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Tom of Temecula

(1,632 posts)
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 02:19 PM Nov 2023

Letitia James seen 'visibly cackling' at Trump insult from witness stand

New York Attorney General Letitia James burst into laughter at one of Donald Trump's insults during his testimony in a $250 million fraud lawsuit.

The former president was asked about the value of his heavily mortgaged Trump Building at 40 Wall Street, and he told prosecutor Kevin Wallace that he had invested heavily in the 72-story skyscraper before taking a swipe at the attorney general. "I spent a lot of money on fixing the building up," Trump testified. "She doesn't even know what 40 Wall Street is."

James was "visibly cackling" after Trump's remark, according to reporters in the courtroom, and she briefly put her head down to compose herself. The attorney general's office is next door to the Trump Building, and James pointed that out in a post on her X account.

"Don’t tell, I can see it from my office window," she posted.

https://www.rawstory.com/letitia-james-donald-trump-2666165112/

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Letitia James seen 'visibly cackling' at Trump insult from witness stand (Original Post) Tom of Temecula Nov 2023 OP
"cackling"??? interesting sublim there, rawstory. niyad Nov 2023 #1
Thought The Same ProfessorGAC Nov 2023 #2
Or deliberate? niyad Nov 2023 #3
Really a poor choice of words PatSeg Nov 2023 #5
who cackles? Stardust Mirror Nov 2023 #6
So true. Men are almost never described as "cackling." Sky Jewels Nov 2023 #30
Poof! Stardust Mirror Nov 2023 #32
But there are kharmic penalties for advancing life forms. niyad Nov 2023 #43
No need to get your feathers ruffled just because the author laid an egg. jaxexpat Nov 2023 #12
No need for ruffled feathers just because the author laid an egg. jaxexpat Nov 2023 #13
Really?? The person made an intentionally sexist, offensive niyad Nov 2023 #56
Only if you can endure the offensive weight of it. jaxexpat Nov 2023 #62
I use cackle a lot. Usually when I'm saying EllieBC Nov 2023 #18
Difference is you use it to describe yourself... Caliman73 Nov 2023 #19
Good point. EllieBC Nov 2023 #21
"visibly chuckling" would be neutral. "Cackling" is rather pejorative. SharonAnn Nov 2023 #24
Was just going to say that Sugarcoated Nov 2023 #33
Cackling like a chicken or a witch. It is meant to be a pejorative and a nasty fucking swipe at an officer of the court. SoFlaBro Nov 2023 #25
It means she was being polite in that she didn't fall out of her seat in hysterics. flashman13 Nov 2023 #31
it was from another site's reporter Celerity Nov 2023 #38
It does give a negative connotation xmas74 Nov 2023 #40
Exactly my reaction relayerbob Nov 2023 #41
Yep redqueen Nov 2023 #49
Cackling? WTF? MineralMan Nov 2023 #4
Same here. LiberalFighter Nov 2023 #8
Yes, obviously demeaning Windicator Nov 2023 #10
I'm convinced that there are no more editors in the world. OMGWTF Nov 2023 #23
it is a quote from another site's reporter Celerity Nov 2023 #39
So what? MineralMan Nov 2023 #46
because some seem to think the wording was made up by Raw Story Celerity Nov 2023 #48
So, you're a fan of Raw Story. MineralMan Nov 2023 #50
I would not say 'fan'. They are just a left-leaning site that sometimes I find to be of worth, sometimes not. Celerity Nov 2023 #52
We all understood that. That rawstory let it stand is what niyad Nov 2023 #54
I believe that some here think it was an editorial turn of phrase made up by Raw Story. Celerity Nov 2023 #57
Ahhh, understood. niyad Nov 2023 #58
"Raw Story" is what it is, best taken with grains of salt. Meanwhile Tish James... brush Nov 2023 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2023 #9
Note to Raw Story: get a damn Roget's Thesaurus. Then the women you write about... Hekate Nov 2023 #11
("Thesaurus"?!? Ain't they 'xtinct??!?) lastlib Nov 2023 #15
The last copy editor was stabbed to death with a blue pencil by an AI-instructed bot. Sad. Hekate Nov 2023 #16
Indeed. lastlib Nov 2023 #17
And to think that I nearly drowned ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #27
I have a thesaurus I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2023 #61
Actually, I still have mine from college, so it's over 40 years old! lastlib Nov 2023 #63
I was going to suggest Chortle. maxsolomon Nov 2023 #26
Many of us laugh at Trump's idiotic insults IronLionZion Nov 2023 #14
Actually I like the witchy vibe orangecrush Nov 2023 #20
It's tempting to agree with this perspective. ariadne0614 Nov 2023 #35
Me Too, Always Did RobinA Nov 2023 #53
Understand completely orangecrush Nov 2023 #59
This "cackling" remark is meant to invoke disrespect Deuxcents Nov 2023 #22
Actually, MorbidButterflyTat Nov 2023 #28
They give a tweet by Adam Klasfeld as their source. sl8 Nov 2023 #44
Let's face it -- tRump is a cartoonish 76-year-old toddler who EVERYONE should be pointing & laughing at Blue Owl Nov 2023 #29
Some random thoughts on Trump AverageOldGuy Nov 2023 #34
Tasty mkassowitz Nov 2023 #36
trump cares so little about his property mercuryblues Nov 2023 #37
If Trump can squawk, James can cackle Rocknation Nov 2023 #42
I bet she just smiled and shook her head and maybe rolled her eyes a bit SpankMe Nov 2023 #45
Got as far as describing her as 'cackling'. There is NO positive connotation to SaveOurDemocracy Nov 2023 #47
So our group is supposed to be perfect for every second while GreenWave Nov 2023 #51
I seriously doubt that AG James behaved in such an niyad Nov 2023 #55
Agree with others about the "cackling" BS ecstatic Nov 2023 #60

