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Collimator

(2,118 posts)
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 02:59 PM Oct 2023

Do you know that Biden is building a new nuclear bomb?

I just read that on a news alert on my phone. I'm always getting alarmng alerts on my government assistance phone. They are consistantly terrible. Sometimes they are about real news items several days old. They usually pop up when I check my phone after I wake up, so I can start my day miserable.

I used to get equally alarming weather alerts on my phone. One began with the words, "Drought, disease, disaster" (they may not have been in that exact order). I knew they were bogus, but when an alert popped up with a picture of a flying saucer, I thought, That does it, You have lost all credibility. I had one of the young counselors at my psychiatric services group delete that particular app. Looks like I'll have to ask her for some more assistance getting rid of these other nonsense news alerts.

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Do you know that Biden is building a new nuclear bomb? (Original Post) Collimator Oct 2023 OP
Biden is building a nuclear bomb? DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2023 #1
why else would he onethatcares Oct 2023 #3
Really! I thought he was addled and senile, while in reality Ocelot II Oct 2023 #5
A physicist? Who knew? DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2023 #7
Dude has mad skills Sewa Oct 2023 #16
I knew he was clever... Chainfire Oct 2023 #2
Well, Everybody Needs A Hobby ProfessorGAC Oct 2023 #9
I tried to build an atomic bomb, the the AEC wouldn't give me any U235. Chainfire Oct 2023 #11
Unfair ProfessorGAC Oct 2023 #12
My parents sold the station wagon to buy me nuclear physics gear. usonian Oct 2023 #29
Well that's sorta correct Red Mountain Oct 2023 #4
It's The B61-7, With A New Design... ProfessorGAC Oct 2023 #8
Thank you, Red Mountain and Professor GAC. . . Collimator Oct 2023 #10
Got Ya! ProfessorGAC Oct 2023 #14
Can Biden veto this? DemocratInPa Oct 2023 #20
That might explain why the assembly/maintenance plant wanted to hire 200 production techs blogslug Oct 2023 #23
Gotta keep up with the Jones, Putin, Xi, Kim, Modi & Netanyahu families. Wonder Why Oct 2023 #38
In his Delaware basement? Sneederbunk Oct 2023 #6
seems like more of a garage project 0rganism Oct 2023 #22
". . . ease of transportation counts with those things. . ." Collimator Oct 2023 #37
They call the new bomb "The Hurricane Buster". Midnight Writer Oct 2023 #13
What do you have installed on your phone? lol AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #15
My phone scares me. Collimator Oct 2023 #17
It's easy, just do as I suggested AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #18
Perhaps. Collimator Oct 2023 #19
Could you expand on your profile some? XRubicon Oct 2023 #25
my brother always says that NJCher Oct 2023 #27
My phone was provided for me by a government-sponsored service. Collimator Oct 2023 #35
Personally?! Bucky Oct 2023 #21
Do you know how the world works for the last 78 years? XRubicon Oct 2023 #24
" Do you know how the world works for the last 78 years?" Collimator Oct 2023 #36
What do you expect? dchill Oct 2023 #26
Senile, old, 'trippy' Joe Biden. keithbvadu2 Oct 2023 #28
He is up to something! Aussie105 Oct 2023 #30
as Tom Waits would say, onethatcares Oct 2023 #33
Everyone needs a hobby. Nt hack89 Oct 2023 #31
Get rid of that crap 634-5789 Oct 2023 #32
DOD announcement: sl8 Oct 2023 #34
"The B61-13 would include the modern safety,. . . features of the B61-12." Collimator Oct 2023 #39

Ocelot II

(130,516 posts)
5. Really! I thought he was addled and senile, while in reality
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 03:09 PM
Oct 2023

he's Dr. Strangelove, clandestinely building a nuclear bomb in the basement of the White House. No wonder his dog keeps biting Secret Service agents.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
2. I knew he was clever...
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 03:01 PM
Oct 2023

Biden builds nuclear weapons, Trump spreads catchup on the dining room walls. That is equivilence.

ProfessorGAC

(76,693 posts)
9. Well, Everybody Needs A Hobby
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 03:25 PM
Oct 2023

For a diversion, some people throw ketchup, some build nukes for fun!

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
11. I tried to build an atomic bomb, the the AEC wouldn't give me any U235.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 04:47 PM
Oct 2023

I asked very nicely. Spoil sports! I am moving on, my current project is a catapult but I am too slow to catch the neighbors cats.

usonian

(25,300 posts)
29. My parents sold the station wagon to buy me nuclear physics gear.
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 03:41 AM
Oct 2023


I moved on to lasers a while back. They do quite a lot of damage without the boom and mushroom cloud.

Gotta go. Red phone is ringing. ☎️

Red Mountain

(2,342 posts)
4. Well that's sorta correct
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 03:04 PM
Oct 2023

Biden isn't building it. The military has proposed an upgraded version of an existing bomb. The B61-13 would utilize components of older existing B61 versions.....if the money is supplied by Congress to make it happen.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/plans-for-more-destructive-b61-nuclear-bomb-unveiled

ProfessorGAC

(76,693 posts)
8. It's The B61-7, With A New Design...
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 03:13 PM
Oct 2023

...of the casing. It's supposed to be as accurate as the dash 12, but the same yield as the dash 7.
It's barely fair to call it "new". More of an improvement or enhancement.

Collimator

(2,118 posts)
10. Thank you, Red Mountain and Professor GAC. . .
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 03:29 PM
Oct 2023

. . . For providing, accurate, detailed information. Obviously, my point is that various "news" sources are regularly throwing out provocative news blurbs in an attempt to entice attention and clicks. And even if people don't bite (such as myself), there is at least a segment of the population that will read the pared down version of the situation--and not a word more-- and consider themselves informed.

