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babylonsister

(171,092 posts)
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 07:57 AM Oct 2023

Powell declares her plea deal was extorted.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/10/24/2201422/-Powell-declares-her-plea-deal-was-extorted

Powell declares her plea deal was extorted.
Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 7:34:23p EDT
shmuelman


It didn’t even take a week...

On her social media accounts, Powell has continued to push claims that the 2020 election was rigged and that prosecutors in Georgia who brought the criminal case against her are politically motivated. The newsletter published by her dark money group has shared articles arguing Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis "extorted" her guilty plea. www.businessinsider.com/...

When asked if anyone has forced, threatened or promised her anything in exchange for her guilty plea, Powell responded, "other than what is recited in the documents, no."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sidney-powell-pleads-guilty-georgia-2020-election-case-fulton-county/


She should have her plea withdrawn and she should stand trial. No judge should accept a plea that the defendant said was coerced or extorted. If she believes she is innocent of wrongdoing, a plea is not acceptable.

I have stated over and over that central figures of the criminal prosecution of the 2020 sedition cannot walk away without punishment. She has already avoided disbarment in Texas. She raised at least $14mm in donations. For her to plead guilty to misdemeanors and basically walk away with no sanction of prison time because, you know, she may (or may not) bring some evidence against Trump or someone else who will get a sweet plea deal, is not acceptable. She could have also gotten a year in prison as part of the plea to avoid the RICO prosecution. To me it is starting to appear that the lawyers are being extended professional courtesy, as Giuliani’s claim that everything he did was just part of his job as a lawyer soliciting for his client. And obviously, she sees the civil cases against her as bullshit, she can drag it out for years, and then drag out paying money for years more, all the while raising more money.
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Powell declares her plea deal was extorted. (Original Post) babylonsister Oct 2023 OP
So she's going to FA again...hope she FO soonest! Maeve Oct 2023 #1
Wow... 2naSalit Oct 2023 #2
I did. There's not a sincere bone in that woman's body. Attilatheblond Oct 2023 #57
or Jenna Ellis WhiteTara Oct 2023 #78
Oh, what a spoiled little tot Ellis is! Attilatheblond Oct 2023 #79
She is a piece of work for sure. WhiteTara Oct 2023 #84
I don't doubt the... 2naSalit Oct 2023 #85
yeah I am not at all surprised. barbtries Oct 2023 #93
lol "Extorted"? That Jack Smith is so Powerful! Cha Oct 2023 #104
Poor Sidney. Here's what likely happened. Eyeball_Kid Oct 2023 #111
Yeah, poor little poopoo Sudney Cha Oct 2023 #113
The Crack Hen is lawyer enough to know that what she says on the street... Hugin Oct 2023 #3
Agree Delphinus Oct 2023 #7
What I am hoping... Hugin Oct 2023 #14
She stopped crying very quickly after her statement I noticed Ohioboy Oct 2023 #28
Because the "crying" was FAKE. iluvtennis Oct 2023 #68
None of them have a scrap of evidence to support their lies Windicator Oct 2023 #76
not crimes of moral turpitude?! barbtries Oct 2023 #94
See what happens when they get no jail time? They think they did nothing wrong and keep repeating the behavior Walleye Oct 2023 #4
They even do it when they are going to jail. The_Casual_Observer Oct 2023 #105
She has every right to stand trial. stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #5
THIS RIGHT HERE! What in the complete hell. Put this dumb fuck in jail, throw away the key. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #50
This. If it was extorted, throw it out and let her be tried. nt redqueen Oct 2023 #54
Also, what good is her testimony if she is saying this? D23MIURG23 Oct 2023 #108
All of these people...hideous fucking assholes. Terrible humans. Defective meat bags. LuckyCharms Oct 2023 #6
Accurate and well put MustLoveBeagles Oct 2023 #89
Plea Deal Extortion?? no_hypocrisy Oct 2023 #8
yeah that is a thing dembotoz Oct 2023 #74
So she lied in court? LuckyCharms Oct 2023 #9
Lock her malaise Oct 2023 #10
Im pretty sure she has violated the terms of her plea agreement. bullimiami Oct 2023 #11
Word salad..... getagrip_already Oct 2023 #12
Yes, I'd like to know the specifics of what Quakerfriend Oct 2023 #41
See reply #43 for the details of "Defending the Republic", which she set up muriel_volestrangler Oct 2023 #62
Revoke the plea deal and put her on trial Takket Oct 2023 #13
I don't think that will be enough to pacify the MAGA loons, Sidney. tanyev Oct 2023 #15
she can believe what she wants...it's her testimony that matters... agingdem Oct 2023 #16
She obviously is getting death threats, gab13by13 Oct 2023 #17
And probably seeing donations to her are falling off. No more million$ for Kracken Krazy n/t Attilatheblond Oct 2023 #60
Her plea agreement requires her to testify. Is she claiming her testimony will be perjured? Jim__ Oct 2023 #18
Kind of a pickle she's putting herself in, isn't it? yardwork Oct 2023 #21
"She" has nothing to do with this. This is just someone else's opinion. Pure clickbait. PSPS Oct 2023 #22
No, the newsletter is basically her operation muriel_volestrangler Oct 2023 #43
Maybe it's "her operation" but it's not her words. It's an opinion piece written in the third person. PSPS Oct 2023 #55
