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Cyrano

(15,071 posts)
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 03:25 PM Nov 2023

So about "deplorables" vs. "vermin"

Hillary Clinton called (many) Trump backers "deplorables." And many of them proved her right on January 6th, 2021.

Trump used the term "vermin" which, no matter how you twist it, is his description anyone who doesn't accept him as "Dear Leader."

But the specific words aside, what is the America both of them really have in mind?

Hillary sees an America moving forward and fixing the inequalities and flaws that exist.

Trump sees himself as the permanent president. When he uses words like "vermin," or phrases like "poison the national blood," make sure your passport is up to date. These are words used by Hitler.

So any MAGAT who's enough of an asshole to try to draw parallels between Hillary's "deplorables," and Trump's "vermin," is gas lighting you.

There is no comparison between someone who wants to improve America and someone who wants to own it.

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So about "deplorables" vs. "vermin" (Original Post) Cyrano Nov 2023 OP
I self identify as someone he considers vermin rlexx Nov 2023 #1
Raises hand. yardwork Nov 2023 #4
Proud to be called Vermin LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #10
Also hildegaard28 Nov 2023 #2
another right wing false equivalency treestar Nov 2023 #3
And Hillary didn't say she would "root out" the deplorables Redleg Nov 2023 #5
Hillary should not have used a word like that milestogo Nov 2023 #6
Yeah, looking back now it wasn't a good move. Dave Bowman Nov 2023 #7
deplorables are human, vermin are not human Voltaire2 Nov 2023 #8
I've long felt that in order to fight the RW, you must deploy their tactics against them. ffr Nov 2023 #9
There is a pattern here LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #11

yardwork

(61,724 posts)
4. Raises hand.
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 04:05 PM
Nov 2023

I check several of Trump's "vermin" categories. People I love check more.

Trump is deliberately using Nazi language while stating that he intends to round up and exterminate people who oppose him.

hildegaard28

(391 posts)
2. Also
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 03:56 PM
Nov 2023

Hitler and Mussolini both used the term vermin. Neither ever used the term deplorable. Vermin are exterminated. Deplorables are just shamed.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
3. another right wing false equivalency
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 03:59 PM
Nov 2023

Hillary never said things about getting rid of them or punishing them.

Redleg

(5,860 posts)
5. And Hillary didn't say she would "root out" the deplorables
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 04:12 PM
Nov 2023

Whereas Trump has said such things on many occasions.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
6. Hillary should not have used a word like that
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 04:17 PM
Nov 2023

to describe her opponent's supporters. It may be true but it was politically unwise.

Dave Bowman

(1,886 posts)
7. Yeah, looking back now it wasn't a good move.
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 04:49 PM
Nov 2023

She should have focused on Trumple and trample him. Going after the supporters is, usually, not a good strategy but it seems to only cost points to Dems since the Thing™ can vomit anything and the idiots find that hilarious and appropriate.



ffr

(22,674 posts)
9. I've long felt that in order to fight the RW, you must deploy their tactics against them.
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 05:01 PM
Nov 2023

No double-standard. If they want to dish it out, they better be able to accept it.

The news outlets that will skew their story titles, like Fox News, Newsmax, and Yahoo do, just shows everyone which side they're batting for. Dump, avoid, and don't repeat their bullshit double-standard propaganda.

Hillary Clinton is a rock star public servant. I can't foresee how, if she had been president in 2017 how Putin would be where he is at today. Trump is a disease.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,687 posts)
11. There is a pattern here
Sat Nov 18, 2023, 02:14 PM
Nov 2023

I I canceled my NYT subscription back during the 2016 race. The NYT went out of its way to attack Hillary Clinton on the bogus email. Lately the NYT is burying the story on TFG giving away nuclear secrets




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