ProfessorGAC

(76,693 posts)
14. Got Ya!
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 05:43 PM
Oct 2023

And, you're right.
It's a ridiculously inflammatory headline. BTW: the decision to pursue this updated technology was approved in, you guessed it, 2020. Before Biden was in office.

0rganism

(25,642 posts)
22. seems like more of a garage project
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 01:16 AM
Oct 2023

that's where I assemble all my nuclear weapons, anyway. ease of transportation counts with those things...

Collimator

(2,118 posts)
37. ". . . ease of transportation counts with those things. . ."
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 10:45 AM
Oct 2023

So very true! Unless you have a walk out basement, you don't build those bulky things in the basement 'cause you can't get it back up the stairs.

And Biden seems like the kind of sensible, hands on sort of guy who would know that. Now, Trump is the sort of fool who would hire people to build a giant death ray in his basement, (so he could stand next to it for a photo-op and take credit), then throw a Rumplestilskin-like tantrum upon being told that it would have to be completely disassembled before it could be moved. "Uh, sorry, sir, but it just won't fit up those stairs."

 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
15. What do you have installed on your phone? lol
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 05:45 PM
Oct 2023

Is this an Android?
Go through your apps & long hold on the app icon, a menu pops up, choose uninstall, done.

Collimator

(2,118 posts)
17. My phone scares me.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 06:25 PM
Oct 2023

And I freak out with ease. The phone is always throwing some glitch at me. For awhile there it was buzzing like a beehive drunk on mead.
My coping method is to get an official young person to deal with the apps.

 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
18. It's easy, just do as I suggested
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 07:57 PM
Oct 2023

And it will take literally 10 seconds 😀

Basically just press & hold the icon of an app & you'll see 👍🏼

Collimator

(2,118 posts)
19. Perhaps.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 10:34 PM
Oct 2023

But my phone is my only means of contacting people in an emergency. And it regularly does weird things of its own volition. Sometimes, it stops making text alert sounds. The other day, it wouldn't let me open any contacts under "search contacts". A couple of years ago, it stopped ringing to let me know when it was receiving calls. I never opened or touched the "settings" icon.

I'm just very wary about fussing with my phone. It may be a flaw, but I've come to accept that about myself.

XRubicon

(2,241 posts)
25. Could you expand on your profile some?
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 01:58 AM
Oct 2023

About Collimator

I love logic and respect feelings. My aspiration here is to engage in reasoned discourse. I believe that Truth Leaks. It may take the time span of a Grand Canyon to wear away at human deceit and denial, but truth always carves its own path.

I feel like you have more to say but cannot in this forum.

NJCher

(43,161 posts)
27. my brother always says that
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 02:15 AM
Oct 2023

kind of stuff about his Android phone.
Just get a damn iPhone. So much simpler.

Collimator

(2,118 posts)
35. My phone was provided for me by a government-sponsored service.
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 10:14 AM
Oct 2023

I accept what they provide and I make do.

Collimator

(2,118 posts)
36. " Do you know how the world works for the last 78 years?"
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 10:19 AM
Oct 2023

Probably not. I think that I have a pretty good grasp on human nature, but there are aspects of the world at large that leave me quite bewildered.

Aussie105

(7,920 posts)
30. He is up to something!
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 04:39 AM
Oct 2023

Once he has reassembled a pile of junk nuke bomb parts into something new and shiny, what is he planning to do with them?

No room in the garage for the 'vette with all those nukes in there!

sl8

(17,110 posts)
34. DOD announcement:
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 08:54 AM
Oct 2023
https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3571660/department-of-defense-announces-pursuit-of-b61-gravity-bomb-variant/


RELEASE
IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Department of Defense Announces Pursuit of B61 Gravity Bomb Variant

Oct. 27, 2023

Today, the Department of Defense (DoD) announced that the United States will pursue a modern variant of the B61 nuclear gravity bomb, designated the B61-13, pending Congressional authorization and appropriation.

The Department of Energy's National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) would produce the B61-13. The decision to pursue this capability, which was undertaken in close collaboration with the NNSA, responds to the demands of a rapidly evolving security environment as described in the 2022 Nuclear Posture Review.

"Today's announcement is reflective of a changing security environment and growing threats from potential adversaries," said Assistant Secretary of Defense for Space Policy John Plumb. "The United States has a responsibility to continue to assess and field the capabilities we need to credibly deter and, if necessary, respond to strategic attacks, and assure our allies."

The B61-13 would be deliverable by modern aircraft, strengthening deterrence of adversaries and assurance of allies and partners by providing the President with additional options against certain harder and large-area military targets. It would replace some of the B61-7s in the current nuclear stockpile and have a yield similar to the B61-7, which is higher than that of the B61-12.

"The B61-13 represents a reasonable step to manage the challenges of a highly dynamic security environment," said Plumb. "While it provides us with additional flexibility, production of the B61-13 will not increase the overall number of weapons in our nuclear stockpile."

The B61-13 would take advantage of the current, established production capabilities supporting the B61-12, and would include the modern safety, security, and accuracy features of the B61-12.

This initiative follows several months of review and consideration. The fielding of the B61-13 is not in response to any specific current event; it reflects an ongoing assessment of a changing security environment.

The fact sheet can be found here. [link to PDF]

Collimator

(2,118 posts)
39. "The B61-13 would include the modern safety,. . . features of the B61-12."
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 01:00 PM
Oct 2023

That's the miltary mind for you. "Safety features" are always a critical component to any device designed to destroy human life.

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