I don't give a flying "eff" if he is the "frontrunner" of one of our major parties

[maxrandb]

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The fucking media needs to stop pretending his candidacy is "just fucking normal".

It's like giving a fucking platform to Hitler.

Chuck: "Andrea, Hitler says he will kill 6 millions Jews if elected, how does this impact him with swing voters"?

Andrea: "Well Chuck, that does have some appeal with his base voters, so we'll just have to see if enough independents also want to commit genocide" "Meanwhile his opponents age continues to be an issue among some voters, whether that issue will be more important than a murderous hellscape promised by Hitler remains to be seen."

Next we are going to talk to one of Hitler's advisors who has told us that "the vermins very existence will be eliminated under Hitler's term".

Stand by as we see how these statements appeal to Iowa caucus voters.

[onecaliberal]

1. We need to start asking the Media why they are giving the 2023 Hitler and his party a platform to spread propaganda.

[Attilatheblond]

2. We can ask, but the fat cat media owners are not gonna give an honest answer

They won't admit they, too, prefer an authoritarian regime where they don't pay for anything. Besides, they make more moolah when the dog and pony shows result in eyeballs on their product.

[ProfessorGAC]

36. Who Are Those Fatcat Owners?

This "owner" thing is a myth I can't let slide
Aside from Faux, the media companies are owned by highly diffuse equity ownership especially given that at least 7 of the top 10 shareholders in every one of them are managed or mutual funds. This makes the ownership even more diffuse, and increases the probability that 401k holders are among the owners.
There's plenty over which criticize the news media, but some nefarious cabal of fatcat owners calling the shots is not one of them.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

39. Forget fatcat. Think Profit

Words like fatcat are evocative, colourful, and provocative. We love them, but they are not the issue.

The media corporations are highly efficient at generating profit due to advancing technology and professional management.

To generate profit they need eyeballs. They attract eyeballs by shock, awe, and controversy. When real news is slow, fall back on controversy.

To make profit from controversy, they must normalize extreme positions (more commonly found on the right) so they can set it up as "both sides".

I think poster you replied to is wrong about them "preferring" authoritarianism. I think they are so narrow-mindedly efficient that they don't give it much thought.

[ProfessorGAC]

41. We Agree

It's not "owners". It's a singular focus on ROI for whomever those investors may be, with no regard to the mission of any news organization.
The balance between the 2 is irrevocably lost.

[usaf-vet]

43. I know it is easy for me to say...BUT STOP WATCHING them. We did years ago. Now all we see is what we want. British TV.

We are not sports fans. So there is no draw to watch whoever has football, baseball, hockey, or soccer. With the added benefit of NO STUPID ADs.

We do use Amazon Prime to watch free movies with an occasional new run movie $$$. But it's our date night. Popcorn, candy, and soft drinks.

We both have hobbies that accompany our TV watching. The wife quilts, knits, or genealogy. I tie flies, pick locks, and read.

Now I'm taking an online course.

BUT never watch MSM bulls**t.

[ProfessorGAC]

51. Right With You

I don't watch MSM for news or commentary.
I'm a sports fan, so we differ on that but generally we're on the same page.
I've still got golf, piano & guitar. I do all 3 every day!
And, I pretend to be a gourmet chef. Plus, I substitute teach math & science during weather not favorable for golf.
Keeps me plenty occupied.

[CaptainTruth]

46. Yep. They work for shareholders, not the truth.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

40. It's not their preference, but they don't think much about it, chasing profits

Media companies are very efficient at making profit. They don't spend much time thinking about the overall effects of their efforts.

For them, eyeballs make profits --> controversy makes eyeballs --> normalization makes controversy possible by enabling dubious both-siderism.

I'm wondering if media companies are proverbial frogs in a warm pot.

[Initech]

3. It's good for ratings.

And ratings = money.

I'm sick of seeing his face on TV everywhere and hearing every shitty thing that comes out of his mouth again. Just... argh. We should have given him a one way ticket to Rikers Island when we had the chance.

[Cha]

4. Yes.. the GD "meida".. Enemy of the State.

[JoseBalow]

6. You spelled "mierda" wrong

[dchill]

11. Just say "merde."

[Cha]

14. I just saw that.. Sorry.. TY for letting me know!

[JoseBalow]

22. Don't be sorry

it's perfect!

[Cha]

30. Oh I get it now.. I was busy with something

else when I saw that

MIERDA!! I used to know that word when I lived in San Diego.

[ChazInAz]

45. It's one of the first words one learns in Spanish!

[PTL_Mancuso]

48. Maybe "Mierdia"???

[Cha]

49. Sounds about right.. Combo.. yesterday I used Mierda Media.

[Diamond_Dog]

5. I know, right?

Our media does a HORRIBLE job when they normalize this dangerous freak. Seems like everyone is afraid of him! It’s like living in the Twilight Zone.

[hadEnuf]

15. Actually,

our media is doing an amazing job at normalizing this dangerous freak.

Goebbels would be proud.

