'Trump has become more detached from reality': ABC host raises alarm as election nears

[LetMyPeopleVote]

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TFG has been showing signs of senility for some time and this detachment from reality is getting worse.

Link to tweet

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-detached-reality/

During the ABC "This Week" roundtable panel discussion on poll numbers matching up President Joe Biden against presumptive GOP 2024 presidential nominee Donald Trump, host Jonathan Karl complained that there has not been near enough attention paid to the mental decline of Trump......

"Trump, since he left the White House, and this is really the theme of my book, has become more detached from reality than he ever was even in the White House," he claimed.

To make his case, he continued, "If you think of where we were in January of 2021, that's the starting point for where a Trump presidency would be next time around. So I think he's had largely, believe it or not, a free ride. Again, the criminal cases we know about, but what he's thinking, what he's doing, he had a speech just the other day in Texas where he referred to the people that are in prison because they attacked the U.S. Capitol and beat up police officers, he called them not prisoners but hostages."

"Trump has become also increasingly confused about things. He sometimes he thinks that he lost to [Barack] Obama in the last election," he offered. "He confuses basic facts and says some rather strange things, but there isn't much attention paid. As we get closer to these primaries, we'll see where not just Trump is based on these criminal cases, but where he is now as a human being."

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[wnylib]

1. The reference to the J6 prisoners as hostages

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is not evidence of Trump losing touch with reality. He is using the word hostages for effect on his followers, not because he actually believes it, but because calling them that riles his base.

[underpants]

29. He's following MTG on that. You are right. Also the Obama references

are normal talk radio content “This is Obama’s third term” is a constant theme.

[LisaM]

40. Not only that....

Three Jeopardy finalists the other night could not name the first presidential election since 1952 where the candidates didn't include a former President or Vice President. They all missed it. So how is Trump supposed to know who he ran against if Jeopardy finalists can't even go back to 2008?

[prodigitalson]

42. obama humiliating him at the correspondents dinner was why he ran so in his head he's always been running against obama

[flashman13]

39. If he had just wanted to rile, the right phrase would have been "Political Prisoners".

Terrorists take hostages. I'm sure tRump has heard the word multiple times and so he opens his mouth and out pops "hostages". A "weaponized Justice Department", his go to insult, would be arresting political prisoners. If tRump were to be reelected, that is what you would see. Not to worry. He will be a babbling, drooling idiot long before next November.

[Snarkoleptic]

2. Either he's drinking his own kool aide, or trying to set up an insanity plea.

This clip is bonkers!
He claims to have won all 50-States-

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[Disaffected]

3. I believe he was referring to the primaries that

preceded the election (he said "...and then we did great in the election" ).

He may well be bonkers alright but this appears not to be an example.

[niyad]

25. Except that four states did NOT HAVE puke primaries.

KS. NV. SC. AZ. one cannot win a primary that did not happen.

[Disaffected]

27. Sounds like another

distinction without a difference(?).

[niyad]

28. No, accuracy is important. But keep trying.

[Disaffected]

31. What about pointless nitpicking?

Is that important?

[niyad]

43. Depends on who is defining pointless. Like I said, keep trying.

I can use the laughs.

[Disaffected]

44. And some sense.

[Arthur_Frain]

5. This is why his handlers don't want him in any debates.

Without his tittering mob to prop him up his debate performance will fall flat on its face.

[anarch]

15. I guess, but...

he could just stand there drooling and shit his pants, maybe make some kind of noises like a baboon, and his core supporters would still be all "yes! that's our guy!"

[Arthur_Frain]

17. Every weakness put on display potentially loses him support.

They like a strongman, and despite claims of “gotcha” questions, widely distributed public humiliation would be kryptonite to his poll numbers.

He may eventually regain some of that later on down the line, the mobs memory is pretty piss poor. But I think he might have lost enough wits to make it a real difficulty for him to focus well enough to make it through a debate.

You could argue walking out of the debate on live television in a huff after some supposed slight would supercharge his base, but at that point, I think that base is a pretty insignificant number with respect to winning elections.

[lastlib]

21. Right. Because when you strip him down to his Depends....

(sorry for that mental image. Here:
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...he's one of them. Drooling, farting, shitting his pants, making noises like a baboon, from which he is not far removed....

[WiVoter]

20. What Are The Chances He Will Skip The GE Debates?

Just wondering.

[lastlib]

22. I suspect that, if it's Biden vs. AnusMouth, there won't be debates.

Biden won't want to give cred to a (by then) convicted felon or be part of the freakshow that Anus represents, and AnusMouth would refuse to be on the stage with Joe. I just don't see debates between those two happening. My 2cts.