Which she is repeating. muriel_volestrangler Oct 2023 #59
Except... no she isn't FBaggins Oct 2023 #63
"This was posted on Saturday but is worth repeating" - yes, she is repeating it muriel_volestrangler Oct 2023 #65
There is no "rush to make excuses for her." This is an OPINION piece WRITTEN IN THE THIRD PERSON. PSPS Oct 2023 #73
Even your excuses for her fail. Her plea was revealed last Thursday. muriel_volestrangler Oct 2023 #75
There is little doubt that she will lie about everything. The_Casual_Observer Oct 2023 #106
Oh, please. Dailykos? Really? PSPS Oct 2023 #19
Dailykos is just fine, gab13by13 Oct 2023 #33
Problem is, articles like this are posted by the "community" and not reviewed William Seger Oct 2023 #53
It's not that hard to go there and follow the links, however muriel_volestrangler Oct 2023 #64
It's not that hard to copy the source link, either William Seger Oct 2023 #71
Thoughtful DU posters save reader time/effort by taking a little time Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2023 #117
Well, yes, I posted the cut-off link back in reply #38 muriel_volestrangler Oct 2023 #118
"businessinsider.com" is a far right wing site gab13by13 Oct 2023 #20
The OP references CBS News brooklynite Oct 2023 #23
Business Insider is most definitely NOT a far right wing site marmar Oct 2023 #24
Agreed but it is an aggravator underpants Oct 2023 #27
It certainly doesn't vet its sources. gab13by13 Oct 2023 #35
I'd say they editorialize underpants Oct 2023 #47
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/business-insider/ RSherman Oct 2023 #31
I guess it depends upon what someone considers left or right. gab13by13 Oct 2023 #37
I used to go to Business Insider almost daily. Stopped when they began requiring KPN Oct 2023 #61
An issue is news wrting vs editorial writing. For example WSJ Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2023 #119
The judge needs to call her in to clarify. mn9driver Oct 2023 #25
I agree Sanity Claws Oct 2023 #29
One side of mouth to grift the base and the other to plead in court. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2023 #26
She willingly pleads guilty... Historic NY Oct 2023 #30
Exactly... if she truly is disavowing her testimony and plea. liberalla Oct 2023 #70
Dark Money Group Layzeebeaver Oct 2023 #32
That was a very interesting read... BigOleDummy Oct 2023 #91
She needs to fight the plea deal with all the money she has raised. Autumn Oct 2023 #34
Needs a better source. bigmonk Oct 2023 #36
Daily kos is just fine, gab13by13 Oct 2023 #39
You could read the newsletter. muriel_volestrangler Oct 2023 #49
A link for the first part of the excerpt (it's cut off in the OP) muriel_volestrangler Oct 2023 #38
Aren't they always "extorted?" Wounded Bear Oct 2023 #40
If you look at how they define "exorted", then, yes muriel_volestrangler Oct 2023 #46
Not going into detail but I took a plea once and my lawyer told me that if I sounded like I didn't believe I was guilty Maraya1969 Oct 2023 #42
Penalties on some offenses are such that often a defendant will take a plea to mitigate the real chance of prison. For Pepsidog Oct 2023 #66
Because of COURSE she does... LOL... n/t TygrBright Oct 2023 #44
DK click bait Chakaconcarne Oct 2023 #45
I'm afraid these plea deals for testimony will Emile Oct 2023 #48
why isn't an attempted coup grounds for auto-disbarment? pansypoo53219 Oct 2023 #51
She's probably trying to keep the magaloons from killing her. Ocelot II Oct 2023 #52
They have sown the wind redqueen Oct 2023 #56
Indeed. If you throw in with the kind of people who do insurrections Ocelot II Oct 2023 #58
This is what I was thinking Redleg Oct 2023 #80
So I did not see her plea hearing but AkFemDem Oct 2023 #67
I did not see hers either but I watched Cheeseburger's and the same judge carefully and repeatedly Wonder Why Oct 2023 #69
Take the plea deal or face a felony conviction and face prison time. Eyeball_Kid Oct 2023 #72
Lock her up, she was not to communicate with Bluethroughu Oct 2023 #77
Well, then just say no to the plea--go to trial and hopefully to jail when you are found GUILTY riversedge Oct 2023 #81
Why did she agree to the deal ? She signed the deal. republianmushroom Oct 2023 #82
Guess that nasty thing is back to eating a bag of dicks every day- Snooper9 Oct 2023 #83
"And by 'extortion', I mean...." BobTheSubgenius Oct 2023 #86
So much for that slap on the wrist Zambero Oct 2023 #87
I think she is trying to protect herself against MAGA attack and just hung herself instead. nt ShazamIam Oct 2023 #88
Revoke the plea deal MustLoveBeagles Oct 2023 #90
As noted, what she says on the street doesn't have to jive... Kaleva Oct 2023 #95
so go to trial. barbtries Oct 2023 #92
Willis should tell moniss Oct 2023 #96
I thought there was a gag order on her as part of her Ilsa Oct 2023 #97
Kind of like the mob days, it does not take long for a witness to have a change of heart about testifying LiberalArkie Oct 2023 #98
So try her then swong19104 Oct 2023 #99
Oh Brother NowISeetheLight Oct 2023 #100
It could be she flipped back because of death threats mucifer Oct 2023 #101
Well, they all are, in one way or another Warpy Oct 2023 #102
Powell is scared SHITLESS of the Cult. Cha Oct 2023 #103
Doesn't "extorted" mean forgotmylogin Oct 2023 #107
Lying under oath is still a bad thing, right? Iggo Oct 2023 #109
Have her say that.... Quanto Magnus Oct 2023 #110
She probably is betting on the new speaker PlutosHeart Oct 2023 #112
Okay she's dumber than I thought ecstatic Oct 2023 #114
I wish these people would F off, F all the way off, and when they get there... SKKY Oct 2023 #115
... Everyone's beneath the trees, feeding pigeons on a limb, struggle4progress Oct 2023 #116

