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JoeOtterbein

(7,870 posts)
Fri Nov 10, 2023, 08:22 PM Nov 2023

White House tried, and failed, to persuade Manchin to make another Senate run

And now, the question is, will he run against Biden?

Politico

By HOLLY OTTERBEIN and JONATHAN LEMIRE

11/10/2023 06:34 PM EST

As Sen. Joe Manchin struggled for several months over the next step he would take politically, President Joe Biden’s top advisers privately tried to persuade him to run for another term in the Senate.

Multiple West Wing aides, including senior counselor Steve Ricchetti, and some outside Biden allies talked with the West Virginia Democrat, according to two White House officials and another adviser who were granted anonymity because they weren’t authorized to publicly discuss the conversations. Their pitch to Manchin was that, while a reelection bid in a deep-red state would be difficult, he had a path to victory.

They failed to convince him to run.

On Thursday, the senator didn’t just announce that he would not campaign for a third term but also openly toyed with the idea of launching a third-party presidential bid, saying he would be “traveling the country and speaking out, to see if there is an interest in creating a movement to mobilize the middle, and bring Americans together.”

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White House tried, and failed, to persuade Manchin to make another Senate run (Original Post) JoeOtterbein Nov 2023 OP
Forget it Joe, no one wants what you are selling MagickMuffin Nov 2023 #1
Cut him loose... Blue Owl Nov 2023 #2
Joe Manchin is a snake WVlaserguy Nov 2023 #3
Let's throw in a progressive and see if West Virginians are as red as they say bucolic_frolic Nov 2023 #4
They have heard. former9thward Nov 2023 #6
The Democratic party is the "middle", the majority of Americans doc03 Nov 2023 #5
Now that he is quitting am I finally allowed to cuss out this SOB? Irish_Dem Nov 2023 #7
He Didn't Want the Smoke Aepps22 Nov 2023 #8
I agree. He doesn't want to get beat and potentially get beat by a lot Buckeyeblue Nov 2023 #9
there's no realistic path for him to the presidency bigtree Nov 2023 #10
Exactly! newdayneeded Nov 2023 #14
Just to be clear aocommunalpunch Nov 2023 #11
Another shitty headline from Politico. Hardly a White House failure when Manchin has been intent on tanking Biden and MrsCoffee Nov 2023 #12
Not sure what happened, but it appears he's suffered a corruption of the soul Joinfortmill Nov 2023 #13

MagickMuffin

(18,348 posts)
1. Forget it Joe, no one wants what you are selling
Fri Nov 10, 2023, 08:25 PM
Nov 2023


You’re an old relic just like the coal you cherish!


bucolic_frolic

(55,463 posts)
4. Let's throw in a progressive and see if West Virginians are as red as they say
Fri Nov 10, 2023, 09:01 PM
Nov 2023

After all, they've never heard a liberal platform

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
6. They have heard.
Fri Nov 10, 2023, 09:57 PM
Nov 2023

In 2020 a progressive and environmental activist, Paula Jean Swearengin, was the Democratic candidate for Senate. She was endorsed by the Sierra Club and anti-gun groups. She got 27%.

doc03

(39,119 posts)
5. The Democratic party is the "middle", the majority of Americans
Fri Nov 10, 2023, 09:42 PM
Nov 2023

support the Democratic policies. That is why Democrats keep winning the popular vote on their issues.
If it weren't for the Electoral vote Republicans would never win the presidential election again. The Republicans
have only won the popular vote once out of the last 8 presidential elections. Where is the middle between
supporting democracy and wanting to destroy it?

Aepps22

(392 posts)
8. He Didn't Want the Smoke
Sun Nov 12, 2023, 01:18 AM
Nov 2023

Manchin didn’t want to lose in an election so he took this route. Very weak and pathetic.

Buckeyeblue

(6,390 posts)
9. I agree. He doesn't want to get beat and potentially get beat by a lot
Sun Nov 12, 2023, 08:51 AM
Nov 2023

I also don't think he'll run as a true independent. It's expensive to get on all 50 states ballots. Maybe he convinces Libratarians to run him as their candidate but I think outside of WV, it pulls votes away from Republicans.

bigtree

(94,450 posts)
10. there's no realistic path for him to the presidency
Sun Nov 12, 2023, 09:00 AM
Nov 2023

...he's too conservative for our base voters.

Funny how people anguish over how much support Biden is getting from Latino voters and blacks when this fellow has no chance at all achieving a plurality of voters identifying as Democrats.

Most of his votes will be from republican and conservative spoilers, enabling Trump more than anyone else.

 

newdayneeded

(2,493 posts)
14. Exactly!
Sun Nov 12, 2023, 10:31 AM
Nov 2023

I would be thrilled if he ran as an independent. ZERO dems would vote for this turncoat. 99% of his votes would be from trump hating repubs.

aocommunalpunch

(4,581 posts)
11. Just to be clear
Sun Nov 12, 2023, 09:51 AM
Nov 2023

This guy didn’t work with Biden’s plans because he wanted to help his re-election chances in WV, right? Then, he ghosts the party, anyway? What an absolute piece of shit.

MrsCoffee

(5,825 posts)
12. Another shitty headline from Politico. Hardly a White House failure when Manchin has been intent on tanking Biden and
Sun Nov 12, 2023, 10:07 AM
Nov 2023

the Democratic Party’s agenda from the minute Biden was elected. There is no negotiating with a narcissist of this magnitude. This is 100% on Manchin.

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