Israel Quietly Pushed for Egypt to Admit Large Numbers of Gazans

[David__77]

The idea has also been firmly rejected by Palestinians, who fear that Israel is using the war — which began on Oct. 7 after terrorists from Gaza raided Israel and killed roughly 1,400 people — to permanently displace the more than two million people living in Gaza.

More than 700,000 Palestinians either fled or were expelled from their homes in what is now Israel during the war surrounding the creation of the state in 1948. Many of their descendants are now warning that the current war will end with a similar “nakba,” or catastrophe, as the 1948 migration is known in Arabic.

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“Egypt has affirmed and reiterated its complete rejection of the forced displacement of Palestinians and their exodus to Egyptian lands in Sinai, as this is nothing but a final liquidation of the Palestinian cause,” Mr. el-Sisi said in a speech published on his website.

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Some Israeli hard-liners advocate keeping control of Gaza and permanently expelling its Palestinian residents. A Likud lawmaker, Ariel Kallner, has called for another nakba that would “overshadow” the original mass displacement in 1948.

https://web.archive.org/web/20231106010620/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/05/world/middleeast/israel-egypt-gaza.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/05/world/middleeast/israel-egypt-gaza.html#:~:text=Israeli%20leaders%20and%20diplomats%20have,the%20border%20in%20neighboring%20Egypt.

[MOMFUDSKI]

1. That was the Kushner Peace Plan. If that

didn’t fly it was complete annihalation. We are in the midst of the second option.

[David__77]

2. Annihilation is an appropriate description. An unfolding annihilation.

[Beastly Boy]

3. Israel unilaterally disengaged fom Gaza in 2005 because... they wanted to displace the Palestinians

from Gaza in 2023. A brilliant plan! ( )

In what demented version of reality does this make sense?

[David__77]

4. Do you think the information in the article is incorrect?

[Beastly Boy]

5. Let's say that the information in the article calls for speculation.

A hell of a lot of speculation, a hell of a lot of it not making much sense, on the part of a hell of a lot of people.

[David__77]

6. The days and weeks ahead will clarify much, for sure.

There is the strategic question of what, if any, obligations, does Israel have for the ability of the Gaza people to remain alive in the longer term.

[Beastly Boy]

10. In the mean time, incindiary speculations on the matter are willfully misleading

[Mossfern]

7. These days news

also includes speculations and opinions.
I remember when the news was just facts.
Yeah, I'm that old.

I miss Walter. The only time I saw him express emotion regarding the news was at the
1968 Democratic Convention in Chicago.

[David__77]

8. The schism on display during that convention is still here today.

[Mossfern]

9. So far

not the brutality of Daily's police .

[Nanjeanne]

11. Holocaust Historian, Raz Segal, had a very interesting piece in Jewish Currents.

https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide]

A Textbook Case of Genocide

Israel’s campaign to displace Gazans—and potentially expel them altogether into Egypt—is yet another chapter in the Nakba, in which an estimated 750,000 Palestinians were driven from their homes during the 1948 war that led to the creation of the State of Israel. But the assault on Gaza can also be understood in other terms: as a textbook case of genocide unfolding in front of our eyes. I say this as a scholar of genocide, who has spent many years writing about Israeli mass violence against Palestinians. I have written about settler colonialism and Jewish supremacy in Israel, the distortion of the Holocaust to boost the Israeli arms industry, the weaponization of antisemitism accusations to justify Israeli violence against Palestinians, and the racist regime of Israeli apartheid. Now, following Hamas’s attack on Saturday and the mass murder of more than 1,000 Israeli civilians, the worst of the worst is happening.

Under international law, the crime of genocide is defined by “the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such,” as noted in the December 1948 UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. In its murderous attack on Gaza, Israel has loudly proclaimed this intent. Israeli Minister of Defense Yoav Gallant declared it in no uncertain terms on October 9th: “We are imposing a complete siege on Gaza. No electricity, no food, no water, no fuel. Everything is closed. We are fighting human animals, and we will act accordingly.” Leaders in the West reinforced this racist rhetoric by describing Hamas’s mass murder of Israeli civilians—a war crime under international law that rightly provoked horror and shock in Israel and around the world—as “an act of sheer evil,” in the words of US President Joe Biden, or as a move that reflected an “ancient evil,” in the terminology of President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen. This dehumanizing language is clearly calculated to justify the wide scale destruction of Palestinian lives; the assertion of “evil,” in its absolutism, elides distinctions between Hamas militants and Gazan civilians, and occludes the broader context of colonization and occupation.

Click link above to read whole article - for those interested in more than a tweet.

Raz Segal is one of many voices worth reading. I'd also suggest (for those who might be looking for voices that feel as they do): Sari Bashi, Program Director of Human Rights Watch - an Israeli Jew married to a Palestinian. And Amira Hass, daughter of Holocause survivors, journalist who writes for Haaretz.

[leftstreet]

12. +1

Thanks for posting this