Attilatheblond

(2,212 posts)
57. I did. There's not a sincere bone in that woman's body.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:37 AM
Oct 2023

It is pure arrogance that holds her up. She'll sell any bag of crap she thinks will pay for her, one way or another.

Attilatheblond

(2,212 posts)
79. Oh, what a spoiled little tot Ellis is!
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 12:06 PM
Oct 2023

'Boo hoo, I got held accountable for trying to overthrow the will of American voters. Boo hoo. Don't they know I'm special so I can do any ol thing...'

She gives women a bad name.

WhiteTara

(29,722 posts)
84. She is a piece of work for sure.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 12:29 PM
Oct 2023

she is sickening and thinks she's so smart and special...she was at the table with the big boys and they even let her say some shit.

2naSalit

(86,794 posts)
85. I don't doubt the...
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 12:30 PM
Oct 2023

Kind of character she has, I just figured she'd have the sense to at least wait until she was out of danger. But then, on top of her ego, she's truly a nutcase so anticipating that she might have sense was out of line on my part.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
111. Poor Sidney. Here's what likely happened.
Thu Oct 26, 2023, 12:03 AM
Oct 2023

Prosecutor tells it like it is: You can do a plea deal, or you go to jail on a guilty conviction because I've got the goods on you.
All of it's true. It's reality. But Sidney views it as bullying, and that turns into extortion. Sidney is too easy to figure out. But this is great. Some guy in Maine kills nearly two dozen people and injures dozens, and Sidney Powell is moaning that she's being bullied by a special prosecutor.

Cha

(297,691 posts)
113. Yeah, poor little poopoo Sudney
Thu Oct 26, 2023, 12:22 AM
Oct 2023

was given a choice.. she chose to Not go down for the Traitor.

The magats always have a way to make themselves the Eternal Victim of thei own illegal actions.

Free will, syd.

Hugin

(33,207 posts)
3. The Crack Hen is lawyer enough to know that what she says on the street...
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 08:05 AM
Oct 2023

And what she says in court are two separate things. Unfortunately, a judge only hears what is said in court. Unless, violations are brought up by the Prosecution and it is a process.

It’s very apparent that none of the three who have struck plea deals so far have any remorse for their participation in this crime.

Delphinus

(11,840 posts)
7. Agree
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 08:13 AM
Oct 2023

so VERY much that NONE of them have shown ANY remorse. I don't give a shit that Ellis cried in court yesterday - the only thing she is sorry for is getting caught.

And piss on ALL of them who want it in the written records that these were not crimes of MORAL TURPITUDE.

(Sorry for my language but this makes me quite mad.)

Hugin

(33,207 posts)
14. What I am hoping...
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 08:27 AM
Oct 2023

Is that the prosecutors are building a case for the big event against the core criminals which relies on very specific testimony from this flotsam.

