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eShirl

(20,259 posts)
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 08:35 PM Oct 2023

MASS SHOOTING active shooter Lewiston maine

Last edited Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:27 PM - Edit history (2)



**UPDATE from WMTW: at least 10 dead, dozens injured
update CNN: 16 dead, 50-60 injured
update FOX: 22 dead
**

multiple locations subject still at large

WMTW police confirm active shooter situation https://www.wmtw.com/article/active-shooter-lewiston-maine-2-scenes-shelter/45646010

WABI https://www.wabi.tv/2023/10/25/active-situation-lewiston-being-investigated-by-troopers-local-police/
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MASS SHOOTING active shooter Lewiston maine (Original Post) eShirl Oct 2023 OP
MAGA Eliot Rosewater Oct 2023 #1
In Maine? Maybe but they are pretty blue up there. jimfields33 Oct 2023 #2
No, they're not. brooklynite Oct 2023 #18
Yeah but shooters are mostly MAGAts, don't you agree? Kingofalldems Oct 2023 #19
1) Not necessarily. 2) there are certainly right-wing types in rural Maine. brooklynite Oct 2023 #22
There are plenty of MAGAT types PatSeg Oct 2023 #48
You have stats to prove that? WarGamer Oct 2023 #98
This page might help you. WarGamer Oct 2023 #104
Active shooters are mostly MAGATS. live love laugh Oct 2023 #109
One thing is for sure, shooters are almost NEVER liberals...maybe one or two here Eliot Rosewater Oct 2023 #122
Um, this is where Tucker lives and spends his summers. FailureToCommunicate Oct 2023 #55
Not in rural Maine. nt Quixote1818 Oct 2023 #77
Yes, Susan Collins, Paul LePage... totally blue tenderfoot Oct 2023 #99
It only takes 1. meadowlander Oct 2023 #108
Oops--looks like he is a MAGAT. Kingofalldems Oct 2023 #117
A wild guess or some hint that's it? WarGamer Oct 2023 #12
MAGA Kingofalldems Oct 2023 #118
good guess... who's going to win the World Series? WarGamer Oct 2023 #119
MAGA types tend to target some group. 50-60 shot in two locations sounds more random. brooklynite Oct 2023 #32
Bowlers. SergeStorms Oct 2023 #95
It was Family Bowling Night as stated on CNN debm55 Oct 2023 #103
Family bowling night. SergeStorms Oct 2023 #107
I was right...wasnt a hard prediction to make. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2023 #121
horrible... LudwigPastorius Oct 2023 #3
That gif is way too vivid to let people just happen upon. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2023 #5
Do you know the video? It's damned powerful. nolabear Oct 2023 #8
I do. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2023 #13
edited LudwigPastorius Oct 2023 #10
Hey, thanks for reconsidering. I really appreciate it. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2023 #14
The shooter as shown on the Agenda-Free stream posted in the OP teach1st Oct 2023 #4
Odd-looking footwear in those images. Drum Oct 2023 #7
A white guy with an assault rifle? I am shocked. OK, maybe not. LonePirate Oct 2023 #9
This - Rinse, repeat. Bundbuster Oct 2023 #53
Yeah. An unfortunate common thread. calimary Oct 2023 #56
Thanks. I listen to agenda free Demovictory9 Oct 2023 #6
this is a horrible disgusting thing to say, but...... 90-percent Oct 2023 #11
WAAAAAAY too high a price to pay. calimary Oct 2023 #16
kinda sick that my own thoughts were "it has been a while" Takket Oct 2023 #15
umm PrincessMorgan Oct 2023 #42
And..because this happened someone else with an AR15 will be motivated by this guy to strike PortTack Oct 2023 #79
"Police say there's an active shooter in Lewiston, Maine, and they are investigating multiple scenes" brooklynite Oct 2023 #17
Central Maine Medical Center is reacting to a mass casualty, mass shooter event teach1st Oct 2023 #20
You know this is very bad when malaise Oct 2023 #21
casualties reported blogslug Oct 2023 #23
This dude impresses me. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2023 #24
Steve is the best AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #68
CNN: 16 dead brooklynite Oct 2023 #25
CNN: 16 dead. 50-60 injured teach1st Oct 2023 #26
OMG!! This is so horrible for the people of Lewiston so so so horrible. riversedge Oct 2023 #35
No doubt of the 50-60 injured several more will die due to the nature of the destructive AR15 ammo PortTack Oct 2023 #83
22 Skittles Oct 2023 #86
Jesus! That's horrible! C Moon Oct 2023 #102
16 dead, 50-60 injured, thanks GOP gun lovers!!!! BigmanPigman Oct 2023 #27
CNN saying at least sixteen dead malaise Oct 2023 #28
Lewiston has a significant Muslim population maryellen99 Oct 2023 #29
Oh geez. The only thing that could make this worse is if it was also a hate crime. BlueCheeseAgain Oct 2023 #31
FUCK niyad Oct 2023 #94