[durablend]

6. Of course they're paying no attention to it

How better to get a feeble idiot in office to do their (media/rich people) business.

[Aristus]

7. I don't know that he ever actually was attached to reality, but whatever.

n/t

[NBachers]

8. Good! Let him stay in the race, win the primaries, and completely decompose on the campaign Trail, when it's

too late to replace him.

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

9. Or while in office

[ShazzieB]

34. While in office? 😱

No, no, no. He must not EVER be allowed anywhere near the White Hoyse again. He could do irreparable damage to this country in a very brief amount of time.

Among other things, he would doubtless be surrounded by toadies and sycophants who would onstantly cover for him and clean up any messes he makes as fast as he makes them. Those toadies would be chosen for their support of his agenda of turning the U.S. into a fascist dictatorship, and they would do their best to make that happen.

I know that right now he looks like a shoo-in to win the GOP candidacy, and I also know that we are constantly being bombarded by polls of questionable accuracy that paint him as leading over Biden. But we must not allow ourselves to be distracted by any of that. Our job, as Democrats, is to GOTV and make sure Biden wins.

Trump must NOT be allowed to win in November. That way lies disaster. That's all there is to it.

[ShepKat]

10. chronic long term use of ritalin kills brain cells

it was just a matter of time

[DFW]

11. Yes, but....

Doesn’t this make the perfect candidate for his party?

[lastlib]

23. (see post 21 above....) n/t

[Hekate]

12. KnR

[Lonestarblue]

13. Since I don't watch Fox News, I have a question about his rallies.

The last time I saw a photo of him giving a speech, he was leaning heavily on the lectern as if he needed it to support himself. Does the media ever show any video of him walking into a venue these days? After that episode where he had trouble walking down a ramp and looked scared, has the media been barred from access to show his current physical condition?

[dmr]

37. Good question.

I'd like to know that answer.

[PortTack]

14. But but a year from now....according to the "polls" he's going to win....bull crap!

[Takket]

16. At this point I'm far more concerned with how far detached from reality the electorate is than drumpf.

[Cosmocat]

35. Yep

nm

[Stuart G]

18. If Trump runs, this will be a major issue...(not talked about enough, but a subdued major issue)..among many people.

[UTUSN]

19. Well, Jon KARL swings away from his wingnut self when he's got a new book.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

24. LOL

Well, keep wishing he's senile, because he's not. He's only doing what any malignant narcissist does when he feels besieged--sling anything at the wall to see what will get people off his back.

I keep telling people that these people will say and do *A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G* if they're challenged or thwarted. I've even used the deeply painful and personal example of my "normal" narcissist mother calling me ugly and fat, therefore too stupid to listen to when she was losing an argument to try to show how they operate.

TFG is doing the *SAME THING,* and it's the *SAME THING* he has been doing for decades--attacking anyone who disagrees with him. He does not care if what he says makes sense. He doesn't care if it's a lie. He doesn't even care if it sounds unhinged. He says whatever can come to him *in the moment* to shut up the other person and reassert his mistaken sense of superiority.

Later, after he gets flack over it, he'll say it was a joke, or even that people lied about what he said, but *in the moment* of when he and his fragile ego feels threatened, he will say whatever can shut people up and restore his shallow pride.

This is what narcissists *do.*

[getagrip_already]

26. from today's ny fraud trial (he is on the stand giving testimony)

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[brush]

30. Stephanopolis and other pundits keep pushing the "Bideh is losing popularity to trump with Black voters" meme...

coming from a recent NYT poll. I call BS on that as I'm African-American and know better from conversations of disgust at such a notion with family, friends and associates.

That's like suggesting that white magat men are suddenly supporting Nancy Pelosi for president.

It's ridiculous. The same bs meme was circulating in 2020 and some Dems even were critiquing some Black men, while Black men were support Dem candidates at the second highest level of any demo segment...88%, while Black women of course were supporting Dems at a 95% rate.

And that was coming from some demo segments who weren't anywhere close to those levets of support.

[ificandream]

32. I think this stuff will become more of an issue if Dumpf gets nominated.

The only reason why Biden's age is an issue is because he's the only choice on the Democrats' side.

[Hassler]

33. No doubt ABC will soon reassign Karl

[Cha]

36. Mary Trump Tweet on Traitor.. pic

Link to tweet

[Blue Owl]

38. Ooooh this oughta be good!!!

[Cha]

41. Yes It Should!.. hope we see a follow up..

That last pic is emblematic of traitor whether it's photoshopped or not.