I really don’t like the concept of plea deals. But, when you are swimming in an ocean of liars, you have to get the truth out of them somehow.

Windicator

(157 posts)
76. None of them have a scrap of evidence to support their lies
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:41 AM
Oct 2023

But they are repubes, and so they keep on lying, lying, lying.

Sick.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
94. not crimes of moral turpitude?!
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 02:26 PM
Oct 2023

of course they are. i wonder what they would consider to be a crime of moral turpitude.

ugh. that reminded me of condoleeza rice acting all righteous and saying "don't you impugn my integrity" - your what? how can i impugn what you don't even have?

Walleye

(31,056 posts)
4. See what happens when they get no jail time? They think they did nothing wrong and keep repeating the behavior
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 08:06 AM
Oct 2023

She needs to sit in a small cell for at least 30 days and think about what she’s done. No social media

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
105. They even do it when they are going to jail.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 07:41 PM
Oct 2023

These are irredeemable wise asses. One would have to be a wise ass to find themselves in this situation.

D23MIURG23

(2,850 posts)
108. Also, what good is her testimony if she is saying this?
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:26 PM
Oct 2023

She attested IN COURT that her plea was not coerced. Was that perjury then?

You'd think this would violate the terms of the plea agreement at very least.

no_hypocrisy

(46,191 posts)
8. Plea Deal Extortion??
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 08:15 AM
Oct 2023

No effin' way.

Nobody forces you to accept an offer of an alternative plea. You even put it on the record that it was a voluntary acceptance.

There is no such thing as a metaphorical/figurative extortion.

If you accept, you get a better deal than if you were convicted, possibly being given the full penalties of your conviction(s).

If you decline, it's really a status quo: You have your due process rights preserved in a right to trial with all the protections. You haven't lost anything.

And as an attorney, she knows better than to say smack about her plea deal.

dembotoz

(16,835 posts)
74. yeah that is a thing
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:32 AM
Oct 2023

happened to a friend who just got off paper.
district attorney has all kinds of resources. defendant has maybe public defender?
small town courts side with the prosecution like always.......
matlock was just a fantasy tv show.......

The smart move is to take the plea deal innocent or not....The DA is gonna go for your throat.
Small pain vs big pain.

the justice system is a joke

bullimiami

(13,104 posts)
11. Im pretty sure she has violated the terms of her plea agreement.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 08:22 AM
Oct 2023

She is guilty by plea. That is a done deal.
She should be brought back to court and given the consequences of the violation.
Monetary or jail time. This is for the DA to ask and the judge to administer.

getagrip_already

(14,838 posts)
12. Word salad.....
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 08:24 AM
Oct 2023

From all that nonsensical verbiage, it's hard to determine what content she controls and what is merely in her despicable orbit.

Her dark money group? Who are they? What control does she have? Her social media accounts? What did she say and when?

I'm not saying she isn't a slippery lying lizard, just that there is so little specific content in the op it is hard to tell what you are saying.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,361 posts)
62. See reply #43 for the details of "Defending the Republic", which she set up
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:46 AM
Oct 2023

and a link to its newsletter, which has the "extorted" claim (it's repeating what another far right outlet said).

tanyev

(42,618 posts)
15. I don't think that will be enough to pacify the MAGA loons, Sidney.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 08:28 AM
Oct 2023

If you're not devoted enough to go to jail for their lord and savior Donald Trump, then they will be done with you.

agingdem

(7,859 posts)
16. she can believe what she wants...it's her testimony that matters...
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 08:30 AM
Oct 2023

Last edited Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:44 AM - Edit history (1)

if she tells the truth every time she is asked to testify, the plea deal stays in place (and you can bet her testimony has been parsed, investigated, and corroborated ten different ways)... if she lies, the plea deal is off...as for "coercion", I suspect when her "I have a 1st amendment right to vomit conspiracy bullshit and steal voter data" appeal was denied, the prospect of years of jail time and hefty lawyers fees was all the "coercion" she needed to flip...

gab13by13

(21,405 posts)
17. She obviously is getting death threats,
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 08:33 AM
Oct 2023

she is looking for self-preservation, she doesn't want to get Epsteined.

People fear Trump, that's why they don't flip on him.

Everyone needs to clam down, Fani Willis is running a pyramid strategy that actually works. There is a delay for the next trial, when it gets closer there will be more flippers.

Trump would love for Fani to revoke the Kraken plea deal, he wants people to go to jail for him, plus Fani's trials are on schedule to happen pre-election.

Fani is good at RICO prosecutions, that's why Georgia Magats will try to remove her from office.

