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After The New York Times called former President Donald Trump "vague" on abortion rights, President Joe Biden's campaign posted an ad and a video of Trump's own statements that say otherwise.
Earlier this week, the newspaper published an article by journalist Ruth Igielnik titled "Why Trump Seems Less Vulnerable on Abortion Than Other Republicans," in which she said that Trump "appointed judges who overturned Roe, but his vague statements on the issue may give him some leeway with voters."
Igielnik wrote that Trump "has held steady in recent surveys even among voters who favor keeping abortion mostly legal" and that he "seems to have effectively neutralized abortion as an issue during the Republican primary" because he "appears to be attending to general election voters by employing vagueness and trying to occupy a middle ground of sorts."
https://secondnexus.com/biden-campaign-video-trump-abortion
Walleye
(44,807 posts)Hes vague is he. Hes a lying sack of shit dont repeat anything he says
Bev54
(13,431 posts)They make me sick!
Walleye
(44,807 posts)kimbutgar
(27,248 posts)I guess the NYT missed that video or they want the TFG re elected because hes more exciting to write breathless headlines about!
But he has said he is responsible for the new ban and there is multiple instances of him saying it!
SWBTATTReg
(26,257 posts)be an serious issue in the 2024 election, and republicans are going to feel the wrath of voters, and not just because of their lies, their incompetence, and their abortion stance, just like desantis is in FL.
Since these guys are so insistent and quick on women paying the price for abortions and such, when these women are taking control of their bodies as they should be allowed to do, w/ unfettered access and rights, if they pass another legislative attempt on abortion, they should include cutting someone's testicles off too, as part of the family plan too. Fair is fair, eh?
kimbutgar
(27,248 posts)TSExile
(3,363 posts)Then, now and forever - the onus has been, is now and ALWAYS will be on the woman. UNFAIR!!
SWBTATTReg
(26,257 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(179,869 posts)The NYT always favors TFG in its coverage
SharonClark
(10,497 posts)The author was writing about how some people who purport to support abortion rights plan to vote for trump 1) because economic issues are more important to them than social issues or 2) they are willfully ignorant of trumps statements about abortion or 3) they dont connect trumps actions and the actions of the Supreme Court.
Seems to me that the author was providing much needed information about how some voters who are vaguely pro-choice, and also low information, plan to vote for trump.
We cant assume that so-called pro-choice voters really care about the issue at the same level we do. This article is a reminder.
maxrandb
(17,428 posts)If only the New York Times had some type of medium they could use to point out his lies.
The MSM "fretting" about "low information voters" is like a school asking why their students failed Algebra II after they spent the semester teaching them Woodworking.
In It to Win It
(12,651 posts)I recall reading one young lady's words that abortion rights was a big issue for her, and because states started banning abortion while Joe Biden is President, she thought it was Joe Biden's fault.
Imagine how hard of a facepalm I did.
I found it... here is what I read: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/16/upshot/kamala-harris-biden-voters-polls.html?unlocked_article_code=1.-0w.XrC4.L8_8TwcpKIbz&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
tavernier
(14,443 posts)That silver has severely tarnished.
progree
(12,977 posts)I post this because the secondnexus.com link that had a link to Igielnik's article popped up a McAfee security alert that I couldn't get rid of without clicking on something inside the pop-up which is always a bad idea.
Igel
(37,535 posts)"Long-term"? Risible.
He speaks today. Says X.
He speaks tomorrow. Says Y.
Next day he speaks, "I didn't change. I said W."
And on fourth day? Says Z.
Quoting his beliefs, outside of his inherent narcissicism, as anything approaching a fact shows far, far too much consumption of intellectual sugar of lead over the course of the last decade.
