What about this as a solution to the conflict?

[AntivaxHunters]

Something just occured to me.
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What about looking at the solution that brought peace & an end to the conflict in Northern Ireland as a way to end the conflict between Israel & Hamas?

Granted, that was a little before my time but from what I've read there seems to be pretty close parallels between the 2 conflicts & I've not seen anyone bring that conflict up as a path forward to ending all this.

What if this happened in Gaza? 👇🏽

"The conflict in Northern Ireland, often referred to as "The Troubles," officially ended with the signing of the Good Friday Agreement on April 10, 1998. The agreement was a peace deal negotiated between the governments of the United Kingdom and Ireland, as well as the political parties of Northern Ireland, including those representing both unionist and nationalist communities.

The Good Friday Agreement aimed to establish a power-sharing government in Northern Ireland, known as the Northern Ireland Assembly, with representation from both unionist and nationalist parties. It also included provisions for cross-border cooperation between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, as well as addressing issues like disarmament, justice, policing, and human rights.

Following the agreement, paramilitary groups on both sides, such as the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA) and loyalist paramilitaries, gradually disarmed and disbanded. The violence and conflict significantly reduced, and the peace process gained momentum with the establishment of a devolved government in Northern Ireland.

Although sporadic incidents occurred in subsequent years, the Good Friday Agreement marked a significant turning point in the Northern Ireland conflict and laid the foundation for a more peaceful and democratic society in the region."

[Warpy]

1. South Africa did it better

People are still suffering there, but there wasn't a bloodbath once the British army left.

[AntivaxHunters]

3. I've not compared the 3 conflicts

And that certainly sounds like something for me to study.

Thanks Warpy! 🤠

[Torchlight]

2. What is that particular solution referenced?

and how would it be applied to the middle east?

[AntivaxHunters]

4. I updated my post

Unsure if you saw it as I just did it.
What do you think?

[Torchlight]

5. How would this be applied to the middle east?

Given the consequences of the Sikes-Picot Accords, it seems simply a updated imitation of that.

[gab13by13]

6. The only way a one state solution would work

would be if the government was secular, separation of church and state, and that's not going to happen.

[Xavier Breath]

7. If you haven't already seen it, you should do yourself a favor and go watch this great doc

I recently watched on our local PBS affiliate. It's called Once Upon a Time in Northern Ireland, and it is a five episode deep-dive on the conflict as told through archival footage and compelling testimony by participants/survivors on both sides of the conflict.
Seriously, I cannot oversell it.

I was only a few years old when it all started, so I grew up hearing about the violence on the news, but that doc taught me a great deal more about the conflict than I could have imagined.

https://www.pbs.org/show/once-upon-time-northern-ireland/

[AntivaxHunters]

10. Ohhh thank you!

Adding it to my watch list 😀

[Tomconroy]

8. The situations arent comparable.

[BlueCheeseAgain]

9. I don't understand how this analogy is supposed to work.

In the case of Northern Ireland, you had the Republic of Ireland and the United Kingdom. Neither questioned the sovereignty or existence of the other. The fighting was over Northern Ireland, which was internationally recognized as part of the UK. However, Northern Ireland had a significant population that would prefer to be part of the Republic of Ireland.

Who is supposed to be Northern Ireland in the Israel/Palestine conflict? Certainly not Gaza, which is not a mixed area like Northern Ireland was. The entirety of Israel and Palestine? No way. I can't think of a worse idea than pushing Israelis and Palestinians into a forced marriage. Neither side wants that, unless they see it as a stepping stone towards vanquishing the other completely.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

11. Just so I understand

You’re suggesting that the State of Israel have a power sharing agreement with the Palestinians?

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[Jedi Guy]

12. The only semi-permanent solution is a two-state agreement.

And as long as Palestinians cling to the notion that "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free", a two-state solution is not happening. They want it all, meaning the destruction of Israel.

Until they ratchet down that expectation, a two-state solution is impossible and it'll be unending conflict with occasional lulls.

[sarisataka]

13. The first error is concluding the are similar

There were three parties the the conflict, Northern Ireland, Ireland and the UK. The IRA wanted NI to be unified with Ireland.

In the current situation there are only two, Israel and Gaza. Hamas does not want Gaza to be unified with any other country. They want the land that is now Israel.

The IRA never claimed England was an illegal country. If the IRA slogan was "From the Channel to the Atlantic Ireland must be free" they would have goals more akin to Hamas

[AntivaxHunters]

15. There are 3 sides in this conflict too

Israel, Hamas, & the Palestinian Authority.

[sarisataka]

16. Hamas does not recognize the PA

As the Palestinian government because they believe in coexistence with Israel.

And that unaddressed point is still the key difference.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

19. I'm sure Israel

will be eager to share power with Hamas in governing Israel.

[TheRealNorth]

14. Neither side wants to share power

Hamas is okay to continue killing and Israel doesn't want to allow what would be a Palestinian majority to have a say in the government.

[Hekate]

17. 500 miles of tunnels under Gaza begs to differ

[moonshinegnomie]

18. nothing should be done until hamas is wiped from the earth

they are no better than isis
until they are gone there can be no solution