Oh no. BlueCheeseAgain Oct 2023 #30
Wait, this is still going? BlueCheeseAgain Oct 2023 #33
Yes. Armed, big backpack. nolabear Oct 2023 #38
Scanner said another shooting in neighboring Sabattus, two gunmen. God this is getting more and more horrible. riversedge Oct 2023 #34
Another asshole with a gun brought to you by the NRA. Initech Oct 2023 #36
And, the Bloodthirsty MagaShitheads. Cha Oct 2023 #62
True! Fuck them all! Initech Oct 2023 #71
My niece is just north at Colby College brooklynite Oct 2023 #37
I hope she's aware and knows to stay safe. BlueCheeseAgain Oct 2023 #44
Another WHITE guy......sorry, but damn it, I hate being white...... a kennedy Oct 2023 #39
hi PrincessMorgan Oct 2023 #41
Thank you....and welcome to DU...... a kennedy Oct 2023 #45
Don't blame yourself. BlueCheeseAgain Oct 2023 #43
YES IT DOES...... a kennedy Oct 2023 #51
As I said elsewhere, Mainer is 93% White. brooklynite Oct 2023 #49
Idiots everywhere PrincessMorgan Oct 2023 #40
Update: 22 deaths, 55-60 injuries; shooting in 3 different locations (per NBC) brooklynite Oct 2023 #46
22 dead now in an hour at 3 locations KewlKat Oct 2023 #47
NBC News now saying 22 dead BumRushDaShow Oct 2023 #50
Depends what you call terrorism Warpy Oct 2023 #81
I consider any type of threat in this fashion BumRushDaShow Oct 2023 #84
Statement by Senator King brooklynite Oct 2023 #52
I just drove thru Lewiston. Damn the NRA and all crazy gun nuts! FailureToCommunicate Oct 2023 #54
From NBC TheProle Oct 2023 #57
"In other news, a lawfully purchased and responsibly owned assault rifle was used for its intended purpose today.... TalenaGor Oct 2023 #58
White male.... SergeStorms Oct 2023 #59
Small cities not equipped for such a large mass casualty event bucolic_frolic Oct 2023 #60
I'm hearing Robert Card. Ex-military. nt Baltimike Oct 2023 #61
Source? SergeStorms Oct 2023 #64
Police issued a Be On the LookOut (BOLO) NutmegYankee Oct 2023 #67
Thanks. SergeStorms Oct 2023 #72
I heard that name in the video, along with him being a firearms niyad Oct 2023 #105
They are reporting now. sheshe2 Oct 2023 #112
TY :( Cha Oct 2023 #73
Just on MSNBC sheshe2 Oct 2023 #111
And he was a firearm instructor. Local cops probably know this guy and signs were likely ignored by friends and family. Runningdawg Oct 2023 #90
According to what I heard on the video, known mental health niyad Oct 2023 #106
They should publicly torture him slowly Tribetime Oct 2023 #63
Agenda Free always has the best coverage for this stuff AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #65
Imagne my surprise - wathcing MSNBC and seeing the news about a mass shooting 40 mi from where I live infullview Oct 2023 #66
Omg, all those people Catherine Vincent Oct 2023 #69
Let's all take a moment to thank the NRA and GOP for making this possible Blue Owl Oct 2023 #70
His Constitutional god-given right.... SergeStorms Oct 2023 #75
I read that there were 3 shooting locations in Lewiston. wnylib Oct 2023 #74
No basis to assume either a plan or randomness. brooklynite Oct 2023 #78
My former neighbors live in Lewiston Marthe48 Oct 2023 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author LuckyCharms Oct 2023 #80
Some info on that might be invalid. NutmegYankee Oct 2023 #85
Correct, shooter is not the sex offender guy. WarGamer Oct 2023 #100
Possible accomplice now AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #82
I saw one report that there may be two shooters. nt sheshe2 Oct 2023 #115
Live coverage of Lewiston shooting (News Center Maine) brooklynite Oct 2023 #87
Trained firearm instructor. The Unmitigated Gall Oct 2023 #88
Details on suspect Robert Card (NewsCenter Maine) brooklynite Oct 2023 #89
First action RICO signed as President Cheezoholic Oct 2023 #91
Wish I could rec this a dozen times. Hope Biden mentions this in a press conference. nt eppur_se_muova Oct 2023 #110
Shooter was committed (and apparently released) from a mental health facility just this summer. LudwigPastorius Oct 2023 #92
They will all be out tomorrow with their ... sheshe2 Oct 2023 #114
This poem says it all ... aggiesal Oct 2023 #93
so, the shooter was "hearing voices," which suggests schizophrenia, but why ecstatic Oct 2023 #96
Time for my mass shooting meme AZLD4Candidate Oct 2023 #97
FUCK THE GODDAMNED GUNHUMPING CULTISTS. MAY THEY niyad Oct 2023 #101
Yep Eliot Rosewater Oct 2023 #120
40-50 injured? are they prepared for that many casualties there? Maru Kitteh Oct 2023 #113
No way is there the medical infrastructure obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #116
 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
2. In Maine? Maybe but they are pretty blue up there.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 08:41 PM
Oct 2023

