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Just dropping this here (Original Post) AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 OP
K&R for exposure... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #1
Tragically that's so true. Israel may have already gone too far... brush Oct 2023 #2
Disagree. Most people know bombing kids is wrong. The issue is that most people aren't the ones in power. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2023 #3
It's crazy. I don't remember many people having protests opposing Jewish kids being massacred by Hamas. MyNameIsJonas Oct 2023 #4
Where are the questions? DaBronx Oct 2023 #5
People don't want to admit that Hamas is the one doing this. Not Israel. MyNameIsJonas Oct 2023 #6
Israel is the only nation to experience a major terror attack and is expected not to retaliate ripcord Oct 2023 #8
Yup. It's quite remarkable. MyNameIsJonas Oct 2023 #10
The response of Americans that I witnessed after October 7 was overwhelmingly support for Israel. hay rick Oct 2023 #7
I don't remember massive rallies in support of Israel. MyNameIsJonas Oct 2023 #9
There have been rallies supporting Israel's right to exist and rallies supporting Palestinian grievances. hay rick Oct 2023 #13
A poll. Wow. And yet the first response to the attack on Israel was to go defend Palestine. MyNameIsJonas Oct 2023 #14
Were there any college campus protests demanding the release of the hostages? Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #11
You really don't want to compare the killing of kids AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #15
Uh, this didn't just start October 7th lees1975 Oct 2023 #12
Haven't seen protests about RU targeting civilians Kaleva Oct 2023 #16
 

brush

(61,033 posts)
2. Tragically that's so true. Israel may have already gone too far...
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 07:04 PM
Oct 2023

with obliteration of human occupied building after building. There has to be a better way to ferret out the terrorists and it's up to them to find it or they risk the world turning against them.

Come on, already, bombing occupied buildings...WTF?

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,371 posts)
3. Disagree. Most people know bombing kids is wrong. The issue is that most people aren't the ones in power.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 07:05 PM
Oct 2023
 

MyNameIsJonas

(744 posts)
4. It's crazy. I don't remember many people having protests opposing Jewish kids being massacred by Hamas.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 08:39 PM
Oct 2023

Hm.

DaBronx

(754 posts)
5. Where are the questions?
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 08:55 PM
Oct 2023

Why is the Hamas govt using their own people as human shields
Why is Hamas telling their own people not to evacuate?
Why is Hamas govt not releasing the supplies and fuel they are hoarding for their unjust and barbaric war against Israel?
Israel has every right to defend itself

 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
8. Israel is the only nation to experience a major terror attack and is expected not to retaliate
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 09:20 PM
Oct 2023

hay rick

(9,363 posts)
7. The response of Americans that I witnessed after October 7 was overwhelmingly support for Israel.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 09:20 PM
Oct 2023

Perhaps you meant that Hamas killing Jewish kids justifies the IDF killing Palestinian kids.

Hm.

 

MyNameIsJonas

(744 posts)
9. I don't remember massive rallies in support of Israel.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 09:36 PM
Oct 2023

I do remember a lot of people who came out after the attack and bothsides it to death - including some elected leaders.

Within hours of the attack, there were pro-Palestine rallies in the US:

Literally a day after the events:

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/08/nyc-palestine-rally-democrats-israel-00120533

https://www.nydailynews.com/2023/10/08/pro-palestine-rally-in-times-square/

hay rick

(9,363 posts)
13. There have been rallies supporting Israel's right to exist and rallies supporting Palestinian grievances.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 10:17 PM
Oct 2023

If a handful of people show up at a pro-Palestinian rally with signs supporting Hamas, for whatever misguided reason, they are almost certain to get media coverage. It reminds me of the George Floyd protests. I saw two people carrying DEFUND THE POLICE signs on TV and the media immediately surrendered to the "Democrats want to defund the police" narrative which was a convenient cudgel for people who didn't want to own up to the obvious problems of racist American policing practices.

Yes, there are some pro-Hamas rallies, particularly on college campuses, but the coverage they receive is disproportionate to the number of sympathizers they represent.

A poll here: https://thehill.com/policy/international/4255413-most-americans-us-government-support-israel/

Most Americans believe the U.S. government should publicly express support for Israel in its war against the Palestinian militant group Hamas, a new poll found.

The NPR-PBS News Hour-Marist poll found that nearly two in three Americans — or roughly 65 percent — say the government should publicly support Israel. About 23 percent said the U.S. should say or do nothing related to the conflict, and 8 percent say the U.S. should publicly criticize Israel.
 

MyNameIsJonas

(744 posts)
14. A poll. Wow. And yet the first response to the attack on Israel was to go defend Palestine.
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 10:29 PM
Oct 2023

And not show support for Israel.

Let's just call a spade a spade.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
11. Were there any college campus protests demanding the release of the hostages?
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 10:07 PM
Oct 2023

Or any "Hamas, hands off Gaza" signs at the NY Grand Central Station?

I don't recall...

 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
15. You really don't want to compare the killing of kids
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 08:41 AM
Oct 2023

between the 2 sides, trust me, that's an argument you can't win.

Now that said, I think we can agree the killing of innocent kids is wrong no matter who's doing it. And keep in mind that 100s of kids have been murdered by the IDF on the West Bank King before October 7.

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