I trust in Fani.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,361 posts)
43. No, the newsletter is basically her operation
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:47 AM
Oct 2023

Here: https://defendingtherepublic.substack.com/p/thank-you-for-your-continuing-support

4- This was posted on Saturday but is worth repeating

Margot Cleveland at The Federalist

Sidney Powell's Plea Proves Fulton County DA Went Nuclear To Get Trump

QUOTE: The bottom line is this: Willis basically extorted a guilty plea from Powell by charging her with seven serious felonies, including a RICO conspiracy count, two counts of conspiracy to commit election fraud, and one count each of conspiracy to commit computer theft, conspiracy to commit computer trespass, conspiracy to commit computer invasion of privacy, and conspiracy to defraud the state.
...
Follow Our Progress on Social Media:

Sidney on Twitter - @SidneyPowell1

DefendingTheRepublic.org

SidneyPowell on GETTR

Sidney on Telegram

"Our" means "Sidney and one more site". The hilarious thing is the "exortion" consists of "charges". A lawyer is repeating that if someone agrees to a plea deal, they have been "extorted", because otherwise they'd have to fight charges in court.

More on "Defending the Republic":

Powell’s troubles mounted later in 2021, when the U.S. attorney’s office for the District of Columbia sought communications and other records related to fundraising and accounting by a number of groups started by Powell, including Defending the Republic, a Texas-based organization claiming 501(c) 4 nonprofit status, and a PAC by the same name, according to documents reviewed by The Washington Post.

An attorney for Powell said at the time that, “We have always known the more effective we are, the more the false attacks will intensify. Defending the Republic has and will continue to fight for #WeThePeople who make this country work.”
...
Powell is now limited in what she can say publicly about the Georgia case. But her nonprofit, Defending the Republic, asked followers for forbearance in a Friday newsletter distributed via the Substack platform: “We at Defending the Republic appreciate your patience, support, and understanding of Sidney’s decision regarding the Georgia case.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/10/21/sidney-powell-trump-georgia-election-case/

muriel_volestrangler

(101,361 posts)
59. Which she is repeating.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:42 AM
Oct 2023

I cannot fathom why some people here, like you, are looking for excuses for her. What gives?

FBaggins

(26,760 posts)
63. Except... no she isn't
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:47 AM
Oct 2023

The only statement attributed to her is the standard form for that interaction with a judge.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,361 posts)
65. "This was posted on Saturday but is worth repeating" - yes, she is repeating it
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:52 AM
Oct 2023

It's actually there. Look, here's the first time she reposted it - from Saturday:

1- Please read this entire piece.

Margot Cleveland at The Federalist

Sidney Powell's Plea Proves Fulton County DA Went Nuclear To Get Trump

QUOTE: The bottom line is this: Willis basically extorted a guilty plea from Powell by charging her with seven serious felonies, including a RICO conspiracy count, two counts of conspiracy to commit election fraud, and one count each of conspiracy to commit computer theft, conspiracy to commit computer trespass, conspiracy to commit computer invasion of privacy, and conspiracy to defraud the state.

https://defendingtherepublic.substack.com/p/good-news-saturday-102123

Why the rush to make excuses for her? This is Sidney Powell we're talking about.

PSPS

(13,614 posts)
73. There is no "rush to make excuses for her." This is an OPINION piece WRITTEN IN THE THIRD PERSON.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:24 AM
Oct 2023

And, even your quote is "from Saturday," which is three days before her plea. So this is nothing but the usual Dailykos forum mishmash intended to get clicks and rile people up. Geesh!

muriel_volestrangler

(101,361 posts)
75. Even your excuses for her fail. Her plea was revealed last Thursday.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:33 AM
Oct 2023
Sidney Powell pleads guilty over efforts to overturn Trump’s loss in Georgia and agrees to cooperate

BY KATE BRUMBACK
Updated 11:10 PM GMT+1, October 19, 2023
Share
ATLANTA (AP) — Lawyer Sidney Powell pleaded guilty to reduced charges Thursday over efforts to overturn Donald Trump’s loss in the 2020 election in Georgia, becoming the second defendant in the sprawling case to reach a deal with prosecutors.

Powell, who was charged alongside Trump and 17 others with violating the state’s anti-racketeering law, entered the plea just a day before jury selection was set to start in her trial. She pleaded guilty to six misdemeanors accusing her of conspiring to intentionally interfere with the performance of election duties.

https://apnews.com/article/sidney-powell-plea-deal-georgia-election-indictment-ec7dc601ad78d756643aa2544028e9f5

Yes, someone else wrote an opinion piece, which Powell has repeated - twice. In case everyone didn't get the message that she agrees with it. With the argument in bold and everything.

I don't get why a DUer is so desperate to favour Sidney Powell over Daily Kos, when Daily Kos is showing what she's saying. Did they ban you or something?

