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Kid Berwyn

(24,327 posts)
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 11:25 AM Nov 2023

''Your day is coming, Mr. Wray.''

Sounding like a threatening NAZI doesn't make one a real life NAZI, but it is a sign.



Conspiracy theorists have a long history of using terms like "inside job" and "false flag" to describe tragic events, from the 9/11 terrorist attacks to the Sandy Hook elementary school massacre of 2012 (which Infowars' Alex Jones claimed was really a conspiracy against gunowners). The January 6, 2021 assault on the U.S. Capitol Building has been a major focus of conspiracy theorists as well —including Rep. Clay Higgins (R-Louisiana), who claimed, without evidence, that the FBI helped engineer that attack during a House Homeland Security Committee meeting on Wednesday, November 15.

Questioning FBI Director Christopher Wray, the far-right MAGA congressman claimed there is a "tremendous amount of evidence" of FBI involvement. And Higgins pushed Wray for details on the FBI's "confidential human sources at the Stop the Steal rally on January 6 here in D.C."

SNIP...

When Wray said he was unfamiliar with the term "ghost busses," Higgins replied, "It's a vehicle that's used for secret purposes."

The MAGA congressman told the Homeland Security Committee, "This is a very significant hearing, Mr. Chairman. And these busses are nefarious in nature and were filled with FBI informants dressed as Trump supporters deployed onto our Capitol on January 6. And your day is coming, Mr. Wray."

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https://www.alternet.org/fbi-january-6-2021-trump/

Ghost busses of phony NAZIs came to Washington to act NAZI in order to discredit NAZIs makes as much sense as anything the GOP has come up with since Reagan and Poppy treasoned their way into office.

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''Your day is coming, Mr. Wray.'' (Original Post) Kid Berwyn Nov 2023 OP
Maybe Wray should just tell him "stand your butt up" Walleye Nov 2023 #1
Higgins likes to put his hands on people, in an authoritarian way of course. Kid Berwyn Nov 2023 #4
I'm not sure the congressional baseball game will even be safe from brawls anymore Walleye Nov 2023 #6
I would have asked him tavernier Nov 2023 #2
Ex-sheriff Clay doesn't like being asked questions by anyone he isn't paid in cash to proteck. Kid Berwyn Nov 2023 #7
Fucking Sheriffs BlueIdaho Nov 2023 #22
I was listening to CSpan yesterday- coocoo for Cocoa Puffs. we can do it Nov 2023 #3
Violence as a solution is NAZI. To the educated, it is crazy. Kid Berwyn Nov 2023 #10
You got that right debm55 Nov 2023 #12
Just when you think someone is the dumbest GOPer Johonny Nov 2023 #5
And they get high pay and status for it Walleye Nov 2023 #8
Once against the law, threatening violence is now a GOP identifier. Kid Berwyn Nov 2023 #11
MAGATs are unhinged redqueen Nov 2023 #9
Who you gonna call? William Seger Nov 2023 #17
GOP now led by Batshitcrazy NAZIs Kid Berwyn Nov 2023 #19
Higgins is an idiot and conspiracy nutcase LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #13
He also is part of the problem. Kid Berwyn Nov 2023 #20
Make up your damned mind SCantiGOP Nov 2023 #14
Double crossers get mad when they get triple-crossed. Kid Berwyn Nov 2023 #21
Are those the ghost buses that Ginny Thomas's group paid for to bring Magas to DC on January 6th? kimbutgar Nov 2023 #15
I never would have believed Old Crank Nov 2023 #16
Who ya gonna call? Mad_Machine76 Nov 2023 #18

Kid Berwyn

(24,327 posts)
4. Higgins likes to put his hands on people, in an authoritarian way of course.
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 11:49 AM
Nov 2023
Clay Higgins Tells Man Who Called Him 'Traitor' Over 2020 Election to 'Find Ring' for Fight

Newsweek, August 20, 2021

Congressman Clay Higgins didn't take kindly to being called a "traitor" for voting against certifying the 2020 election results, offering to physically fight a man from Alaska.

