This may be a dumb idea but it won't be my first one here. What if the military stopped access

[Maraya1969]

for women to get an abortion for as long as it takes for Tubby to lift his stupid hold on filling the vacancies and allowing the senate to fill all the vacancies. And after that make a law somehow to reverse that decision?

Or why can't someone in one of the other committees decide to make it a law that the military serve the medical needs of women? Then it would come out of committee and the senate can vote on it. Why does it have to go through that jackass's committee?

Can't the senate figure out a way to sidestep this moron?

Also can't the senate find a way to censure this guy for holding up the required work of the Senate?

Edit: I forgot to put this video in. I didn't watch the whole thing but I am going to. The dems are trying to find a way to stop him

I don't know anything about the workings of the senate but there are plenty of senators that do and they should be able to be creative to stop one person's hold on the military. Maybe censure him for maneuvering to make our country in danger because they have made our military less effective?

[getagrip_already]

1. Do you really think he would stop?

Or would he just move the goal posts?

I suspect he would find some other hill to climb up on. Gay rights probably.

You can't give in to terrorists. They always want more.

[Maraya1969]

5. Why can't they censure him for putting our country in danger?

[getagrip_already]

7. Because we dont have the votes......

Dems are not pure on this issue.

We have the votes to end the madness but certain members won't support it.

We could for example, vote to end the filibuster for this issue, then vote for a rules change to take the power away from tubby.

Ez peazy. Cept we don't have 50 votes to do it (so harris could break the tie). Even though we have 51 seats...

[Maraya1969]

8. Wait. They only need 50 votes to do this? You are right when you say we have 51 votes

So it is on the Dems if that is correct

[getagrip_already]

13. Yup, the fillibuster is a rule, not a constitutional requirement

Rules are set by the senate by majority vote.

They have suspended it before, for judicial appointments for example (that's why those are still working).

So they can eliminate it entirely or in part, permanently or temporarily. They just need 50 votes.

Or 60. Let's not forget that the gop is also complicit as a whole since they won't pony up 10 or so Republicans to over ride a filibuster to allow a rules change to sideline tubby.

It isn't just one lunatic.

[tritsofme]

20. The problem here isn't really the filibuster, it would only take a simple majority to confirm any single nominee

It’s that these normally non-controversial nominations are usually moved as a package through the Senate.

The Senate operates by unanimous consent on most issues, Tuberville has continually denied consent to move these nominees, which would force Schumer to schedule some 400 individual votes, a process that could take months.

Schumer is pursuing a temporary rules change, but it would take Republican votes to accomplish.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

2. Not a fan of using people who want abortions as a pawn, myself.

[Maraya1969]

4. Why does anyone have to know? Isn't privacy between a person and their doctor

built right into the constitution?

[mahatmakanejeeves]

16. No. NT

[RandomNumbers]

17. Doesn't really work if someone in the military needs to take leave

and cross state borders to get a medical procedure.

In addition to the financial barrier. That is why the military reimburses in certain cases, and that is what Traitorville is objecting to.

[MontanaMama]

3. This isn't about abortion, imo.

This is evidence that the insurrection is ongoing.

[Irish_Dem]

6. Exactly. This has nothing to do with abortion.

This is about weakening the military for very specific reasons.

[Whiskeytide]

10. And keeping these appointments ...

… vacant until after Jan 2025 - so Hair Furor can fill them with sycophants.

[Maraya1969]

14. Thank you. So far you are the only one who has not attacked my ideas. I believe that

if you don't agree with someone then offer something else. The Dems so often will not fight.

[Irish_Dem]

19. Yep. And we know there are GOP elected officials on the Putin payroll.

So it is a win all the way around for the Putin GOP.

[inthewind21]

9. Well

It's been my experience when you give the bully what they want, they just go bigger. Appeasement because of, how far has that got so far?

[Maraya1969]

11. How can he possibly go bigger than holding up our US military?

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[Maraya1969]

12. Not if you humiliate them. I've done this and it works

[Midnight Writer]

15. If his abortion "concern" is met, then he will pivot to gays in the military, or women recruitment.

He has spoken already on these topics.

He wants the country to return to the 1910s.

[themaguffin]

18. He's not doing this because of abortion. He's obstructing simply to hurt Biden.

[former9thward]

21. The Senate can't censure a member for using one of its own rules.

They need to change the rule.