Even the republicans are purple. Not like Alabama.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
18. No, they're not.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:02 PM
Oct 2023

Remember the previous Governor of Maine? Senator Susan Collins?

And when you get out of the city, the rural profile is very different (same as Vermont).

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
48. There are plenty of MAGAT types
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:42 PM
Oct 2023

in Maine and other parts of New England, especially in rural areas and small towns.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,285 posts)
122. One thing is for sure, shooters are almost NEVER liberals...maybe one or two here
Thu Oct 26, 2023, 05:44 PM
Oct 2023

and there but almost never.

Very rare.

meadowlander

(5,133 posts)
108. It only takes 1.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:55 PM
Oct 2023

Look at Ethan Nordean from the Proud Boys coming from Seattle, one of the bluest areas in the country.

A lot of times deeply mediocre people with unearned superiority complexes latch on to any possible point of difference from the majority they can find and having contrarian political views in an area where almost everyone else thinks otherwise fuels their sense of pride, individuality and specialness.

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
107. Family bowling night.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:43 PM
Oct 2023

That means women and children were probably gunned down by this coward. 🤬

Eliot Rosewater

(34,285 posts)
121. I was right...wasnt a hard prediction to make.
Thu Oct 26, 2023, 05:40 PM
Oct 2023

His social media showed he "liked" tweets by many hard right scum including trump jr and dinesh dsouza.

And was NOT a guess. sigh

teach1st

(6,024 posts)
4. The shooter as shown on the Agenda-Free stream posted in the OP
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 08:44 PM
Oct 2023


This is from the Spare Time bowling alley, one of the two reported shooting locations.

calimary

(90,021 posts)
56. Yeah. An unfortunate common thread.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:05 PM
Oct 2023

But hey, let's not do anything about access to guns...

This just makes me so sad. And it's not going to stop as long as these hand-held murder machines are so easy to get. Not just murder machine. MASSACRE machine.

90-percent

(6,956 posts)
11. this is a horrible disgusting thing to say, but......
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 08:49 PM
Oct 2023

America seems to be failing in the NRA's efforts to have at least one mass shooting a week. Small price to pay to enjoy our second amendment rights.

-90% Jimmy






calimary

(90,021 posts)
16. WAAAAAAY too high a price to pay.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 08:58 PM
Oct 2023

They should be told they're NOT "pro-life" if they're pro-gun. Start the drumbeat.

Takket

(23,715 posts)
15. kinda sick that my own thoughts were "it has been a while"
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 08:57 PM
Oct 2023

when it hasn't been that long at all............

PortTack

(35,820 posts)
79. And..because this happened someone else with an AR15 will be motivated by this guy to strike
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:35 PM
Oct 2023
 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
17. "Police say there's an active shooter in Lewiston, Maine, and they are investigating multiple scenes"
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:01 PM
Oct 2023

LEWISTON, Maine (AP) — Maine State Police ordered residents in the state’s second-largest city to shelter in place Wednesday night because of an active shooter situation.

The alert for Lewiston was made shortly after 8 p.m. as the Androscoggin County Sheriff’s Office reported that law enforcement agencies were investigating “two active shooter events.” The sheriff’s office said the suspect was still at large.

“We are encouraging all businesses to lock down and or close while we investigate,” the sheriff’s office reported.