The Louisiana Republican was among the first representatives to announce he would object to the 2020 election results on the basis that he believed instances of voter fraud hadn't been reported. As has been the case with other legislators, the decision to push back on certifying the election results prompted backlash and on Wednesday, a Facebook user said his post-election behavior rendered him a "domestic enemy" to the Constitution.

SORUCE: https://www.newsweek.com/clay-higgins-tells-man-who-called-him-traitor-over-2020-election-find-ring-fight-1621684

Kid Berwyn

(24,327 posts)
7. Ex-sheriff Clay doesn't like being asked questions by anyone he isn't paid in cash to proteck.
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 11:53 AM
Nov 2023

Kid Berwyn

(24,327 posts)
10. Violence as a solution is NAZI. To the educated, it is crazy.
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 12:29 PM
Nov 2023


Erich Mühsam
Identification picture of Erich Mühsam taken in the Oranienburg concentration camp. Mühsam, an anarchist and a pacifist, worked as an editor and writer; he was imprisoned during World War I for opposing the war. Arrested during the massive roundup of Nazi political opponents following the Reichstag fire (February 27, 1933), Mühsam was tortured to death in Oranienburg on July 11, 1934. Oranienburg, Germany, February 3, 1934. Musee National de la Resistance

NAZI POLITICAL VIOLENCE IN 1933

Following Adolf Hitler's appointment as German chancellor on January 30, 1933, the Nazi Party’s paramilitary organizations, the SA and the SS, unleashed waves of violence against political opponents and Jews.

The Nazi use of force to intimidate, injure, or even kill foes was not new. It dated back to the early days of the Nazi Party. In the final years of the Weimar Republic this violence increased. In Prussia, Germany’s largest state, at least 105 people were killed in clashes between the Nazis and their Leftist political rivals in June and July of 1932, when the Reichstag elections campaigns were in full swing. Hundreds of others were injured.

After January 30, 1933, Hitler’s coalition government acted to effectively give Nazi paramilitary units control of the German streets. The SA, which had dramatically increased in size with Nazi electoral success, numbering some 3 million members by mid-1934, disrupted or shut down Leftist assemblies and protests, often with police support. In mid-February, Hermann Göring, the newly named Prussian Minister of the Interior, ordered the police not to hinder SA and SS actions, but to help them. Shortly thereafter, he created an auxiliary police force out of these two Nazi orders. As a result, their violent actions were given state sanction.

Within days of the Reichstag Fire, and the resulting presidential decree for the Protection of the People and State (February 28), the SA and SS escalated the violence against Nazi political opponents. Thousands of Communists and Social Democrats were arrested and jailed. In March—April 1933, an estimated 40,000 to 50,000 political foes were taken into “protective custody” (Schutzhaft) and imprisoned in concentration camps. The SA and SS routinely beat up and tortured political opponents and vandalized, looted, or destroyed leftist parties’ offices. Sometimes, individuals were murdered.

Not even individuals holding political office at the local or national level were safe from such violence. Some 500 municipal administrators and 70 mayors were forcibly removed from their positions by the end of May 1933. By the end of spring the violence had spread to non-leftist political figures. On June 26, Heinrich Himmler, the head of Bavaria’s political police and the head of the Nazi SS, ordered his forces to place all Reichstag and state assembly representatives from the Bavarian People’s Party in “protective custody.”

On July 14, 1933, Hitler’s government passed a law prohibiting all other political parties, except the Nazi Party, and banning the formation of new political parties. By this stage all of Germany’s many parties had either been closed down or ordered to dissolve themselves.

Last Edited: Jun 18, 2019
Author(s): United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, Washington, DC

SOURCE: https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/nazi-political-violence-in-1933

Johonny

(26,147 posts)
5. Just when you think someone is the dumbest GOPer
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 11:52 AM
Nov 2023

You find a dumber one. Soon you realize, they're all dumb. Just stupid crazy people that believe insane pointless crap.