ProfessorGAC

(76,704 posts)
2. Thought The Same
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 02:27 PM
Nov 2023

One person is leveling an objectively stupid insult, and the target gets the negative descriptor?
Poor form for the author.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
5. Really a poor choice of words
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 02:36 PM
Nov 2023

I think it might have been intentional to get people to click on the story. Meanwhile, I can't imagine using such a word to describe a man's laughter.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
30. So true. Men are almost never described as "cackling."
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 04:09 PM
Nov 2023

This pisses me off.

I might have to use my Female Witchy Powers to cast some spells and turn these people into newts and frogs.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
12. No need to get your feathers ruffled just because the author laid an egg.
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 03:02 PM
Nov 2023

Pu-quawk sake, guys.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
13. No need for ruffled feathers just because the author laid an egg.
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 03:04 PM
Nov 2023

Pu-quawk sake, guys.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
56. Really?? The person made an intentionally sexist, offensive
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 07:16 PM
Nov 2023

comment, and we are supposed to ignore it??

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
62. Only if you can endure the offensive weight of it.
Wed Nov 8, 2023, 10:21 AM
Nov 2023

Have you invented an offense? Do you have the power of divination or the righteousness to condemn without evidence? Perhaps my hide is toughened but I found no offensiveness. I thought the term in question playful and unserious. Just the sort of term one might use to dismiss officiousness or critique a performer whose skills, however evident, lack humor. I don't buy this occasion to be too problematic and won't succumb to groupthink or be bullied into obeisance to pretend it is. Not sure which "we" you refer, though. I take it as good advise to confirm one's ranks are as closed as they might be at the warden's whistle and certainly prior to charging into some bloody no man's land.

EllieBC

(3,639 posts)
18. I use cackle a lot. Usually when I'm saying
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 03:18 PM
Nov 2023

I was laughing at something someone said ir did that was stupid.

“I cackled at the idiot shipper who asked that question at the fancon this weekend.”

“We were cackling over Ivanka pretending she actually parents her kids and can’t testify during the week because she has to take them school.”

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
19. Difference is you use it to describe yourself...
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 03:26 PM
Nov 2023

When I make a mistake I say, "I'm an idiot". When someone else makes a mistake I say, "You know what, people make mistakes..."

Cackling has specific negative connotations. Villains cackle, witches cackle. James could have been "laughing" or even "cracking up".

It was a very poor choice of words and if deliberate, extremely inappropriate.

EllieBC

(3,639 posts)
21. Good point.
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 03:30 PM
Nov 2023

I think the only person I’ve applied to to was a friend and again it was when they were laughing at something someone else did that was stupid.

Sugarcoated

(8,240 posts)
33. Was just going to say that
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 05:24 PM
Nov 2023

Chuckling is the word that'd be more accurate, I say it a lot on social media and in real life

SoFlaBro

(3,790 posts)
25. Cackling like a chicken or a witch. It is meant to be a pejorative and a nasty fucking swipe at an officer of the court.
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 03:45 PM
Nov 2023

xmas74

(30,058 posts)
40. It does give a negative connotation
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 11:26 PM
Nov 2023

But if I had been in the courtroom and she actually cackled? I'd join in.
I'm proud to be a cackler when I laugh, no matter how much others put it down.

