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LeftInTX

(25,944 posts)
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 12:15 AM Nov 2023

Israel demands clarification from global media over photographers during Hamas assault - accuses AP, CNN, NYT, Reuters

AP, Reuters, NY Times deny any prior knowledge, say their job is to cover news; CNN suspends ties with freelancer; Israel warns those present could be held accountable for crimes

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-demands-clarification-from-global-media-over-photographers-during-hamas-assault/


Israel on Thursday demanded that international media outlets explain the circumstances under which photographers in their pay were present at the scene of the surprise October 7 assault by the Hamas terror group on southern Israel, and warned they could be held complicit in the crimes.

The move came after the pro-Israel watchdog group Honest Reporting published a report Wednesday showing that photographers used by The Associated Press, Reuters, The New York Times, and CNN provided images taken as the attack was ongoing from the border area and including from inside Israel — intimating they may have had advance knowledge of the assault.

The report also raised questions about the relationship between some of the photographers and the Hamas terror group that rules Gaza.

AP, Reuters and The New York Times all denied having any prior knowledge of the attack and reiterated that their role is to cover breaking news events. AP and CNN said Thursday that they would no longer work with Hassan Eslaiah, one of the photographers named.

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These free lance photographers are no different than storm-chasers or backyard bad weather pics. No one vets the source. (Although our local newscast showed a huge tornado when there was a small one in the area. Someone punked the TV station..LOL) And now Sen Cotton wants to investigate the New York Times. This is BS.

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Israel demands clarification from global media over photographers during Hamas assault - accuses AP, CNN, NYT, Reuters (Original Post) LeftInTX Nov 2023 OP
The intent of that BS was to justify the murder of journalists... RockRaven Nov 2023 #1
The paranoid will see conspiracies everywhere. Aussie105 Nov 2023 #2
They are restricting satellites too. LeftInTX Nov 2023 #3
So did Hamas alert the press of what disablegamer Nov 2023 #4
They are mad because journalists have better sources than their intelligence apparatus Walleye Nov 2023 #5
Oh of course that is the issue... PCIntern Nov 2023 #6
So you think the journalists were in on it, or wanted it to happen? Walleye Nov 2023 #7
You tell me.... PCIntern Nov 2023 #10
I'm sure I don't understand the first thing about this conflict Walleye Nov 2023 #13
You should delete this vile lie of an attack on journalists. Brenda Nov 2023 #9
Oh yeah? PCIntern Nov 2023 #11
Putting the lives of all journalists in the war zone in danger. Israel wants to kill them all. Brenda Nov 2023 #12
Post removed Post removed Nov 2023 #14
Wow, I have never in my life cheered Hamas. Brenda Nov 2023 #15
Post removed Post removed Nov 2023 #16
You continue to make up shit about me. Brenda Nov 2023 #17
There's a major update to this story RainWalker Nov 2023 #19
Israel should worry about its war crimes malaise Nov 2023 #8
But not accustions of war crimes Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #22
"HonestReporting accepts news groups had no prior warning of Oct. 7 Hamas attack" sl8 Nov 2023 #18
So Israel lied to us disablegamer Nov 2023 #20
They are embarrassed by their failure. David__77 Nov 2023 #21

RockRaven

(15,151 posts)
1. The intent of that BS was to justify the murder of journalists...
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 12:24 AM
Nov 2023

Take note of those who propagate or act upon it.

Aussie105

(5,556 posts)
2. The paranoid will see conspiracies everywhere.
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 01:25 AM
Nov 2023

The photographers were 'obviously' Hamas agents wanting to record the event, right?

Or maybe they were legit journalists just there recording a big music event.

And there were plenty of cell phones held by event attendees to record the massacre.

It smacks of paranoid finger pointing to me.

Bottom line: If you aren't a member of the IDF or an Israeli citizen, you are suspect.

It's a lead-in to restricting media access to anywhere near the conflict.
Soon, only satellite images will be able to tell the tale. And Israeli propaganda will fill in the blanks of course.

PCIntern

(25,705 posts)
6. Oh of course that is the issue...
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 07:54 AM
Nov 2023

Or that just one of these could have called the police or the IDF and told them that there would be a gathering of terrorists at a music festival and none of this would have happened.

Except there’d have been a lot of dead terrorists.

PCIntern

(25,705 posts)
10. You tell me....
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 09:09 AM
Nov 2023

Hamas invites so-called freelance journalists to a “party” in Israel. Perhaps there’d be cake and ice cream.

Walleye

(31,240 posts)
13. I'm sure I don't understand the first thing about this conflict
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 09:34 AM
Nov 2023

I just know a little about how journalists work in the US. They hear rumors and try to confirm them. Their methods are not always moral. Even in this country. There is a lot more to this unfolding story. Honestly, though, I don’t dispute your views on this. The situation seems so hopeless

PCIntern

(25,705 posts)
11. Oh yeah?
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 09:21 AM
Nov 2023

Why are two organizations severing ties with one of the photographers? Because he wore the wrong color tie?

Of course they knew or st least should have suspected and the only vile lies are those overinflated casualty reports by Hamas who lie about everything. Or didn’t you know that?

Brenda

(1,091 posts)
12. Putting the lives of all journalists in the war zone in danger. Israel wants to kill them all.
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 09:32 AM
Nov 2023

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The New York Times, which works with Yousef Masoud, another of the four photojournalists, called the accusations that its newsroom had advance knowledge of the attacks “untrue and outrageous”.

“We also want to speak in defense of freelance photojournalists working in conflict areas, whose jobs often require them to rush into danger to provide first-hand witness accounts and to document important news. This is the essential role of a free press in wartime,” a statement by the newspaper said.

“We are gravely concerned that unsupported accusations and threats to freelancers endangers them and undermines work that serves the public interest,” it added.


As of Thursday, at least 39 journalists and media workers have also been confirmed dead: 34 Palestinian, four Israeli, and one. Lebanese.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/9/news-organisations-reject-allegations-of-complicity-in-october-7-attack

Response to Brenda (Reply #12)

Brenda

(1,091 posts)
15. Wow, I have never in my life cheered Hamas.
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 09:39 AM
Nov 2023

Wonder why DU allows this kind of personal attack on me?

Response to Brenda (Reply #15)

 

RainWalker

(605 posts)
19. There's a major update to this story
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 12:27 PM
Nov 2023

I posted about it yesterday but not many saw it. From the way it looks, the entire thing was based on misinformation and sadly the damage has been done. These journalists are now in immediate danger of losing their lives because of it.

[link:https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218444907|]

sl8

(14,216 posts)
18. "HonestReporting accepts news groups had no prior warning of Oct. 7 Hamas attack"
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 09:47 AM
Nov 2023
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-advocacy-group-accepts-news-outlets-had-no-prior-warning-hamas-attack-2023-11-10/


HonestReporting accepts news groups had no prior warning of Oct. 7 Hamas attack

[...]

JERUSALEM, Nov 10 (Reuters) - The executive director of Israeli media advocacy group HonestReporting said on Friday he accepted as "adequate" the denials by four media organisations that they had no previous knowledge of the Oct. 7 Hamas attack on Israel, adding he was "so relieved".

[...]

 

disablegamer

(85 posts)
20. So Israel lied to us
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 12:54 PM
Nov 2023

putting people's lives in danger. Crickets from the Israel can do no wrong in war group.

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