A spokesperson for Maine Department of Public Safety urged residents to stay in their homes with their doors locked.

https://apnews.com/article/lewiston-maine-shootings-49da6d06a8b5a15d3b619b3927bc33ff

PortTack

(35,820 posts)
83. No doubt of the 50-60 injured several more will die due to the nature of the destructive AR15 ammo
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:39 PM
Oct 2023

BigmanPigman

(55,152 posts)
27. 16 dead, 50-60 injured, thanks GOP gun lovers!!!!
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:19 PM
Oct 2023

Are you happy? Do you even give a shit? Are you making big $$$ and getting lots of votes?

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,983 posts)
31. Oh geez. The only thing that could make this worse is if it was also a hate crime.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:23 PM
Oct 2023

I hope not.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
38. Yes. Armed, big backpack.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:31 PM
Oct 2023

Will this be normal now? Do we have to be afraid every minute ?

God DAMN automatic weapons.

riversedge

(80,811 posts)
34. Scanner said another shooting in neighboring Sabattus, two gunmen. God this is getting more and more horrible.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:26 PM
Oct 2023

a kennedy

(35,994 posts)
39. Another WHITE guy......sorry, but damn it, I hate being white......
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:33 PM
Oct 2023

All the shit we did and are now doing to the Natives, to the Black, Asians and Latino Americans……..I AM SO SORRY.

PrincessMorgan

(61 posts)
41. hi
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:36 PM
Oct 2023

don't apologize for being white. We just need to do something like abolish the gop and nra and expose these monsters and demand democrats do more.

a kennedy

(35,994 posts)
45. Thank you....and welcome to DU......
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:40 PM
Oct 2023

I’m just sick of all the WHITE people killing other Americans of different colors…….SICK OF IT. 🤬 🤬 🤬

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,983 posts)
43. Don't blame yourself.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:38 PM
Oct 2023

Just because the shooter has the same skin color means nothing at all.

a kennedy

(35,994 posts)
51. YES IT DOES......
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:45 PM
Oct 2023

YES IT DOES………. and ok, 22 now dead…….ok, so is he on mushrooms, having mental problems, troubles at home…..WHY THE HELL DOES HE HAVE A KILLING MACHINE WEAPON???

PrincessMorgan

(61 posts)
40. Idiots everywhere
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:35 PM
Oct 2023

Last edited Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:24 PM - Edit history (1)

https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-laws/states/maine/

Maine has the worst gun laws in state.
What do lawmakers want. 100 people dead before they act. What the hell is wrong with democrats and Republicans. Maine has a liberal governor right. How many men need to kill 3 dozen people everyday before something is done. Hell Robert Benitez a judge in california is trying to get rid of our assault weapons ban. I WILL SAY THIS ONCE THAT EVERY GUN INDUSTRY COMPANY AND PEOPE WHO LOVE ASSAULT RIFLES NEED TO F..THEMSELVES. I NEED 2024 TO BE A DEMOCRATIC REVOLUTION BEACUSE GOP AND NRA CLOWNS ARE TAKING OUR PEACE AWAY.

Also why does the news say 16 dead then I saw 22. Do none of these news organizations update information. Cnn says 16 and msnbc 22 and are talking at the same time. FUCKNRAGUNLOVERS

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
50. NBC News now saying 22 dead
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 09:45 PM
Oct 2023

AP still at 10.

3m ago / 9:42 PM EDT
22 dead, dozens wounded in shootings

Tom Winter, Jonathan Dienst and Andrew Blankstein

At least 22 people were killed in shootings in Lewiston, Maine, according to a Lewiston police source.

Dozens were wounded in shootings at several locations, including a bowling alley, according to four law enforcement officials briefed on the matter.

The officials said the numbers were preliminary and could change.

There were no initial signs of terrorism.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/active-shooter-incident-reported-lewiston-maine-live-updates-rcna122249/rcrd23135?canonicalCard=true

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
81. Depends what you call terrorism
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:38 PM
Oct 2023

I call this terrorism, thanks.

I doubt the locations were random in any way,. My guess is that he struck out with women, struck out at work.

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
84. I consider any type of threat in this fashion
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:42 PM
Oct 2023

"terrorism". But obviously the there are technical and legal definitions that don't really exist when it comes to when it happens "domestically".

I expect he maybe worked at those locations at one time and/or knew people who worked there.

TheProle

(3,982 posts)
57. From NBC
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:06 PM
Oct 2023

Number of dead is almost or more than total homicides in state most years
NBC News

The believed death toll of 22 in tonight’s shooting is almost or more than the annual number of homicides in all of Maine.