Windicator

(157 posts)
10. Yes, obviously demeaning
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 02:59 PM
Nov 2023

even if the RAW writer is a MAGAt with a cursor as seems to be the case,
a decent editor would have screamed at this intentional slur and cut it out.

MineralMan

(151,269 posts)
46. So what?
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 12:07 PM
Nov 2023

Raw Story doesn't actually report the news based on its own reporting. I just parrots other people's reporting. And it does that with no discrimination at all. That's why I don't ever use Raw Story as a source for anything.

Celerity

(54,407 posts)
48. because some seem to think the wording was made up by Raw Story
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 01:59 PM
Nov 2023
Raw Story doesn't actually report the news based on its own reporting.


Whilst it does aggregate other sites a lot, it also has its own reporters:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_Story#Awards_and_recognition

snip

In 2021, a Raw Story report by Daniel Newhauser broke the story on South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem's use of the state airplane for non-official purposes, which resulted in criminal investigations. The investigative reporting was a finalist for a 2022 Society of Professional Journalists award which "honors a journalist or news organization for outstanding use of public records in reporting or advocacy of rights such as press freedom and public access."

In 2022, Raw Story won the first place EPPY Award in the category "Best news/political blog (1 million or more unique visitors)" for its opinion piece by Dakota Adams, son of Oath Keepers' founder Stewart Rhodes, titled "How I left the far right". The article described how Adams became disillusioned with the anti-government militia group in the later days of the Trump administration.

In 2023, Raw Story investigative reporter Jordan Green won the Fair Media Council's Folio award for his coverage of the January 6, 2021 US Capitol riot.

Reception

Major media outlets have called Raw Story an investigative news site, progressive, left-leaning, independent, and an alternative news site. Raw Story has performed exclusive interviews, investigative reporting, and has broken many stories. Raw Story articles have been recognized by Columbia Journalism Review and the Associated Press, and been mentioned by other news agencies such as Reuters. Raw Story primarily aggregates stories from around the web.

snip

Celerity

(54,407 posts)
52. I would not say 'fan'. They are just a left-leaning site that sometimes I find to be of worth, sometimes not.
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 02:42 PM
Nov 2023

niyad

(132,440 posts)
54. We all understood that. That rawstory let it stand is what
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 07:12 PM
Nov 2023

pissed people off, certainly me.

I agree that they do have good moments, sometimes breaking important news. Their aggregations can be good starting points.

Celerity

(54,407 posts)
57. I believe that some here think it was an editorial turn of phrase made up by Raw Story.
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 07:21 PM
Nov 2023

That's why I posted my original reply.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
7. "Raw Story" is what it is, best taken with grains of salt. Meanwhile Tish James...
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 02:46 PM
Nov 2023

and Fani Willis are making national names for themselves as potential candidates for higher office because of their strong performances on their respective cases.

Response to Tom of Temecula (Original post)

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
11. Note to Raw Story: get a damn Roget's Thesaurus. Then the women you write about...
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 03:00 PM
Nov 2023

Note to Raw Story: get a damn Roget’s Thesaurus. Then the women you write about…

…can chuckle, chortle, giggle, grin, snort with laughter, snicker, crow, guffaw, or even roflmao.



lastlib

(28,264 posts)
15. ("Thesaurus"?!? Ain't they 'xtinct??!?)
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 03:08 PM
Nov 2023




Is there another word for "thesaurus"?
(oh, yeah...."google".......)

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
16. The last copy editor was stabbed to death with a blue pencil by an AI-instructed bot. Sad.
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 03:13 PM
Nov 2023
 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
27. And to think that I nearly drowned
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 04:01 PM
Nov 2023

In a sea of Sheaffer's Red when my American Literature teacher in secondary school marked up my papers.

And I was one of her favorite students that year. Some of my classmates might as well have written their assignments on red paper.

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,369 posts)
61. I have a thesaurus
Wed Nov 8, 2023, 02:15 AM
Nov 2023

A big honking one and sometimes I read it for fun.pick a word at random and see how many ways to say it.

There is a thesaurus for the erudite just might buy it for giggles n shits.

lastlib

(28,264 posts)
63. Actually, I still have mine from college, so it's over 40 years old!
Wed Nov 8, 2023, 10:29 AM
Nov 2023

I doubt I've used it 5 times since college--I have a good enough vocabulary that I can usually find the right word that I need without it. And I write and speak a lot.

IronLionZion

(51,268 posts)
14. Many of us laugh at Trump's idiotic insults
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 03:05 PM
Nov 2023

"Cackling" evokes images of a witch or something negative.

orangecrush

(30,261 posts)
20. Actually I like the witchy vibe
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 03:30 PM
Nov 2023

Witches are a symbol of dark feminine power.

