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So a judge finds that Trump engaged in an insurrection and the 14th Amendment applies to everyone who took an oath to defend the Constitution, except the president.
This decision means that Trump must be put on the ballot for president but he will be banned from the ballot in Colorado were he to run for a lower office.
DC Appeals court meeting today to decide whether or not Trump is allowed to threaten judges, clerks, prosecutors, potential jurors, why not? Just say anyone other than a candidate for president must not threaten people.
The closer it gets to the election the better chance that Trump has to avoid being held accountable.
Time Matters.
MiHale
(13,032 posts)Its a statement of fact the word is should be the second word.
gibraltar72
(7,629 posts)so far in his life. The idea that he is a rapist and insurrectionist, but no one will stop him from doing worse is galling.
Magoo48
(6,721 posts)ecstatic
(35,075 posts)We say he's not above the law, but in order to make it a reality someone has to actually make the call to lock him up.
But trump is an unacknowledged terrorist. His words can get people killed.
I think a lot of these lower Court judges would prefer for the Supreme Court to handle all of these issues. They don't want the blowback that might come from gagging him or keeping him off the ballot.
Soon, our corrupt rightwing "Supreme Court" will let us know whether trump is above the law, like them. It'll be interesting to see where they land.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)chicoescuela
(3,080 posts)Evolve Dammit
(21,774 posts)DownriverDem
(7,014 posts)is the disgusting white MAGA repub racists. They don't want diversity which is tearing us apart. If trump wins again I am fearful about what will happen. (I'm white.)
Ohioboy
(3,892 posts)A strange reality where a seditious moron can be on the ballot for president. I hope we can survive.
Chainfire
(17,757 posts)Any mortal American would have been to jail several times if the acted like Trump.
RobertDevereaux
(2,036 posts)TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts)dchill
(42,660 posts)bluestarone
(22,177 posts)My question is, (because i do not understand court procedures) Couldn't Smith request the SC to make a fast ruling on this bullshit?
lastlib
(28,261 posts)but with the RW court we're stuck with, I somehow suspect they would *avoid* seeing the urgency of the matter...... It wouldn't be in the repuglikans' (or the oligarchs who own them) interest to rush it, I think.
My 2cts.
bluestarone
(22,177 posts)I just cannot believe they (not all of them) cannot see what TFG would do to our country and THEIR future. TFG would not need anyone of THEM if elected in 24.
onenote
(46,140 posts)So, no, Smith cannot ask for "certification" to SCOTUS.
lastlib
(28,261 posts)That is certainly a federal case, with a federal question. Smith can apply for certification, but it's not very likely to be granted, IMHO
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)would Smith ask for anything regarding a case filed by COLORADO VOTERS?
hay rick
(9,605 posts)prodigitalson
(3,193 posts)Autumn
(48,962 posts)Wonder Why
(7,020 posts)MiniMe
(21,883 posts)malthaussen
(18,567 posts)Of course he is. I admit to finding it amazing just how far above the law he is.
-- Mal
homegirl
(1,965 posts)The ironic thing, and we know so many people are irony deprived, is that trump is not "macho" in the way we usually define it. His vain comb over, the orange make up, his sexualization of his own daughters, his "firing" people with a tweet instead of face to face, his lying about his weight and height, his lack of physical activity even when golfing, his lying and exaggerations.
All he is, is loud talk. What does he actually do? He gets others to do the dirty work.
Farmer-Rick
(12,667 posts)I was just thinking how maybe 20 years ago, if a man wore as much makeup as Trump does on a daily basis, he would be considered weird. Besides all the homophobic and trans stereotype insults that orange makeup would elicit. Stereotypes he and his Nazis are very happy to perpetuate.
And yet he goes around wearing clown makeup and his macho toxic masculinity Nazi buddies don't say a word.
Take Trump's money away and he would be nothing. If not for his father's leftover capital, Trump would be just another common criminal with weird makeup.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)😉
D23MIURG23
(3,138 posts)In theory the answer should be no.
If every judge in our country thinks it's "too dangerous" (read: are too cowardly) to subject him to the same consequences that literally anyone else would get, then the answer is yes.
If I went into Engoron's court room and incited violence against his clerk, I would be in Rikers.
Freethinker65
(11,203 posts)republianmushroom
(22,324 posts)Midnight Writer
(25,409 posts)We can't be complacent, assuming he will be neutered or go to prison (LOL!) by Election Day. That will not happen.
We need to mobilize and get out the vote. It is the only way to stop him.
gab13by13
(32,318 posts)The Magats learned from the 1st coup attempt. States that are controlled by Magats that Biden wins will be rat fucked before they are certified.
Runningdawg
(4,664 posts)It's not just TRUMP who has been shown to be above the law, his henchmen are walking away unscathed. Imagine what the Nuremberg trials would have been like if they had allowed plea deals.