[RKP5637]

29. I literally hate the fucken guy, but listen to the media he's just another politician.

The media in the US will assist greatly in the eventual downfall of the US if they continue. Also, we have free speech, but this asshole is pretty much still pushing the downfall of the US. There should be limits to free speech for a terrorist fascist like Trump.

[Marcuse]

7. Just business, nothing personal.

https://act.freepress.net/sign/journ_cbs_moonves/?

[ffr]

8. K&R Please create more threads about normalized Hitler discussions. 👍👍

This is exactly how this needs to be framed. And we know some people in the media read DU. The more there are of normalized Hitler, the more chance someone will stumble upon one and take it to heart.

K&R!!!

[lees1975]

9. Glad you asked and keep it up.

It is absolutely ridiculous to consider Trump as a "normal" candidate for President with all of the indictments against him. This is not normal, and the fact that his own party hasn't driven him out of the race yet is a testimony to their blithering ignorance and stupidity. They are headed for another well-deserved beating.

The education system that brought us these media people has been a massive failure.

[WarGamer]

25. BTW the ADL doesn't approve of using "Hitler and Nazi"

in political discussion... it cheapens the devastation of the Holocaust and what the ACTUAL Nazis/Hitler did.

[louis-t]

26. Right, so don't mention it and it might happen again.

A dumb argument by ADL.

[WarGamer]

28. No one said don't mention it.

They clearly ask folks not to make those kinds of comparisons.

I'm not Jewish and don't have Holocaust survivors as friends or family members.

I assume they have good reason to believe it's inappropriate.

[SharonClark]

34. The "good reason" is that it is historically

inaccurate and does diminish the horrors of Hitler’s regime. Trump is a threat to Democracy but his actions are not at the level of evil achieved by Hitler.

[dwayneb]

44. Not YET

No difference in today's situation and Hitler in 1931. The German people were gradually desensitized to Nazism. It was another 10 years before the Final Solution but if they had recognized the threat he presented in the early days, WWII would likely never have happened.

So once again, we fail to learn the lessons of history if we do not call out Trump for what he is - a fascist who will stop at nothing to destroy our democracy and take our freedoms.

The only difference between Trump and Hitler is that Hitler was far more intelligent, a military genius. Trump is evil and shrewd but he is well past the point where he could command an army at the level of a Hitler. Of course than does not mean that he would not appoint a High Command to accomplish that.

[WarGamer]

50. Agreed.

[Evolve Dammit]

10. "..like giving a fucking platform to Hitler." Yes, it certainly is. A Dem would have been vilified and nullified

[PatSeg]

12. Chuck and Andrea!

Good choices for your analogy.

[Mblaze]

13. Ouch

That’s too real.

[grandpamike1]

16. The MSM

Has to be held to account, as the "Fourth Estate" has championed, and brought us to where our Country is today. They are responsible for Trump and his MAGA followers, which started in 2016, where they gave him 24 hour each day, of pro Trump coverage, and to a much lesser extent, to the opposition, mainly HRC. And they are continuing now, to the same scenario, backed by Billionaire Oligarch that own the Media we all watch. IMO

[maxrandb]

24. There was a time in 2016

that if you watched any cable news, your screen would be nothing but hours of an empty podium with pundits discussing what the next fart out of his face-anus was going to be.

I swear, one day I thought I had accidentally downloaded a new screensaver.

[3catwoman3]

17. I wish the all the talking heads would quit calling Trump...

…some version or other of “the front runner” every time his name is mentioned.

Everybody knows who he is. Just knock it off already!

[louis-t]

27. I wish they would stop saying "his followers".

They are his rabid, fanatical worshipers.

[Mr. Evil]

18. That piece of festering shit

will never go away unless a video is released of him raping a child or one of our over-bloated, over-funded intelligence agencies spills the beans on how much classified information he sold and to whom and for how much and the DOJ charges him accordingly.

I'm so god damned sick of hearing about him I could projectile vomit nails!

[sop]

20. Even that wouldn't convince Trump's MAGA followers he's a monster.

I don't think anything will. It's because they're monsters themselves.

[PortTack]

33. Agree ....it's only going to stop when he's out there with Ivanna

[orleans]

32. (nice imagery with those nails) nt

[Jean Genie]

19. Dipshit wit, aka mrs greenspan

Eff you, Andrea. Retire already! Go home and hang out with mr greenspan.

[honest.abe]

21. Indeed.

[republianmushroom]

23. Your post nails it.

[llmart]

31. I never miss one of your rants.

They are truly epic and state exactly how I feel about both the media and the one I call a blight on our country. I'm glad I don't have cable or I'd be worse off emotionally.

[JustAnotherGen]

35. I suspect

That if Democrats stopped consuming and clicking - they would get the message.

We pad the numbers outside of right wing media when for example - we watch a GOP debate.

This isn't just a 45 problem - its a GOP problem.

[DFW]

37. "You might as well face it, you're addicted to Trump"

[DFW]

38. Duplicate post deleted.

[malaise]

42. K & R

The owners of M$Greedia believe that ratings and profits are all that matter- it is they who give this criminal cover and coverage.

[JohnSJ]

47. Well said