Protesters at White House call for elimination of Jewish state

[sarisataka]

Protesters at White House call for elimination of Jewish state

A crowd of protesters from a pro-Palestinian rally earlier today in Washington have marched to the gate of the White House, where they are filmed chanting, “We don’t want a Jewish state. We want ‘48!”

The chant is a reference to the year 1948, when five Arab armies attacked the fledgling state of Israel seeking its destruction.

A group of protesters dip their hands in red paint and smear the concrete posts along the White House outer fence to symbolize blood being shed in Gaza.

Tens of thousands of people participated in today’s rally at Freedom Square near the White House.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/protesters-at-white-house-call-for-elimination-of-jewish-state/

[NCIndie]

1. Wow. That is remarkably horrid.

And we wonder why the Middle East has been in conflict for the entirety of recorded history.

[Hekate]

2. Aww, listen to those chants for peace. These people mean no harm to Israel...

All they want is 5 Arab armies attacking at once, like in “48”

Peace, peace. A piece of this and a piece of that, and pretty soon Israeli bodies in pieces all over.

[kelly1mm]

25. Or, as Dolph Lundgren so famously said 'I come in peace, you go in pieces' link below

[Abolishinist]

32. I wonder who organized this,

as many of the protesters were bussed in from other states.

[sarisataka]

41. Article says it was organized

By several different pro-Palestinian organizations

[TheProle]

46. :

[Maru Kitteh]

3. Oh, but they're *just supporting Palestinians* I'm told. They're not antisemitic, I'm supposed to

believe. NOBODY sympathizes with Hamas, not regular people, I hear over and over.

I hope the red paint ruins their clothes and makes them sick.

[Richard D]

4. Now it becomes clear . . .

. . . why Israel has such a powerful military. Antisemitism never goes fully away and is always lurking in the cess pits to rear it's head and kill Jews.

[Mossfern]

5. My son lives in DC

I'll ask him what went on and what he hears in his neighborhood.
He is not near the White House.

Basically what they were chanting for was "genocide" with a little "g".
Maybe more like ethnic cleansing.
Exactly what they were protesting against.

SMH

[madaboutharry]

6. Next week they will be chanting:

"Let's have another Holocaust!"
No one should have any doubt what this is about. People hate Jews and only will like them if they are dead.
I give up on looking for basic goodness in people.

[Jedi Guy]

7. To all those who were chanting such things, I have only this to say in response...

[FalloutShelter]

30. My sentiments exactly.

[Walleye]

8. I just see this as more performance politics, it doesn't solve anything

[Igel]

10. It is,

but there are performances that are especially horrible and condemnation-worthy.

When the goal is a moral obligation, expecting somebody to abandon the goal is not wise.

We learned that lesson in 1918 and in 1945. Germany wasn't defeated; it was frustrated and that frustration at being better and yet humiliated resulted in another war. After defeat, where the spirit of the German people and their aspirations to power was broken, rebuilding could happen. At that point the residue of Nazis didn't much matter--they got scant traction, little buy in, Germans acknowledged that they had been wrong and didn't want to go that way again.

People have lamented that many in the South after the Civil War felt not defeated, but betrayed and humiliated, even if if it didn't result in another bloodbath.

Hamas will be defeated when it tries to recruit fighters and gets few takers but is reduced to little more than a Gazan equivalent of the Baader-Meinhof gang.

That way would prove to be very, very bloody--convince the Palestinians the wrongness of their cause, '48!'--but to adopt a cause that is achievable without genocide. Israel will have to trust that Palestinians, when Hamaas stages a massacre to derail a deterioration of their likely support, don't bake Hamas; Palestinians will have to accept that Israelis are negotiating in good faith. Both will have to accept compromises and both will have to rein in their zealots convincingly, with acceptance that this won't be done in an afternoon and that some of both sides will die as each side imposes the majority view or at least peaceful coexistence on both sides.

[Maru Kitteh]

21. It can't be allowed to pass in silence, or it will become part of a new "final solution."

That would solve something, for antisemites.

[Bettie]

9. That is not appropriate

however, there should be an independent Palestinian state as well.

[Jedi Guy]

11. Peculiar how this thread sank like a rock, isn't it? Very peculiar indeed... N/T

[Jedi Guy]

11. Peculiar how this thread sank like a rock, isn't it? Very peculiar indeed... N/T

[PCIntern]

13. These apologists for the antisemites

selectively ignore the true genocidal bigotry of the “pro-Palestinian movement”. This is why the Israelis do what they do. They know what would await them if they truly let their guard down.

