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CincyDem

(7,392 posts)
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 12:03 PM Nov 2023

The American Multimillionaire Marxists Funding Pro-Palestinian Rage

https://www.thefp.com/p/american-marxists-funding-pro-palestinian-rage

The pro-Palestinian protests over the last month, where tens of thousands in the U.S. have chanted for the end of Israel, are not merely a story of organic rage.

They are also funded in large part by an uber-wealthy American-born tech entrepreneur: Neville Roy Singham, and his wife Jodie Evans.

Since 2017, Singham has been the main funder of The People’s Forum, which has co-organized at least four protests after 1,400 innocent Israelis were slaughtered by Hamas on October 7. One rally, in Times Square, happened on October 8 before Israel had even counted its dead.

[snip]

But Singham is more than just a Marxist with deep pockets. He is also a China sympathizer who lives in Shanghai and has close ties to at least four propaganda news sites that boost the Chinese Communist Party’s image abroad, the Times reported.

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Good read to understand who’s driving, and who benefits from divisions in the US political landscape.
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The American Multimillionaire Marxists Funding Pro-Palestinian Rage (Original Post) CincyDem Nov 2023 OP
Excellent Information, Cincy.. Bookmarking.. Cha Nov 2023 #1
If they are chanting for an end to Israel it is actually a pro-Hamas rally ripcord Nov 2023 #2
Good read superpatriotman Nov 2023 #3
I knew these weren't organic protests mcar Nov 2023 #4
Absolutely. yardwork Nov 2023 #9
Lives in China, no wonder all their t-shirts were matching, uniform is very Chinese Shanti Shanti Shanti Nov 2023 #5
Rec TY Cha Nov 2023 #6
Quite a few good DUers also live in China, most also work there -- so, do we condemn them? obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #26
So this dude is Marxist...how? leftstreet Nov 2023 #7
Read the article superpatriotman Nov 2023 #10
I did leftstreet Nov 2023 #11
Leftstreet is right -- the PR hit piece does say he is a Marxist obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #23
I often disagree with you.... Happy Hoosier Nov 2023 #14
It sounds like the writer attempted a cheeky observation. yardwork Nov 2023 #16
I could tell this was not organic. This is astroturfing. yardwork Nov 2023 #8
Kick dalton99a Nov 2023 #12
What is this photo supposed to be showing us? obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #24
him and his wife that is founder of code pink JI7 Nov 2023 #29
I know who they are -- what is the photo supposed to show? obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #32
Mahalo for the photo, dalton.. Cha Nov 2023 #36
The Bari Weiss outlet as your source? Quoting a Republican congressman? muriel_volestrangler Nov 2023 #13
What exactly is your quibble with the report? yardwork Nov 2023 #15
That it comes from an organization based on being "anti-woke" and "anti-cancel culture" muriel_volestrangler Nov 2023 #17
LOL! Most sources used here on DU have positions. yardwork Nov 2023 #18
LOL! Terms of Service: muriel_volestrangler Nov 2023 #19
Yeah, as soon as I saw it was The Free Press obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #22
Soooo...since we're now moving into ad hominem territory... CincyDem Nov 2023 #27
April 2019 is quite early to stop with Bari Weiss muriel_volestrangler Nov 2023 #28
Wow...lot to unpack there. CincyDem Nov 2023 #33
OK - for others wondering about Weiss, I'll just leave this New Yorker article muriel_volestrangler Nov 2023 #34
As someone who always wants to get the last word in...I'll just leave this here. CincyDem Nov 2023 #37
Rec.. Bottom line.. Cha Nov 2023 #35
This generally reads like a favorable PR piece. David__77 Nov 2023 #20
He isn't a Marxist -- wtf obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #21
Quite a few good DUers also live in China, most also work there -- so, do we condemn them? obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author BootinUp Nov 2023 #30
Kick and recommend. Tremendously insightful article. bronxiteforever Nov 2023 #31

Cha

(319,079 posts)
1. Excellent Information, Cincy.. Bookmarking..
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 09:16 PM
Nov 2023
Since 2017, Singham has been the main funder of The People’s Forum, which has co-organized at least four protests after 1,400 innocent Israelis were slaughtered by Hamas on October 7. One rally, in Times Square, happened on October 8 before Israel had even counted its dead.

https://www.thefp.com/p/american-marxists-funding-pro-palestinian-rage

Thank You~

superpatriotman

(6,870 posts)
3. Good read
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 09:43 PM
Nov 2023

His wife was one of the founders of Code Pink, and now actively promotes China.

Let’s not pretend progressives strings aren’t being pulled by someone.

mcar

(46,058 posts)
4. I knew these weren't organic protests
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 09:46 PM
Nov 2023

They came up too fast and were too well organized and full of antisemitic hate.