PSPS

(13,614 posts)
19. Oh, please. Dailykos? Really?
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 08:44 AM
Oct 2023
"The newsletter published by her dark money group has shared articles arguing..."


"The newsletter"
"dark money group"

This hardly constitutes her own utterance. This is someone else's opinion. But. then, Dailykos needs them clicks!!11!!

gab13by13

(21,405 posts)
33. Dailykos is just fine,
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:32 AM
Oct 2023

I was a subscriber for several years. It may be too far left for some. 😊

William Seger

(10,779 posts)
53. Problem is, articles like this are posted by the "community" and not reviewed
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:32 AM
Oct 2023

And I do wish that when a DK article is just referencing and paraphrasing another article, people would please post a link to the source, not DK.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,361 posts)
64. It's not that hard to go there and follow the links, however
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:48 AM
Oct 2023

or to Google a phrase from the excerpt to find the original.

William Seger

(10,779 posts)
71. It's not that hard to copy the source link, either
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:17 AM
Oct 2023

... and I assume that DUers are checking the sources for a story like this.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,043 posts)
117. Thoughtful DU posters save reader time/effort by taking a little time
Thu Oct 26, 2023, 05:59 AM
Oct 2023

... to post links and carefully selected key excerpts.

One minute (60 seconds) taken by a poster frequently saves 20 seconds effort by a couple hundred readers, maybe over a thousand.

20 x 200 = 4000 seconds = over one hour

Giving one minute of poster's time saves DU members an hour. One minute for an hour is a good tradeoff, such an easy thing to do, giving back to DU.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,361 posts)
118. Well, yes, I posted the cut-off link back in reply #38
Thu Oct 26, 2023, 06:21 AM
Oct 2023

It takes no more time to post a corrected link than to post saying "the link inside the DK post wasn't given properly".

gab13by13

(21,405 posts)
20. "businessinsider.com" is a far right wing site
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 08:45 AM
Oct 2023

I do not click on right wing sites, it is much better for my health.

I am sure that the Kraken plea deal was recorded, that is what will be played in court.

gab13by13

(21,405 posts)
35. It certainly doesn't vet its sources.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:34 AM
Oct 2023

I have yet to see an article that I agree with. I looked on my computer home page and found a recent BI article that bashes Chuck Schumer's bill to reduce fees for swiping credit cards.

gab13by13

(21,405 posts)
37. I guess it depends upon what someone considers left or right.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:38 AM
Oct 2023

CNN is certainly right wing. Show me an article from businessinsider that is leftist.

KPN

(15,650 posts)
61. I used to go to Business Insider almost daily. Stopped when they began requiring
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:45 AM
Oct 2023

subscription for about half of their articles. They definitely lean left from my experience. Not far left, but left of center for sure. That's my opinion based on when I visited their site frequently -- which has been a couple years now. I do still click on links to their site when I see them elsewhere -- and my opinion from those articles hasn't changed.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,043 posts)
119. An issue is news wrting vs editorial writing. For example WSJ
Thu Oct 26, 2023, 06:49 AM
Oct 2023

Wall Street Journal reporting seems to be kind of neutral and factual.

WSJ editorial board is decidedly right wing and wrong.



Another issue is editorial/production allocation of time/space. Reporting might be neutral but if stories are presented on particular topics more so than others, the net effect can be somewhat biased. For example if more stories appear about Biden gaffes than about tRump brain fades, word salad, and other signs of senility, then the net effect can be anti-Biden / pro-tRump even while each report can be neutral.

Similarly, choice of guests is important.

Sanity Claws

(21,852 posts)
29. I agree
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:16 AM
Oct 2023

She is on probation and clearly still under the court's jurisdiction. No way should she be allowed to do this and taint all of the pleas bargains, as well as her own.

Historic NY

(37,453 posts)
30. She willingly pleads guilty...
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:18 AM
Oct 2023

....she may have just fucked around now and will find herself deeper in the find out consequences of these actions she is now spreading.

liberalla

(9,262 posts)
70. Exactly... if she truly is disavowing her testimony and plea.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:16 AM
Oct 2023

If she is "taking it back", then she should be charged with the felonies she has committed, and kiss the misdemeanors goodbye.

FAFO, bitch!

BigOleDummy

(2,272 posts)
91. That was a very interesting read...
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 01:50 PM
Oct 2023

... Thank you for posting it. I've said it before and will undoubtedly say it again "Citizens United" was one of the most catastrophic rulings to ever come down from the S.C. Look at the havoc its caused already and be afraid of where it leads. Imh of course.

bigmonk

(54 posts)
36. Needs a better source.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:34 AM
Oct 2023

Before this has any creditability, it needs a better source. The DailyKos is cool but it's not a major news organization. Wait before believing this.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,361 posts)
49. You could read the newsletter.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:58 AM
Oct 2023

There's a link in reply #43.

and #38 has a link to the Insider article, that DK is quoting.