Last year there were 29 homicides in Maine, which has a population of almost 1.4 million, according to statistics from the State Department of Public Safety. In 2020, there were 20.

Recent earlier years had similar numbers, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, of around the high teen

TalenaGor

(1,219 posts)
58. "In other news, a lawfully purchased and responsibly owned assault rifle was used for its intended purpose today....
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:08 PM
Oct 2023

the rifle performed flawlessly....

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
59. White male....
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:09 PM
Oct 2023

probably a Newsmax watching right-wing gun nut. 😡

I know, I'm really going out on a limb there with those suppositions.

bucolic_frolic

(55,143 posts)
60. Small cities not equipped for such a large mass casualty event
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:09 PM
Oct 2023

Let's support all the LE and medical personnel in doing their jobs to the max.

NutmegYankee

(16,478 posts)
67. Police issued a Be On the LookOut (BOLO)
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:19 PM
Oct 2023

The name was Robert Card with a birthdate in 1983.

niyad

(132,443 posts)
105. I heard that name in the video, along with him being a firearms
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:38 PM
Oct 2023

instructor with mental health issues. Institutionalized two weeks this past summer.

Runningdawg

(4,664 posts)
90. And he was a firearm instructor. Local cops probably know this guy and signs were likely ignored by friends and family.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:14 PM
Oct 2023

niyad

(132,443 posts)
106. According to what I heard on the video, known mental health
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:41 PM
Oct 2023

issues, was institutionalized two weeks this past summer.

 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
65. Agenda Free always has the best coverage for this stuff
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:16 PM
Oct 2023

Steve does a great job.
That police scanner... 😬😬

This shit has to end.
I can't believe we as a country have kicked the can down the road for so long over this. Ugh.

infullview

(1,129 posts)
66. Imagne my surprise - wathcing MSNBC and seeing the news about a mass shooting 40 mi from where I live
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:18 PM
Oct 2023

WTF!? Nothing like this has ever happened here. I gotta believe this is yet another case of right wing brain washing from the likes of FOX or the plethora of right wing pod casters.

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
75. His Constitutional god-given right....
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:32 PM
Oct 2023

to own military type weapons in order to amass as many casualties as possible in the shortest amount of time.

Thanks, NRA and GOP. 🖕

wnylib

(26,017 posts)
74. I read that there were 3 shooting locations in Lewiston.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:31 PM
Oct 2023

Last edited Thu Oct 26, 2023, 12:14 AM - Edit history (1)

A bowling alley, a bar, and a Wal-Mart distribution center. All in the same city on the same night. Sounds like it might have been coordinated if there is more than one shooter. If there is only one, he is moving quickly from place to place.

Marthe48

(23,175 posts)
76. My former neighbors live in Lewiston
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:34 PM
Oct 2023

and my daughter's in-laws live in another part of Maine. My old neighbors are okay, so far, sheltering in place. I absolutely hate the lack of law that allowed this massacre to happen. Not just this massacre, all of the gun murders.

Response to eShirl (Original post)

NutmegYankee

(16,478 posts)
85. Some info on that might be invalid.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:44 PM
Oct 2023

The sex offender guy has a different birth year than the BOLO for the active shooter and the face is different. Lots of bad info going around.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
89. Details on suspect Robert Card (NewsCenter Maine)
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:01 PM
Oct 2023

Army reservist

Shooting instructor

Said he was "hearing voices"

Talked about shooting up a military base

Cheezoholic

(3,719 posts)
91. First action RICO signed as President
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:17 PM
Oct 2023

Reversed the federal law that limited access to firearms for the mentally ill.

LudwigPastorius

(14,725 posts)
92. Shooter was committed (and apparently released) from a mental health facility just this summer.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:18 PM
Oct 2023

...and yet, he has an assault weapon and lots of ammo.

Fuck the gun-sucking Republican politicians who facilitated this on-going murder spree by refusing sensible weapons laws!

sheshe2

(97,633 posts)
114. They will all be out tomorrow with their ...
Thu Oct 26, 2023, 12:11 AM
Oct 2023

They will all be out tomorrow with their usual thoughts and prayers.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
96. so, the shooter was "hearing voices," which suggests schizophrenia, but why
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:26 PM
Oct 2023

did he choose the targets that he did? A bar? Walmart? A restaurant? Aren't they usually fixated on government conspiracies?

niyad

(132,443 posts)
101. FUCK THE GODDAMNED GUNHUMPING CULTISTS. MAY THEY
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:34 PM
Oct 2023

AND THEIR ENABLERS RECEIVE EVERYTHING THEY DESERVE.

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