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
26. Quite a few good DUers also live in China, most also work there -- so, do we condemn them?
Fri Nov 17, 2023, 11:43 AM
Nov 2023

By your logic and the OP's, we do.

leftstreet

(40,681 posts)
11. I did
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 11:52 PM
Nov 2023

Also checked him on Wikipedia

He supports freeing Assange
His wife works for CodePink
His buddy is a founder of Ben and Jerry's

But I guess this is the quote from the article that exposes his "marxism"

“I decided that at my age and extreme privilege, the best thing I could do was to give away most of my money in my lifetime,” said Singham, now 69, in a statement after selling his company, according to a New York Times investigation in August.

But Singham is more than just a Marxist with deep pockets.

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
23. Leftstreet is right -- the PR hit piece does say he is a Marxist
Fri Nov 17, 2023, 11:40 AM
Nov 2023

And, even if he is, what the hell is wrong with being a Marxist?

Happy Hoosier

(9,535 posts)
14. I often disagree with you....
Fri Nov 17, 2023, 09:13 AM
Nov 2023

Last edited Fri Nov 17, 2023, 10:31 AM - Edit history (1)

... but not this time.

I don't like some of that guys position, but I see nothing that is "marxist," I find that people who throw that term around rarely know what it really means.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
16. It sounds like the writer attempted a cheeky observation.
Fri Nov 17, 2023, 10:17 AM
Nov 2023

""But he's more than just a rich Marxist..." I don't think it was meant to be taken literally.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,212 posts)
13. The Bari Weiss outlet as your source? Quoting a Republican congressman?
Fri Nov 17, 2023, 05:14 AM
Nov 2023

I mean, if you're going to start a thread criticizing who is behind things, take a look at what you're using first. Isn't there somewhere on the left of US politics you could have turned to, rather than the right?

muriel_volestrangler

(106,212 posts)
17. That it comes from an organization based on being "anti-woke" and "anti-cancel culture"
Fri Nov 17, 2023, 10:22 AM
Nov 2023

and it makes it case by quoting Republicans. And so it's ironic to use such an unreliable source to say "hey, we don't like a person who funds this group".

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
18. LOL! Most sources used here on DU have positions.
Fri Nov 17, 2023, 10:25 AM
Nov 2023

Are you saying we can only discuss articles published by outlets whose owners espouse beliefs with which we agree?

That's going to eliminate... pretty much everything.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,212 posts)
19. LOL! Terms of Service:
Fri Nov 17, 2023, 10:42 AM
Nov 2023
Don't peddle right-wing talking points, smears, or sources
Do not post right-wing talking points or smears. Do not post content sourced from right-wing publications, authors, or pundits. Exceptions are permitted if you provide a clear reason for doing so that is consistent with the values of this website.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

LOL.

CincyDem

(7,392 posts)
27. Soooo...since we're now moving into ad hominem territory...
Fri Nov 17, 2023, 11:47 AM
Nov 2023

...is she "right" or is she just "right of you"?

It feels like you've got a line somewhere on the political spectrum that differentiates left from right. Where is that? I don't mean at the edges where I think we can all agree that Steve Bannon is right and Rachel Maddow is left.

What about that fuzzy center? And in that center, is there any room for political fluidity...not the expedient kind like changing your story depending on the audience, but the kind where one's political conscience includes ideas that may lean both left and right depending on the specific topic?

Your comment made me do a little more digging into Bari Weiss. I don't agree with everything she's written, but I do agree with some. She was disastrously wrong in her comments re: the Kavanaugh appointment and while she ended up in the unsupportive camp - her rationale missed the mark by a long shot. She was right about supporting the Women's March in DC while at the same time questioning their decision to choose two (out of four) keynote speakers with long, vocal track records supporting Louis Farrakhan, one of the most vocal anti-semites with a following.

I thought the vanity fair article was interesting (might be behind a paywall..sorry). She's certainly got her quirks, in both directions.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/04/bari-weiss-the-new-york-times-provocateur

As to the article including a quote from Rubio...ok...I'll give ya that one. But I figured his opinion was offset by the reporting from the NYT, far from a right wing rag (although I don't always agree with the either).

So, IMHO, we're going to agree to disagree on this one. You can see some bright line in the spectrum that no ideas can't cross...I'll keep thinking there's a porous center that has merit on a topic by topic basis.

But - just be clear, I'll eat glass before I vote for a republican. Hopefully we agree on that.









muriel_volestrangler

(106,212 posts)
28. April 2019 is quite early to stop with Bari Weiss
Fri Nov 17, 2023, 12:41 PM
Nov 2023

though that article does mention her pushing of the stupid "Intellectual Dark Web" idea, in which she claims that there are these "intellectuals" who were getting cancelled by the "regular" web, but producing great stuff unseen by the mainstream.

Weiss profiled several popular academics and pundits, such as Bret Weinstein, Jordan Peterson, and Christina Hoff Sommers, who’ve retreated from academia and the mainstream media but have emerged on other platforms. Some thought the piece was a frank portrait of a phenomenon worthy of examination. Others believed that by giving these provocateurs the floor, Weiss was endorsing their opinions.

