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marmar

(80,071 posts)
Mon Oct 30, 2023, 09:23 AM Oct 2023

Reports: The Maine Shooter Was Able To Buy Guns Legally


(Mother Jones) The Maine mass-shooter obtained several weapons legally, including some in the days immediately before the attack, according to the New York Times, citing local officials.

Robert Card, who shot and killed 18 people in Lewiston, Maine, during a rampage on Wednesday, bought guns in July, just before being hospitalized and ordered to undergo a psychiatric evaluation, according to CNN.

New York State Police told the broadcaster that police were called to Camp Smith in July, where Card was serving in the National Guard, because he was acting “belligerent” and was potentially “intoxicated.” An unnamed federal law enforcement source told CNN that Card informed Army personnel he was “hearing voices” and having thoughts about “hurting other soldiers.”

Just ten days earlier, Card had purchased a high-powered Ruger SFAR rifle. Maine, where Card purchased the gun, does not require background checks on all gun sales. Twenty states currently enforce universal background checks on firearms purchases. .......................(more)

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/10/maine-shooter-lewsiton-guns-legally-purchased-manhunt/




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bucolic_frolic

(55,818 posts)
7. I suspect there's coincidence and causality in there somewhere
Mon Oct 30, 2023, 09:55 AM
Oct 2023

If he were having delusions of power or anger or revenge, he and his victims would be a lot better off if he didn't have free access to purchase. So many of these mass shooters in particular were recent purchasers.

yagotme

(4,136 posts)
3. I didn't see in the article if he actually had a background check done.
Mon Oct 30, 2023, 09:37 AM
Oct 2023

If it was purchased new, or from a dealer, I'm sure he did have one.

sl8

(17,147 posts)
4. I noticed that, too. (updated)
Mon Oct 30, 2023, 09:42 AM
Oct 2023

Last edited Mon Oct 30, 2023, 10:16 AM - Edit history (1)

The way the article is written, it seems to suggest that universal background checks would have helped in this particular case. Other reports say that he purchased this rifle from a gun shop or dealer, in which case a background check would have been required.

On edit:
The NYT article that they reference says that he purchased several guns in the days prior to the shooting, but they don't provide any details. They also said it's unclear when he bought the rifle he used in the shooting. Other sources have reported that he bought the rifle that he used in the shooting back in July, from a dealer. It's possible that he bought some firearms in private sales, but I haven't seen any reports that he did.

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
6. 68% of all mass shootings are committed with legally purchased
Mon Oct 30, 2023, 09:50 AM
Oct 2023

guns.

These are the "Law Abiding Citizens" whose 'rights' are protected so vociferously by the gun industry.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
8. If he was involuntarily committed to mental health care, he could not have bought firearms "legally"
Mon Oct 30, 2023, 10:10 AM
Oct 2023

after that date. He would have had to lie on his application which would make the purchase unlawful. Like that means anyone who plans to go out in a blaze of homocidial/suicidal "glory."

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