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RainWalker

(605 posts)
Sat Nov 18, 2023, 11:42 AM Nov 2023

Here comes Amazon Internet - Musk Starlink competitor

This is nice news for people who live in rural areas where internet service is limited to almost non-existent to not existing at all.

Amazon’s New Internet Service is Ready to Start Mass Production – Here is When You Can Sign Up For Its Affordable New Home Internet Service

https://cordcuttersnews.com/amazons-new-internet-service-is-ready-to-start-mass-production-here-is-when-you-can-sign-up-for-its-affordable-new-home-internet-service/]

This week, Amazon announced it has completed the testing of its internet service. This also came with an announcement that Amazon will now start mass production of satellites for its home internet service. The goal is to start launching these satellites in early 2024, public beta tests start in late 2024, and launch the service in select areas in 2025.

This is great news! Amazon has repeatedly said it plans to offer an affordable option for home internet to its customers. Now that reality is almost here as Amazon is ready to start moving forward with production and beta testing.

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What price should you expect?

Reports are that Amazon is hoping to undersell Starlink. So, look for a price at or below $100 a month, which is a great deal especially if you live in a rural area.

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RainWalker

(605 posts)
3. The speed looks good
Sat Nov 18, 2023, 11:51 AM
Nov 2023

It's cheaper than Starlink but I still believe $100 entry price is too much.

Autumn

(49,020 posts)
5. I'm in a rural area. I tried two other internet satellite companies and they were a joke
Sat Nov 18, 2023, 12:01 PM
Nov 2023

Century link is out here, we were at the end of the line. $85 a month with constant outages and buffering. As soon as starlink came up I bought the equipment.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
7. How is it working out for you. My DSL is so slow that I can no longer upload photos and I am sick of it.
Sat Nov 18, 2023, 12:09 PM
Nov 2023

It gripes me to have to shell out $600.00 for "equipiment." to start the serivice. It may be years before someone pulls a high-speed cable out in these woods, so I have limited choices. How does the Starlink work when it is raining? When we used a dish for TV service, it it rained you could forget it.

Autumn

(49,020 posts)
12. It's amazing. We have never had an outage and it's fast. When the grand kids are here
Sat Nov 18, 2023, 12:26 PM
Nov 2023

they can all game, we have several streaming services and they can watch their shows on various devices and there is never any buffering. We get a lot of rain storms and I was worried abut the lightning and hail but it's not caused any issues yet. The way it's angled on the roof the snow slide off . It killed me to send that snot Musk 600 but it's the best money I have ever spent. I don't know who developed star link but I'm sure he had nothing to do with it.

Meadowoak

(6,606 posts)
14. I'm in rural Kentucky, about as far in the backwoods as you can get. I currently have
Sat Nov 18, 2023, 12:57 PM
Nov 2023

Starlink, it works great but it's expensive, $120 month. Governor Beshear promised every home in KY would have access to fiber optic high speed internet, and sure enough, they are running the fiber cables now. The ATT man said I will have it in about a month. It takes a democrat to get anything done.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
15. My governor, in Florida, think that only the rich deserve high-speed internet. He isn't about to spend
Sat Nov 18, 2023, 01:01 PM
Nov 2023

the people's money on the people.

 

RainWalker

(605 posts)
4. For many this is the only option
Sat Nov 18, 2023, 11:52 AM
Nov 2023

I really think we need a massive internet build out from the government with a government run ISP similar to how municipal broadband works but for rural areas.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
8. An REA type program for fiber optics would open up a large part of the country to work from home that is not avialable
Sat Nov 18, 2023, 12:14 PM
Nov 2023

today. I don't think that our nation is capable for programs like that any more. Republicans would damn it as socialism. (which means anything that doesn't create a windfall for big business)

NickB79

(20,405 posts)
6. We're rapidly approaching a Kessler Syndrome event
Sat Nov 18, 2023, 12:06 PM
Nov 2023
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome

The Kessler syndrome (also called the Kessler effect,[1][2] collisional cascading, or ablation cascade), proposed by NASA scientist Donald J. Kessler in 1978, is a scenario in which the density of objects in low Earth orbit (LEO) due to space pollution is numerous enough that collisions between objects could cause a cascade in which each collision generates space debris that increases the likelihood of further collisions.[3] In 2009, Kessler wrote that modeling results had concluded that the debris environment was already unstable, "such that any attempt to achieve a growth-free small debris environment by eliminating sources of past debris will likely fail because fragments from future collisions will be generated faster than atmospheric drag will remove them".[4] One implication is that the distribution of debris in orbit could render space activities and the use of satellites in specific orbital ranges difficult for many generations.[3]


Orbital space isn't as empty or vast as people assume. There are specific optimal zones we keep satellites in. Filling it with thousands of mini satellites will have a disasterous effect. Trying to navigate low Earth orbit will become like a duck flying through a cloud of bird shot.

NickB79

(20,405 posts)
10. Until a tipping point is reached
Sat Nov 18, 2023, 12:21 PM
Nov 2023

A satellite collision starts a chain reaction, and a growing debris field destroys hundreds of satellites in short order. Communication, GPS, Internet, weather, etc, all gone. It would be chaos.

Gonna be hard for a tech company to make a profit with vital satellite tech converted to clouds of orbiting space dust.

hunter

(40,856 posts)
16. Do we really need internet spew saturating every square centimeter of the earth's surface?
Sat Nov 18, 2023, 01:03 PM
Nov 2023

Can't we just leave the wild places wild?

If a place is unreachable by fiber optic cable and microwave links then maybe nobody should be living there.

The greatest utility for these satellite internet links are for those who are destroying previously undisturbed wilderness -- the people extracting fossil fuels, ripping down forests for biofuels and the meat industry, mining for gold, or just going off-the grid and getting away from it all.

We should be making it MORE difficult and inconvenient to live in wilderness areas, not less.

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