The thing is, since then, it's become fairly clear she's endorsing them. And they're a bunch of posers complaining about "wokeness" and "cancel culture".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bari_Weiss

In 2020, she resigned from the New York Times, and shouted loudly that she was a free-speech martyr, which only convinced the right:

Her letter was praised by U.S. Senators Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, and Kelly Loeffler; Donald Trump Jr.; political commentator Ben Shapiro;[53][54] former Democratic presidential candidates Andrew Yang and Marianne Williamson; and political commentator Bill Maher.[55][56][57] Conversely, Weiss's resignation letter attracted substantial criticism from left-leaning media sources.[58] Alex Shephard criticized the content of Weiss's letter in The New Republic, calling Weiss's resignation a form of "self-cancellation" and part of a pattern in Weiss's work of "taking thin, anecdotal evidence and framing it in grandiose, culture-war terms".[59] Writing in The Guardian, Moira Donegan called Weiss a "professional rightwing attention seeker" and disputed her claim that social media's influence had led to a hostile media environment for conservatives.[60]

The Financial Times has described Weiss as a "self-styled free speech martyr".[61] In 2021, Weiss compared her own professional travails to Galileo Galilei, an Italian scientist who was threatened with being burnt at the stake if he did not renounce his scientific views.[61]

On October 27, 2020, Weiss appeared on the American talk show The View to discuss cancel culture, which she called "wrong and deeply un-American"; she continued, "I believe that no one should be hung or have their reputation destroyed or lose their job because of a mistake or liking a bad tweet."[62][63]


Weiss was one of the "journalists" Musk turned to when he exposed the internal Twitter emails trying to paint it as biased against those poor misunderstood right-wingers:

Journalists and writers who have written for The Free Press include Emily Yoffe,[1] Michael Shellenberger,[1] and Joe Nocera. Regular contributors include Douglas Murray and Vinay Prasad.
...
In December 2022, The Free Press published information about the Twitter Files after Twitter CEO Elon Musk provided Weiss with access to records of Twitter's internal communications.[11][18] The information Weiss discussed included blacklisting of accounts and suppression of trending topics.[6][19] Bari Weiss, Matt Taibbi and Michael Shellenberger shared the inaugural Dao Prize for Excellence In Investigative Journalism, awarded by the National Journalism Center, for their Twitter Files coverage.[20]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Free_Press_(media_company)

Any publication giving Douglas Murray space is deeply suspect - he's a deeply offensive right wing arsehole. Currently suggesting every Palestinian should be chucked out of Gaza:



And claiming that the First Minister of Scotland, Humza Yousaf, has "infiltrated" the British political system (he was born in Scotland, his parents were from Pakistan) and is really the "First Minister of Gaza" (his wife's father is from there).




Prasad? Won fame comparing Covid responses to fascism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinay_Prasad

The Free Press article, as well as Rubio, quoted Republican Mike Gallagher.

CincyDem

(7,392 posts)
33. Wow...lot to unpack there.
Fri Nov 17, 2023, 01:43 PM
Nov 2023

As I said earlier, I’m good with agreeing to disagree.

And I don’t disagree that she’s got baggage but it’s not like I’m trying to nominate her for the Ruth Bader Ginsberg Liberal of the Year award.

Without trying to do a point by point response, I think the tweet from Jake Wallace Simons is interesting. I don’t know anything about him but his comment about British liberal Jews looking toward the left and finding sparse little support is equally applicable to American liberal Jews. The groups we have been “there for”, some for generations, are in large part silent. Not all groups and not all individuals in those groups…but enough so that it’s felt.

So we’re back to where we started. You have one opinion. I have another. And I’m good with agreeing to disagree. I sense you want me to change my mind about my sourcing on the OP. If that’s the case…stand down. Not going to happen.



muriel_volestrangler

(106,212 posts)
34. OK - for others wondering about Weiss, I'll just leave this New Yorker article
Fri Nov 17, 2023, 03:24 PM
Nov 2023

about the anti-woke FAIR - "Foundation Against Intolerance & Racism" - that she founded, funded, like Clarence Thomas, by Harlan Crow:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-activism/is-it-possible-to-be-both-moderate-and-anti-woke

Cha

(319,079 posts)
35. Rec.. Bottom line..
Fri Nov 17, 2023, 03:45 PM
Nov 2023

No one's killing the messenger.. the report stands.

Good job, Cincy!

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
21. He isn't a Marxist -- wtf
Fri Nov 17, 2023, 11:38 AM
Nov 2023

I read this, and not only is he not a Marxist, the whole piece is weirdly attacking those left of Center. Which is often kinda the raison d'être of the Free Press and Bari Weiss.

But, Singham is not a Marxist, and even if he was, so what? There is nothing wrong with being a Marxist.

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
25. Quite a few good DUers also live in China, most also work there -- so, do we condemn them?
Fri Nov 17, 2023, 11:42 AM
Nov 2023

We must! They are all apparently Marxists who hate Jews, by your logic.

And, using Bari Weiss' The Free Press, with an article quoting a wingnut? lolz wtf

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