It's not that hard to find this stuff with Google. We don't have to "wait".

muriel_volestrangler

(101,361 posts)
46. If you look at how they define "exorted", then, yes
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:55 AM
Oct 2023
The bottom line is this: Willis basically extorted a guilty plea from Powell by charging her with seven serious felonies, including a RICO conspiracy count, two counts of conspiracy to commit election fraud, and one count each of conspiracy to commit computer theft, conspiracy to commit computer trespass, conspiracy to commit computer invasion of privacy, and conspiracy to defraud the state.

They go on to slag off the inhabitants of Fulton County as too Democratic to be trusted in a jury, and say that Powell couldn't risk losing her law license (hah! She's got no reputation left any more, and any self-respecting bar will disqualify her anyway), so she had been "extorted" into agreeing the deal. It's a joke, but Republican lawyers don't have to worry about that, these days - their donors will pay for any old shit.

Maraya1969

(22,498 posts)
42. Not going into detail but I took a plea once and my lawyer told me that if I sounded like I didn't believe I was guilty
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:44 AM
Oct 2023

the judge could force me to go to trial. I actually didn't think I was guilty but I told the judge I was.

And this woman is a lawyer???? She must have some sort of problem with her brain.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
66. Penalties on some offenses are such that often a defendant will take a plea to mitigate the real chance of prison. For
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:56 AM
Oct 2023

example, about the time the pandemic started I was hired to represent a man charged with aggravate sexual assault. He was charged with having sex with a 13 yo girl of a family friend he lived with. It was by no means and open and shut case, my client had several defenses and the victim’s credibility was questionably. I think he could have won the case but if he didn’t and the jury found he guilty he would serve 25 years in prison without parole.

Because the pandemic stopped jury trials for 2 years he spent 2 years in the county jail. When trials resumed he was offered 5 years flat which means he would be immediately eligible for parole. He took that deal because if he didn’t and lost at trial he would spend the rest of his life in prison. Did he really have a choice? He said all the right words during his plea elocution and admitted he had sex with the minor. I’m not so sure he was guilty but the downside to jury was just way to massive to take the risk.

Criminal defendants often take a plea deal especially one like Powell’s to avoid exposure to prison. I think she took a first offender program that already had an alternative sentence if she violated her plea deal. As I recall, I wasn’t impressed by the penalties she would face if she did violate her agreement.

Emile

(22,925 posts)
48. I'm afraid these plea deals for testimony will
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:58 AM
Oct 2023

allow them to go unpunished and Trump will still walk away free. My God I hope I'm wrong.

Ocelot II

(115,858 posts)
52. She's probably trying to keep the magaloons from killing her.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:31 AM
Oct 2023

Betcha kroner to kruggerrands she and the other flippers are getting death threats by the dozen.

Ocelot II

(115,858 posts)
58. Indeed. If you throw in with the kind of people who do insurrections
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:40 AM
Oct 2023

and try to hang vice presidents, don't be surprised when they turn on you, too.

AkFemDem

(1,836 posts)
67. So I did not see her plea hearing but
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:57 AM
Oct 2023

I watched the full Jenna Ellis one yesterday (not just the crying snippet everyone keeps posting) and one thing that stood out was part of the plea instructions (and she had to agree affirmatively to each point) was that she would not discuss the case at all in the media, on social media, or with any other co-defendants. I wonder if Powell had similar limitations imposed?

Wonder Why

(3,252 posts)
69. I did not see hers either but I watched Cheeseburger's and the same judge carefully and repeatedly
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:15 AM
Oct 2023

asked him questions on every aspect of his plea, from whether he had consulted his lawyers to whether he was on any medications that would affect his thinking. It was question after question to be sure that he was being treated fairly and he was sure he wanted to plea guilty as well as to be sure he understood and freely accepted the consequences.
Instead of letting Powell withdraw the plea, she should be brought back to court and be required to testify under oath whether her plea was extorted. If she says it was, then she should be charged with felony purgery for lying to the judge under oath. If she says that she was not, she should be warned that continuing to make those claims will result in a Contempt and possible jail time.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
72. Take the plea deal or face a felony conviction and face prison time.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:23 AM
Oct 2023

But play the victim once you get let off the hook?

Willis should be calling off the deal and give her a number for a jail cell. Powell wants it both ways. NO DEAL.

Bluethroughu

(5,201 posts)
77. Lock her up, she was not to communicate with
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:45 AM
Oct 2023

Anyone about this trial, and the judge also stated they could modify the plea if they wanted.