[Jedi Guy]

49. Yup. If Israel were so foolish as to put down their guns, there would be no more Israel.

After all, it's not as if their neighbors haven't tried it before. It just hasn't worked out so well for them every time they've tried. The principle of "Fuck around and find out" has been around for much, much longer than the catchy saying itself.

[Cha]

16. Rec. I'm here

To kick it 🕯️🕊️💙🌊

[Wingus Dingus]

18. Maybe we should feel lucky that nobody's trying to gaslight us

in this thread about the meaning of what they're saying, or telling us they don't really mean it.

[Cha]

23. Rec.. to get word out anyway. TY

[underpants]

27. This was not good for us. Not a good look at all.

[Mossfern]

14. I'm wondering

If those young people who were demonstrating calling for genocide or ethnic cleansing etc. will look back on their behavior when they age and regret how they acted that night. I put it to a failure of education, social pressure and lack of critical thinking. Many were manipulated and got caught up in the 'thrill of the moment.'
I think it's a societal issue for the most part.

Personally, when I'm faced with a difficult choice, I ask myself if I will regret it in the future.

Am Yisrael Chai!

[betsuni]

26. Yes, social pressure, lack of critical thinking. It's trendy. Assumption of being right, feeling over thinking.

[xmas74]

45. A friend said her 20something child

And child's friends are all self proclaimed leftists who've made comments about chasing the Jews out of Palestine. They don't believe Israel should exist and they're mouthing trendy things from Tiktok. She asked a few questions and quickly realized they had absolutely no idea about any of the history of the Middle East nor did they care.
Supposedly several creators all over social media are using current actions to convince our youth that there was no Holocaust.

It's disturbing.

[Mossfern]

47. Social media

will be the death of society.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

48. I reached a similar conclusion reading and posting in a WaPo article on the same

The pro-Palestinian side's lack of historical knowledge was rather mind boggling.

[Cha]

15. Fuck them then

[LiberalFighter]

17. Bet Jared Kushner and Stephen Miller organized it.

[Mossfern]

19. What is that supposed to mean?

Are you calling it a false flag?

[madaboutharry]

20. Are you accusing Jews of staging a false flag incident?

Do you think Jews are shouting that slogan to make other protesters look bad?

Excuse my French, but that is a fucked up thing to post.

[PCIntern]

22. Yup...

Anything when faced with the truth

[EllieBC]

24. So every one of those protesters is a moron

who fell for something?

Any conspiracy theory to keep from admitting that Jew haters have a home in some leftist corners.

[Behind the Aegis]

38. I have heard this before, but where? Oh yes!

[EllieBC]

39. Nothing much changes.

Decade after decade we are reminded to trust no one.

[sarisataka]

42. I would not bet much on that

But it is far from the first "hidden hand" accusation tossed out.

[betsuni]

28. K&R

[Hekate]

29. KnR

[Sugarcoated]

31. Oh, jeez

How bizarre

[elocs]

33. Antisemitism evidently is what unites the right which is wrong with those who call themselves part of the Left.

Who needs Nazis when you have this bunch.
There will be no winners in this conflict and the Palestinians of Gaza will surely be the main losers.
Gaza has been the world's largest outdoor concentration camp with a generation who have been born and grew up there with no hope. It's been a disaster waiting to happen and now it has.
Israel became complacent under Netanyahu, depending on technology rather than boots on the ground Intel. Hamas infiltrates and attacks Israel on a Jewish holiday--who could ever anticipate that happening? Maybe those who remember 1973.

[Aussie105]

34. The answer to violence

isn't to call for more violence.

I'm just waiting for someone to propose a workable solution.
I have one in mind, but the world isn't ready for it yet.

[EllieBC]

35. Where oh where are all the supporters of the protests?

Busy finding a way to spin this?

[Jedi Guy]

36. It's just a call for peace and liberation. They're not calling for violence at all. Don't be silly.

[EllieBC]

37. Sounds legit.

I don’t know whether to laugh or cry that they think they are fooling anyone.

[Nanjeanne]

40. That's disgraceful. As is this . . .

Link to tweet

?s=20]

There will always be videos of people saying the wrong thing, advocating for the wrong thing.



And there will be others who believe in healing, light and peace. But those don't get as many responses.

[sarisataka]

44. Yes that is disgraceful

There will always be people who cannot simply say "I condemn calls for genocide".

Whatabout Avenue has a One Way Street sign

[ripcord]

43. The sad thing is that when companies start firing protestors for hate speech

There will be some here defending them and telling us how wrong that is.