Kid Berwyn

(24,327 posts)
11. Once against the law, threatening violence is now a GOP identifier.
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 12:37 PM
Nov 2023


Soon after Adolf Hitler was appointed chancellor of Germany in January 1933, the new Nazi regime and its supporters began persecuting Communists, Socialists, and other political opponents. Nazi authorities directed German police departments to raid Communist and Socialist political gatherings, offices, and publishers for allegedly plotting against the government. Members of Nazi paramilitary organizations continued committing assaults and acts of vandalism, but now German police did little to interfere in the violence.1 Nazi authorities began appointing politically reliable police chiefs to ensure that German police departments supported Nazi goals. For example, the newly appointed Nazi police chief in Berlin urged the officers under his command to think of the SA and the SS “as comrades and as faithful helpers in your efforts to keep down unrest.”2

The image of Nazi paramilitaries as “faithful helpers” of the police received official status in February 1933, when Nazi leader Hermann Göring ordered the swearing-in of thousands of SA and SS members as auxiliary police officers in Prussia.3 Other German states soon took this step as well. In Prussia alone—Germany’s biggest state—roughly 50,000 auxiliary police were recruited from the SA, the SS, and the Stahlhelm.4 These forces typically served in their paramilitary uniforms with a white armband to identify them to the public. Armed and placed under the command of German police officers, these auxiliary police soon developed a reputation for brutality and abuse.5

The featured photograph shows a group of SS men being sworn in as auxiliary policemen by members of the Berlin Order Police sometime in February or March 1933. It appears to depict part of a swearing-in ceremony, as the members of the SS and the police are shaking hands. Although the photograph is framed closely around the men themselves and holds few clues to the wider context of the event, it appears that they are assembled in a courtyard or street rather than on a stage or public square. What might this indicate about these ceremonies? What can be inferred from the men’s facial expressions, body language, or uniforms?

Traditional lines of authority became heavily blurred as German police ignored Nazi acts of political violence—and many members of the SA and the SS were granted the powers of the police. Deputizing tens of thousands of SA and SS men as auxiliary police officers created a highly visible link between the Nazi Party and the German police. The Nazi regime tightened its control over German police forces throughout the 1930s and early 1940s as Nazi propaganda promoted the idea that German police and the Nazi Party shared a common enemy in the struggle against Communism.6

SOURCE: https://perspectives.ushmm.org/item/photograph-of-berlin-police-deputizing-members-of-the-ss/collection/german-police-and-the-nazi-regime

Kid Berwyn

(24,327 posts)
19. GOP now led by Batshitcrazy NAZIs
Fri Nov 17, 2023, 01:10 PM
Nov 2023
“Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.” — Mao Zedong

“Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death.” — Adolf Hitler

“(Chicago’s semi-automatic weapons) ban is thus highly suspect because it broadly prohibits common semiautomatic firearms used for lawful purposes. Roughly five million Americans own AR-style semiautomatic rifles. The overwhelming majority of citizens who own and use such rifles do so for lawful purposes, including self-defense and target shooting. Under our precedents, that is all that is needed for citizens to have a right under the Second Amendment to keep such weapons.” — Clarence Thomas (2015)


Clarence Source: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/clarence-thomas-guns/553910/

Now please consider who the GZP Supreme Court wants to own and carry machine guns in public:



Joe Biggs, Proud Boy

Photo Source: https://everytownresearch.org/report/more-than-brawlers-the-proud-boys-and-armed-extremism/

So glad we have President Biden in the White House.

Kid Berwyn

(24,327 posts)
20. He also is part of the problem.
Fri Nov 17, 2023, 01:12 PM
Nov 2023
Conservatives Fired The Guy Studying Them in 2009



Why Don’t We Know Much About Right-Wing Terrorists?

Conservatives Fired The Guy Studying Them


JAMESON PARKER
AddictingInfo, JUNE 18, 2015 4:41 PM

After a mass shooting at a historically black church in Charleston, South Carolina, left nine people dead and a right-wing white supremacist arrested, the country once again faces the uneasy question of just how many so-called “home-grown” terrorists are out there – heavily armed, ideologically driven, and violent.

It’s a good question, but it may be tough to answer because for reasons that are astoundingly dimwitted, the Department of Homeland Security pushed out the guy who was in charge of watching them, and dismantled his team all the way back in 2009.

The beleaguered hero of this story is Daryl Johnson, a top government counterterrorism analyst working at Homeland Security who spent six years with the agency amassing a wealth of data on far-right extremist groups that posed various degrees of threat to citizens in the United States. In 2009, in the months after President Obama assumed office, he watched as these groups veered even further right, and began to fear that America’s first African-American president could be the catalyst of a major uptick in hate crimes and anti-government attacks.

