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marmar

(79,739 posts)
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 09:14 PM Oct 2023

Hungry javelinas plague prestigious Arizona golf course with oversized divots




(Guardian UK) With no respect for etiquette on the fairways, let alone a dress code, a group of scruffy porcine invaders has left a trail of devastation across a prestigious Arizona golf course hailed among the country’s finest.

Greenkeepers at the picturesque Seven Canyons Golf Club in Sedona have posted to social media videos of the destruction wrought by the marauding pack of javelinas, also known as collared peccaries, which has dug up large areas of the course.

“What should be one of the most beautiful golf courses in the country is being destroyed by herds of javelina,” Em Casey, assistant superintendent of the club, posted to X, formerly Twitter.

According to Golf Monthly, the rooting javelinas have been active for several weeks, creating a sprawling patchwork of oversized divots that would put even the most hapless hacker to shame. Tees, fairways and rough of multiple holes have all experienced the unwelcome excavation. .............(more)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/24/arizona-javelina-pig-destroy-golf-course




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Hungry javelinas plague prestigious Arizona golf course with oversized divots (Original Post) marmar Oct 2023 OP
Invaders? GoCubsGo Oct 2023 #1
What about when bears or other animals attack humans in National Parks? former9thward Oct 2023 #6
What about bacteria? What about smallpox? Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2023 #29
What about them? GoCubsGo Oct 2023 #36
That is not the policy of the U.S. Park District. former9thward Oct 2023 #37
I know enough to know that there is no such thing as the U.S. Park District. GoCubsGo Oct 2023 #38
Oh, A typo cop! former9thward Oct 2023 #39
Whatever. I'm not interested in whatever fight you're trying to pick with me. GoCubsGo Oct 2023 #41
Yeah inthewind21 Oct 2023 #44
Hmmmm... TSExile Oct 2023 #2
They probably wouldn't do well there in winter Attilatheblond Oct 2023 #15
Well then... TSExile Oct 2023 #17
Heck of a plan! Attilatheblond Oct 2023 #18
Heh heh heh... TSExile Oct 2023 #19
*COUGH* Feral Hogs *COUGH* hatrack Oct 2023 #21
They aren't feral hogs Zeitghost Oct 2023 #33
No, I meant which animals should be introduced to Bedminster . . . hatrack Oct 2023 #34
Got it Zeitghost Oct 2023 #35
It wouldn't matter since he never hits the fairway Ferrets are Cool Oct 2023 #31
LOL ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #47
It's time for humans to reassert their dominence. Renew Deal Oct 2023 #3
I am seeing a Caddyshack moment here. JanMichael Oct 2023 #4
Has anyone checked the pool yet for a Baby Ruth? n/t Xavier Breath Oct 2023 #14
Think Like a Javelina Yavin4 Oct 2023 #40
How much water is wasted on a golf course in Arizona redqueen Oct 2023 #5
None. former9thward Oct 2023 #7
Is that a fact? I thought it was closer to 25% grey redqueen Oct 2023 #11
You may be right. former9thward Oct 2023 #12
How much water is wasted in swimming pools here in AZ? StarryNite Oct 2023 #43
WHAT!!!! inthewind21 Oct 2023 #45
None. former9thward Oct 2023 #46
Just play through you rugged country club individualists. ZonkerHarris Oct 2023 #8
Lolz Drum Oct 2023 #16
gosh oh no WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2023 #9
Let them do their thing. LiberalFighter Oct 2023 #10
Cry me a river drmeow Oct 2023 #13
Javelina stew or chorizo dalton99a Oct 2023 #20
Gosh , that's terrible . . . hatrack Oct 2023 #22
Played In Key West A Few Times ProfessorGAC Oct 2023 #23
Luke Air Force Base in Glendale has a nice course. ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2023 #24
Well Prairie Gates Oct 2023 #25
Play it as it lies. Rules of golf. Lochloosa Oct 2023 #26
They need to build a wall. Chainfire Oct 2023 #27
Thread winner Ferrets are Cool Oct 2023 #32
One of the javalina babies fell into marybourg Oct 2023 #28
I'm siding with the javelina. Fascinating creatures. (nt) Paladin Oct 2023 #30
Javelinas are a native species. StarryNite Oct 2023 #42

GoCubsGo

(34,914 posts)
1. Invaders?
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 09:45 PM
Oct 2023

Javelinas lived there long before that stupid game was even invented, let alone before that golf course was built. They're just reclaiming what is theirs.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
6. What about when bears or other animals attack humans in National Parks?
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 10:00 PM
Oct 2023

They were there long before humans and are just reclaiming what is theirs.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
29. What about bacteria? What about smallpox?
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:07 AM
Oct 2023

Not talking about attacks on humans; it's about wild hogs attacking dirt and grass. Most tourist attacks in national parks are caused by tourists ignoring warnings in order to get good "selfies".

