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AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 12:43 PM Oct 2023

The spokesman of the IDF everybody!

Just another conservative dickhead.

And nobody should be amplifying anyone who celebrated the Hamas attacks but this is ridiculous.

https://www.politico.eu/article/greta-thunberg-calls-global-pro-palestinian-strike-gaza-genocide-israel-slam/]



The Israeli military lashed out at Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg on Friday, after she sent a message supporting Palestinians and endorsed a comment which said a "genocide" was being perpetrated in Gaza.

Thunberg said “the world needs to speak up and call for an immediate ceasefire, justice and freedom for Palestinians and all civilians affected,” as the Israel-Hamas war escalates and threatens to become a regional conflict.

Thunberg also shared on her Instagram account a post by a German-based pro-Palestinian account which says a “genocide” is happening in Gaza.

The group, Palestine Speaks — which celebrated Hamas' lethal assault on Israel two weeks ago — talked of its "indignation against genocide in Gaza and the repressive state terror of many Western states against anyone who shows and acts in solidarity with the Palestinians.”


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The spokesman of the IDF everybody! (Original Post) AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 OP
Dear claudette Oct 2023 #1
..the Dept of Redundancy Dept. thomski64 Oct 2023 #6
Greta is a clear and present danger to Israel.... Chainfire Oct 2023 #2
Ya conservatives are always attacking her AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #3
As Ms. Thunberg might say: Disaffected Oct 2023 #4
Your selective editing is interesting and of course leaves out important details that JohnSJ Oct 2023 #5
The fact he even said this is quite revealing AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #10
Israel is still a Democracy. Netanyahu's attempt to overhaul the judicial system was facing its first legal JohnSJ Oct 2023 #18
What's the claudette Oct 2023 #22
Exactly. Goddessartist Oct 2023 #23
"nobody should be amplifying anyone who celebrated the Hamas attacks" sarisataka Oct 2023 #7
Thank-you for putting in the full context. JohnSJ Oct 2023 #9
Generally speaking AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #11
I'll take that as a yes. sarisataka Oct 2023 #13
Funny thing AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #15
Still seems like your answer is yes nt sarisataka Oct 2023 #17
John Kirby is Assistant to the Secretary of Defense. What is your point? JohnSJ Oct 2023 #19
This person was NOT speaking on behalf of the IDF. One needs to read the link to see that this was his JohnSJ Oct 2023 #8
He is the spokesman for the IDF AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #14
but he was not speaking on behalf of the IDF. Politico screwed that up also. He was expressing his JohnSJ Oct 2023 #20
Greta is not a terrorist stopdiggin Oct 2023 #12
Spokespeople of governments headed by fascist racists will say bad stuff. David__77 Oct 2023 #16
and he wasn't speaking on behalf of the IDF, but his personal views. JohnSJ Oct 2023 #21
 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
3. Ya conservatives are always attacking her
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 12:48 PM
Oct 2023

From Jordan Petersen to Ron DeSantis.
Right wingers hate her more than anyone on the planet.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
5. Your selective editing is interesting and of course leaves out important details that
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 12:57 PM
Oct 2023

you choose not to directly mention in the OP, specifically that he was NOT speaking on behalf of the IDF, but was expressing his personal views. That omission in the OP I suspect was intentional.



“Arye Sharuz Shalicar later apologized for his remarks about Thunberg supporters and said, "I spoke out of a deep sense of pain and my words do not reflect my personal views or those of the IDF."

Thunberg herself also issued an updated statement. "We are of course against any type of discrimination, and condemn antisemitism in all forms and shapes. This is non-negotiable," she said.”

but of course not directly mentioning that in the OP had a purpose I suspect

 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
10. The fact he even said this is quite revealing
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 01:10 PM
Oct 2023

And that's the point.
When someone shows you who they are, believe them. Israel is a fascist government run by a guy who's facing several corruption charges & took away much of the the power of the courts. Dissent will literally land you in jail & your personal possessions seized.

Gee, that sounds pretty familiar doesn't it?

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
18. Israel is still a Democracy. Netanyahu's attempt to overhaul the judicial system was facing its first legal
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 01:42 PM
Oct 2023

challenge in the Israeli Supreme Court before the Hamas attacks. In addition, the latest polls before the Hamas attack indicated that Netanyahu is in political trouble, and Gantz is their preferred prime minister by a margin of almost 2 to 1, and would gain the majority of seats in the Knesset, or parliament,

The Hamas attack will not help him either, and when the situation is stabilized, there will be a vote of no confidence, and he will lose.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/netanyahus-judicial-overhaul-faces-first-legal-challenge-in-israeli-supreme-court





 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
22. What's the
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 02:40 PM
Oct 2023

difference. How someone so stupid and prejudiced can even be chosen spokesman for the IDF says it all

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
7. "nobody should be amplifying anyone who celebrated the Hamas attacks"
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 01:05 PM
Oct 2023

Which is what she did, shared a post from Palestine Speaks...

It was wrong.

Thunberg herself also issued an updated statement. "We are of course against any type of discrimination, and condemn antisemitism in all forms and shapes. This is non-negotiable," she said.


Also the IDF spokesman
Arye Sharuz Shalicar later apologized for his remarks about Thunberg supporters and said, "I spoke out of a deep sense of pain and my words do not reflect my personal views or those of the IDF." 


A question however- do you believe all of the IDF are "conservative dickheads"?
 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
11. Generally speaking
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 01:11 PM
Oct 2023

A leader of a country tends to pick people who align with their views, right? Right.

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
13. I'll take that as a yes.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 01:17 PM
Oct 2023

Since Netanyahu no more picks very member of the IDF than Biden does the US Army.

Same for random spokesmen from said groups.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
8. This person was NOT speaking on behalf of the IDF. One needs to read the link to see that this was his
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 01:07 PM
Oct 2023

personal views, and he was not speaking on behalf of the IDF. That information was clearly left out of the OP, and one would need to go into the article to see the full context, which is the following:

“Arye Sharuz Shalicar later apologized for his remarks about Thunberg supporters and said, "I spoke out of a deep sense of pain and my words do not reflect my personal views or those of the IDF."

Thunberg herself also issued an updated statement. "We are of course against any type of discrimination, and condemn antisemitism in all forms and shapes. This is non-negotiable," she said.”

 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
14. He is the spokesman for the IDF
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 01:17 PM
Oct 2023

So are we now not holding people accountable for what they say? He is the head of the IDF. He speaks for them literally. He's a public figure.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
20. but he was not speaking on behalf of the IDF. Politico screwed that up also. He was expressing his
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 01:49 PM
Oct 2023

personal views.

Public figures can express their personal views also.

stopdiggin

(15,463 posts)
12. Greta is not a terrorist
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 01:11 PM
Oct 2023

And Greta probably ought to be a little more careful in 're-posting' from sources that showed approval of the Hamas attack (although that is not always apparent in a feed 3 weeks on).

And the word 'genocide' is being used fairly liberally these days. That's probably not helpful.

It's also probably somewhat relevant that both statements have been walked back by now

David__77

(24,728 posts)
16. Spokespeople of governments headed by fascist racists will say bad stuff.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 01:26 PM
Oct 2023

Thankfully it does not represent all the people.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
21. and he wasn't speaking on behalf of the IDF, but his personal views.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 01:50 PM
Oct 2023

“Arye Sharuz Shalicar later apologized for his remarks about Thunberg supporters and said, "I spoke out of a deep sense of pain and my words do not reflect my personal views or those of the IDF."

Thunberg herself also issued an updated statement. "We are of course against any type of discrimination, and condemn antisemitism in all forms and shapes. This is non-negotiable," she said.”

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