In a landmark report released just months into Obama’s term, and now looks downright clairvoyant, Johnson made the case that radical Islam is only a small piece of the terrorism pie:

“Do not overlook other types of terrorist groups,” the report warned, noting that five purely domestic groups had considered using weapons of mass destruction in that period. Similar warnings have been issued by the two principal non-government groups that track domestic terrorism: the New York-based Anti-Defamation League and the Alabama-based Southern Poverty Law Center.

An annual tally by the latter group of what it calls “Terror From the Right” listed 13 major incidents and arrests last year, nearly double the annual number in previous years; the group also reported the number of hate groups had topped 1,000 in 2010, for the first time in at least two decades.


In response to that report, Johnson was destroyed. It wasn’t his integrity or claims that got him in trouble, his facts were solid. Instead, it was the inconvenient truth that much of the threat comes from right-wing conservatives, and even more awkwardly, radical right-wing conservatives who say and think a lot of the same things mainstream right-wing conservatives say and think.

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http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/06/18/why-dont-we-know-much-about-right-wing-terrorists-conservatives-fired-the-guy-studying-them/

That was from 2015.

Internet Archive Waybac, if link doesn’t work:

http://web.archive.org/web/20150910045015/http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/06/18/why-dont-we-know-much-about-right-wing-terrorists-conservatives-fired-the-guy-studying-them/

SCantiGOP

(14,716 posts)
14. Make up your damned mind
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 01:23 PM
Nov 2023

Was it antifa or the FBI?
And why has every one of the ones caught either pled guilty or been convicted by a jury?

Kid Berwyn

(24,327 posts)
21. Double crossers get mad when they get triple-crossed.
Fri Nov 17, 2023, 01:15 PM
Nov 2023
The open-source intelligence group Blue Hatz posted this side-by-side image comparison that they say proves Charles Bausman was inside the U.S. Capitol building during the Jan. 6 insurrection.



Jan. 6 Video Suggests 'Russia Insider' Entered Capitol

By Michael Edison Hayden
SPLC, September 23, 2021

Russia Insider founder Charles Bausman breached the walls of the U.S. Capitol building on Jan. 6, according to research conducted by a Europe-based open-source intelligence (OSINT) group into video captured during the insurrection.

The findings by the OSINT group build on Hatewatch reporting showing that Bausman traveled to Washington, D.C., on the day of the insurrection, then disappeared from his home in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, and reemerged in Moscow. In the months since, he has served as a talking head on Russian television, commenting on American affairs with a reactionary point of view. Hatewatch previously noted that Bausman claimed on a Russian Orthodox Christian-themed television station to have stopped short at the Capitol’s balustrades without entering the building. Footage obtained by the OSINT group, in which a man bearing a strong resemblance to Bausman is visible inside the Capitol, appears to contradict his account.

The OSINT group, whose members choose to remain anonymous, goes by the name “Blue Hatz.” A person who operates a Twitter account associated with the group described them to Hatewatch as “an independent international team of 15 ‘OSINTers’ and investigators from Europe, Russia, Ukraine and US” who have been using found footage to identify those who breached the Capitol building on Jan. 6. In the Russian television interviews, Bausman claims to be a journalist covering the events of Jan. 6, rather than a pro-Trump demonstrator. But the man the OSINT group believes to be Bausman – shown in side-by-side images in a tweet they published – can be seen wearing a red, Trump-branded hat, blending in with other supporters of the 45th president inside a hallway. The video shows the man strolling and taking video with his cell phone as rioters move through the Capitol building.

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https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2021/09/23/jan-6-video-suggests-russia-insider-entered-capitol

kimbutgar

(27,238 posts)
15. Are those the ghost buses that Ginny Thomas's group paid for to bring Magas to DC on January 6th?
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 01:53 PM
Nov 2023

Old Crank

(7,039 posts)
16. I never would have believed
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 02:19 PM
Nov 2023

How wack the GOP could become. Firehoses of nonsense and absolute lies.

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