It will be interesting to see if they can come up with a solution that doesn't involve making bacon.

GoCubsGo

(34,914 posts)
36. What about them?
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 02:04 PM
Oct 2023

Enter their territory at your own risk. It's not like the Park Service doesn't have signs all over the place warning of the consequences of encountering wildlife.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
37. That is not the policy of the U.S. Park District.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 04:37 PM
Oct 2023

And I am sure you know that. They show the bears no mercy.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
39. Oh, A typo cop!
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 05:04 PM
Oct 2023

Just what we like on DU! They always seem to show when they don't have a point to make.

TSExile

(3,363 posts)
2. Hmmmm...
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 09:53 PM
Oct 2023

Can anyone move them to Bedminster and really screw up someone's golf game? 😊😊😊😊😊

Attilatheblond

(8,877 posts)
15. They probably wouldn't do well there in winter
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 11:09 PM
Oct 2023

But maybe they could join the ranks of 'snow birds' who travel to AZ every winter.

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
33. They aren't feral hogs
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:44 AM
Oct 2023

Unlike the hogs, they are native to the area and have been there for millions of years.

hatrack

(64,887 posts)
34. No, I meant which animals should be introduced to Bedminster . . .
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:52 AM
Oct 2023

Javelina wouldn't likely thrive in New Jersey, but feral hogs would probably do just fine at Chez Orange.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
47. LOL
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 07:04 PM
Oct 2023

I just got a picture of the world's largest Putt-Putt course, with hundreds of yards of scenery in between.

Now where are the windmills and castle moats to shoot through?

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
7. None.
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 10:02 PM
Oct 2023

Non-potable water is used for golf courses in AZ. How much water is wasted in swimming pools in California?

redqueen

(115,186 posts)
11. Is that a fact? I thought it was closer to 25% grey
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 10:08 PM
Oct 2023

and read that they all go over their allotment every year, but when they deliver billions to the state nobody's much inclined to do anything about it.

Could be that something's changed in the past year?

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
12. You may be right.
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 10:15 PM
Oct 2023

I have a home in Maricopa county and I have always been told it was non-potable water. I don't golf or use swimming pools so I don 't have a dog in the fight. The latest thing (2014 study) I found said this:

PHOENIX – In parts of northern Arizona, golf courses over the past decade have stopped using drinking water to keep their greens vibrant. Instead, they use effluent or recycled water.

However, in Phoenix, less than a quarter of the water used on golf courses is reclaimed wastewater. According to a 2014 University of Arizona study, 75 percent of the water used to irrigate courses in the Prescott active management area is effluent, compared with only 21 percent in the Phoenix active management area.

One local official says it’s critical to rethink the use of water – especially given Arizona’s $3.9 billion dollar golf industry.

“It’s important just from a perspective of living in the desert that we really value our water, and we use it for the correct purposes,” said Phoenix Councilwoman Debra Stark, who has worked to get golf courses to stop using drinking water.

https://cronkitenews.azpbs.org/2018/05/31/drought-causes-moon-valley-lookout-mountain-golf-courses-stop-irrigating-with-drinking-water/#:~:text=PHOENIX%20%E2%80%93%20In%20parts%20of%20northern,golf%20courses%20is%20reclaimed%20wastewater.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
45. WHAT!!!!
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 06:05 PM
Oct 2023

There are swimming pools in Arizona? No Way!


I'm kidding. I know there are. Just getting a kick out of a retort about golf courses in Arizona vs. swimming pools in CA.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
46. None.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 06:31 PM
Oct 2023

People on golf courses and swimming pools enjoy recreation. I don't do either but I'm sure people would complain about what I do.

ProfessorGAC

(76,702 posts)
23. Played In Key West A Few Times
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 07:46 AM
Oct 2023

Once, I got to a hole & I see what I thought was a bunch of branches laying on the green.
I thought "That's odd for how diligent the crew is here."
Hit my shot & when it hit the green, the branches scattered into the bushes.
They were iguanas sunning themselves.
They stayed in the bushes while I was putting. I went to the next tee, and when I turned around they had all gone back on the green.
Just hanging out.
They didn't do damage though. Just catching some rays.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,897 posts)
24. Luke Air Force Base in Glendale has a nice course.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 08:03 AM
Oct 2023

Was there in January of 2020 for 10 days. My husband played a number of rounds. The sounds of jets flying overhead were loud however.

marybourg

(13,640 posts)
28. One of the javalina babies fell into
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:03 AM
Oct 2023

one of the in-ground trash cans we have in our community. The mother was shrieking and wouldn’t let anyone near enough to get the baby out. Fish & Game had to be called to dart the mother so the baby could be retrieved.

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