She busted. Bye bye.

republianmushroom

(13,687 posts)
82. Why did she agree to the deal ? She signed the deal.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 12:18 PM
Oct 2023

Don't like it void the deal and go to trial. Very simple.
But she won't because she is guilty and would go to prison.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,567 posts)
86. "And by 'extortion', I mean...."
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 12:33 PM
Oct 2023

"...participating in the most common practice that takes place multiple times daily, and keeps the justice system from grinding to a halt under the sheer weight of taking every case to trial."

Cooperate, or come out of prison stooped over and pushing a walker. You are tiny potatoes, smalls. Be grateful, STFU and go away. Far away.

Zambero

(8,968 posts)
87. So much for that slap on the wrist
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 01:01 PM
Oct 2023

Powell apparently wishes to restore her whacko reputation and go through with a trial.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,636 posts)
90. Revoke the plea deal
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 01:25 PM
Oct 2023

Haul her ass back in court. Throw said ass in jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect $200.

moniss

(4,274 posts)
96. Willis should tell
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 02:53 PM
Oct 2023

Powell's attorney that since Sydney is so unhappy with her situation the plea agreement is canceled and she is now back in line for trial on felony charges in the RICO case. I think it would be wise anyway because I think Powell was going to try to pull a Manafort so to speak as far as cooperation. Also it would be interesting to know if someone "visited" her or had a discussion about being "loyal" and how important that is to a certain someone with incredibly small hands.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
97. I thought there was a gag order on her as part of her
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 03:11 PM
Oct 2023

please deal.

Maybe she's saying this so the MAGAts won't torture and kill her.

swong19104

(307 posts)
99. So try her then
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 04:26 PM
Oct 2023

And when found guilty, apply the strongest, harshest penalty available. And add some more to that for reneging on a plea deal.

NowISeetheLight

(3,943 posts)
100. Oh Brother
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 05:40 PM
Oct 2023

Strange verbiage. " Other than what was recited...". It's very vague. Do you mean everything you said was extorted? What document? Lawyer mumbo-jumbo. She can't just give a clear answer to anything. She has to keep the grift train rolling. Those losers who believe her wouldn't pay to see her like Mike Flynn and Stone at their radical rallies if she wasn't a "Victim of the deep state conspiracy" (how I imagine she'll play this).

mucifer

(23,569 posts)
101. It could be she flipped back because of death threats
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 06:06 PM
Oct 2023

No I don’t feel sorry for her. Just saying it could be why and I don’t really care.

Warpy

(111,351 posts)
102. Well, they all are, in one way or another
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 06:21 PM
Oct 2023

"Take this deal and you'll be out of prison faster" is the usual plea bargain.

In her case, it was to give testimony in exchange for avoiding prosecution, altogether. Guess Fat Donny called her up and cussed her out, threatened her dog, whatever, then told the press he had no idea who she was, never met her.

Guess she just can't stand not being in that orange glow of what is probably mutual narcissism.

forgotmylogin

(7,531 posts)
107. Doesn't "extorted" mean
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:02 PM
Oct 2023

“Offered an option to avoid potential harm by the person who can cause that harm”? When you say extortion people think of the “ nice place you got here, would be a shame, if something happened to it” type of thing the mob does. They can try to rewrite it as Jack Smith was saying.” nice freedom you’re enjoying Sidney Powell. It would be a shame if you didn’t take this plea deal, and we had to put you on trial and potentially in jail…”

When law enforcement does it it’s called strong-arming, but she didn’t have to take the deal if she didn’t want to. This is most likely just showing that side of her to her donors so the money doesn’t cut off.

Quanto Magnus

(899 posts)
110. Have her say that....
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:29 PM
Oct 2023

in front of the Judge.

Any 'interview/statement/random blather' outside of the court should be immediately suspect.

ecstatic

(32,731 posts)
114. Okay she's dumber than I thought
Thu Oct 26, 2023, 12:26 AM
Oct 2023

Throw the fucking book at her lying ass. I reject her fake ass apology and it's time for her to do some actual time behind bars.

SKKY

(11,822 posts)
115. I wish these people would F off, F all the way off, and when they get there...
Thu Oct 26, 2023, 12:29 AM
Oct 2023

...stay F'd off. I am literally so sick and tired of this whole thing. No plea deals, no agreements, nothing. Have a trial and take your chances. Seriously though, this is exhausting.

struggle4progress

(118,350 posts)
116. ... Everyone's beneath the trees, feeding pigeons on a limb,
Thu Oct 26, 2023, 12:48 AM
Oct 2023

but when Quinn the Eskimo gets here, all the pigeons gonna run to him ...

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