And it is poetic justice that a woman is bringing down this misogynistic narcissist.

ariadne0614

(2,174 posts)
35. It's tempting to agree with this perspective.
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 05:47 PM
Nov 2023

Alas, it is one that the intended audience isn’t likely to grok.

RobinA

(10,478 posts)
53. Me Too, Always Did
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 04:31 PM
Nov 2023

The witches in fairy tales were always my favorite because they had the power, which I had recognized without knowing what I was seeing since I was a fairly young kid. I always wanted to be the one with the flying monkeys at my disposal, not the little girl from Kansas.

Deuxcents

(26,915 posts)
22. This "cackling" remark is meant to invoke disrespect
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 03:30 PM
Nov 2023

Farm yard hens “cackle “..witches and diabolical creatures in the movies “cackle “. Someone needs a new editor who demands responsible “journalism “

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,512 posts)
28. Actually,
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 04:05 PM
Nov 2023

this article is quoting unnamed "reporters in the courtroom."

This whole circus is so sickening.

The mini-Melanoma-wanna-be with her overly Botoxed face that looks like a ventriloquist dummy crying and insulting the judge outside the courtroom; the other giant foreheaded jerkoff telling the judge he controls his courtroom after the judge asked him to control Slobby; and of course the elderly spoiled brat who has respect for nothing and knows nothing.

And I don't believe for a nano second that it's some strategic maneuver to act like a rabid baby to make the judge explode in anger, which I suppose would accomplish....what, exactly? It's just that scummy criminal filth doing what he always does, no "strategy."

"Cackling," sure. It wasn't even funny.

sl8

(17,110 posts)
44. They give a tweet by Adam Klasfeld as their source.
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 11:41 AM
Nov 2023

Still, it was Raw Story's choice to use it in their article and in their headline.


Blue Owl

(59,104 posts)
29. Let's face it -- tRump is a cartoonish 76-year-old toddler who EVERYONE should be pointing & laughing at
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 04:09 PM
Nov 2023

NOBODY should be taking this idiotic buffoon seriously....

AverageOldGuy

(3,835 posts)
34. Some random thoughts on Trump
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 05:46 PM
Nov 2023

How about we stop saying the he is being treated differently because of who he is? In fact, he is who he is BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN TREATED DIFFERENTLY ALL HIS USELESS LIFE. Trump is a shitstain on society. He has contributed nothing of value to anyone but himself and that value is vastly overstated.

Stop it with "the poor, poor Trump children." For God's sake, they are 40-year-old adults with families and with millions upon millions in the bank -- much of which they will lose when the NY trial ends. As Hyman Roth said in Godfather II: "This is the life we have chosen."

Hang in there everyone until Nov 6, 2024, the day after the election. He will lose, there will b e a brief flurry of talking heads analyzing why he lost, then everyone will move on WITHOUT TRUMP.

All of this, of course, presupposes he will not died or be incapacitated by a stroke or heart attack, or, will not go to jail.

 

mkassowitz

(22 posts)
36. Tasty
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 06:07 PM
Nov 2023

I wonder if Donnie is ever going to forget what his feet taste like—they spend so much time in his mouth.

mercuryblues

(16,413 posts)
37. trump cares so little about his property
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 08:16 PM
Nov 2023

that he doesn't even know who his neighbors are.

I fixed the headline for them.

Rocknation

(45,006 posts)
42. If Trump can squawk, James can cackle
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 10:58 AM
Nov 2023

And if her office is next door to the building is question, James earned it.


Rocknation

SpankMe

(3,720 posts)
45. I bet she just smiled and shook her head and maybe rolled her eyes a bit
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 11:58 AM
Nov 2023

But, that's not the way Reuters reported it. It had to be a cackle. It just had to be.

SaveOurDemocracy

(4,566 posts)
47. Got as far as describing her as 'cackling'. There is NO positive connotation to
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 01:31 PM
Nov 2023

...that word. NONE!!

GreenWave

(12,641 posts)
51. So our group is supposed to be perfect for every second while
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 02:12 PM
Nov 2023

Mr. Shithead is allowed to be an asshole.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
55. I seriously doubt that AG James behaved in such an
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 07:14 PM
Nov 2023

unprofessional manner. I would love to see that video.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
60. Agree with others about the "cackling" BS
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 09:51 PM
Nov 2023

AG James is an American hero. Instead of policing James' laugh, maybe focus on the chickenshit male AGs who let trump get away with multiple crimes in their respective states.

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