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About that generational divide (Original Post) AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 OP
The older you are the more you know about the WWII holocaust, and history in general NoRethugFriends Oct 2023 #1
Also old enough to remember Arafat, the hijackings, night club bombings, Munich hostages.... AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #5
Is the argument that 73% of young adults can't read? ramen Oct 2023 #7
Red Herring. Try reading some of the studies that show how little young people know about history NoRethugFriends Oct 2023 #8
Sure, any particular studies in mind that you want to link to? ramen Oct 2023 #9
below is one NoRethugFriends Oct 2023 #16
That is certainly grim. The people in that study are now in their forties. ramen Oct 2023 #18
So the 18-34 who would be doing the actual fighting are least for Srkdqltr Oct 2023 #2
The NULL HYPOTHESIS has been confirmed (nt) stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #10
I have no clue what you mean. Srkdqltr Oct 2023 #12
I thought I was saying the same thing as you. stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #13
Thank you. Made sense to me. This isn't really new. Srkdqltr Oct 2023 #14
Who fights in these wars? Renew Deal Oct 2023 #3
I can imagine the manner in which that is asked (including the questions before) hlthe2b Oct 2023 #4
And this will be an important election issue. David__77 Oct 2023 #6
You got that right about an important election issue. Brenda Oct 2023 #11
And I haven't heard anyone ask "how are you going to pay for it?" David__77 Oct 2023 #17
At least I'll be on the right side of history with that poll. NT William769 Oct 2023 #15

NoRethugFriends

(3,762 posts)
1. The older you are the more you know about the WWII holocaust, and history in general
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:37 AM
Oct 2023

This is not giving my personal opinion on whether or not Israel's response is correct.

ramen

(862 posts)
7. Is the argument that 73% of young adults can't read?
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 12:24 PM
Oct 2023

I have read about and studied events, conflicts, movements, and people prior to my birth year, including WWII, which was long before my time. I doubt I'm alone in that: I'm not in that youngest polled demographic but I think the idea that young adults are unable to investigate events of the past is a stretch. In my experience, that generation seems to really care about how we got here and how to navigate the burned-out world we are all eventually leaving them.

Additionally, if saying that someone in their 80s might not be in the same condition they were when they were in their 40s is considered ageist on this board, shouldn't the argument that only the very oldest people polled can possibly understand what is happening in Israel and Gaza be considered incredibly ageist?

NoRethugFriends

(3,762 posts)
8. Red Herring. Try reading some of the studies that show how little young people know about history
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 01:04 PM
Oct 2023

They are capable of reading about it. That doesn't mean they do, or that they were taught

ramen

(862 posts)
9. Sure, any particular studies in mind that you want to link to?
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 01:39 PM
Oct 2023

I'd be interested to see one that shows the historical knowledge and perspective of that oldest demographic contrasted with that youngest one, in particular. I can say for certain there are both young and old people with a remarkably poor grasp of history but I don't have data on how they statistically compare.

NoRethugFriends

(3,762 posts)
16. below is one
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 03:46 PM
Oct 2023

A little googling will find you tons of information on the subject.

They can't dentify a country associated with Hitler or Churchill

https://news.gallup.com/poll/5785/teens-knowledge-world-history-slipping.aspx

ramen

(862 posts)
18. That is certainly grim. The people in that study are now in their forties.
Thu Oct 26, 2023, 08:02 AM
Oct 2023

I'm not sure how to evaluate Gen Z from that but it's surely not good news in any event.

Srkdqltr

(9,837 posts)
2. So the 18-34 who would be doing the actual fighting are least for
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:38 AM
Oct 2023

The Military action. Over 65 want war?

 
13. I thought I was saying the same thing as you.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 02:17 PM
Oct 2023

The age breakdown is hardly surprising. Had it been upside-down, then I would be surprised.

hlthe2b

(114,227 posts)
4. I can imagine the manner in which that is asked (including the questions before)
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:43 AM
Oct 2023

would have an impact on how one interprets the question--including by age group.

Polling on all issues related to ME conflict right now has to be very carefully conducted. I think we've seen how easily words, phrases, and intent/meaning can be misconstrued in the past couple of weeks even here.

David__77

(24,840 posts)
6. And this will be an important election issue.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:33 AM
Oct 2023

The US is not just a spectator. Israel will handle its affairs - the US has a choice as to next steps.

Brenda

(2,078 posts)
11. You got that right about an important election issue.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 02:08 PM
Oct 2023

One year out and the US is now engaged in two wars that do not involve Americans or American soil yet are costing US taxpayers billions upon billions of dollars.

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