs who voted to ditch McCarthy to accept Kevin back. They need to get something to change their vote vis-a-vis Kevin. But he needs to get half of those rogues, without losing a single other R (who may, for example, object to empowering/enabling Jordan further even if not the Speaker).

I doubt McCarthy actually tested this proposal out in private with the relevant people before floating it publicly -- which would be really dumb if so. The Rs who voted to oust Kevin and the Rs who voted against Jordan as Speaker ads up to about 30 people. That's who he would need to make this deal with (getting all but 4 to agree).

ALBliberal

(3,347 posts)
21. Just to be clear this is not Gym being put forth as majority whip.
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 10:46 PM
Oct 2023

Correct? This a a position they are inventing?

TIA

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
30. Just resign. The chaos crew should be removed
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 11:34 PM
Oct 2023

From office for their part in 1/6 and the rest should resign because they are scared of doing their jobs.

Do us all a favor and resign.

Johonny

(26,183 posts)
39. If you can't be an athlete be an athletic supporter
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:00 AM
Oct 2023

Jim Jordan's role as assistant speaker summed up.

randr

(12,648 posts)
42. Reps are desperately hiding the fact that they know
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:16 AM
Oct 2023

Jeffries is the better choice for the country.
Let the man who gets the most votes rule!

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