So what is your theory

[gopiscrap]

on who killed John Kennedy. I think it was a combination of big business, the CIA and the Dallas Police Department looking the other way

[Irish_Dem]

1. Dulles brothers?

[Dave Bowman]

4. They sure hated the Kennedys.

Also the Mob.

[Irish_Dem]

5. Yes they did.

And they could pull off the murder and cover it up.

[Kid Berwyn]

15. Allen Dulles served as Warren Commission info gatekeeper.

And WC member John “Mr. Establishment” McCloy also held back his connections to the Fascist International.



Curiously missing from American history and any mention of the Warren Commission in corporate media:

Two of its members were directly responsible for the rise of post-war fascism. Allen Dulles, as a top official of the OSS and CIA, incorporated NAZI war criminals into the CIA from its founding. President Kennedy fired him for lying to his face regarding the Bay of Pigs invasion. John McCloy, as High Commissioner for Germany, allowed Klaus Barbie, Alfred Krupp, eight members of his board, and who-knows-who-else to escape justice. Of course, Dulles and McCloy also were barons of Wall Street and Beltway Insiders, at the heart of the military industrial complex. We all can see what that means for the United States today.

Background:

The American who let the Nazis rebuild Germany

https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/november-2021/the-american-who-let-the-nazis-rebuild-germany/

CIA and NAZI War Criminals

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB146/index.htm

And We the People wonder how things today got so very fascist.

[Irish_Dem]

20. Of course he did.

How else do you get away with the crime of the century?

[czarjak]

2. Rich white guys get away with their shit.

[MOMFUDSKI]

3. Don't know. I just went down the confuser

rabbit hole and am watching a talk about Dorothy Kilgallen going to New Orleans in search of who killed Kennedy . Mafia people. Then she winds up dead in her NY apt from barbiturates. Interesting stuff. She was quite the investigative reporter.

[Silent Type]

6. I stopped paying attention decades ago. If one believes Oswald did not act alone, then one

will forever be stuck in an unanswerable conspiracy theory. Admittedly, there were lots of people who hated Kennedy, but that’s no different than today.

[OAITW r.2.0]

7. You assassinate people that people - in whole - believe in.

I've seen this before. Lots of folks that could have done it. We will probably never know the real story. But, when I get to heaven, that is the 1st thing I am checking out.

[Boomerproud]

8. We will probably never know the real story.

60 years on. Amen to that.

[Beausoleil]

9. Tha Mafia

Carlos Marcello admitted as much. Roselli and Giancana were murdered just before they were to testify before Congress.
They did it in a way that they would not be exposed without the CIA plot to kill Castro also being exposed.
Thom Hartmann has a video with Lamar Waldron that talks about it.
I became convinced after reading "Mafia Kingfish" by John Davis.

[limbicnuminousity]

10. Damaged people refused to learn.

I was born during Nixon's term, so my understanding of the time period is flawed and incomplete. Nowhere near complete, really. But even now glancing back there's a hint of camelot.

Lost things can be found again, they were never lost to begin with. A hard truth, but possibly the only one that matters.

[Phoenix61]

11. Oswald killed him.

But JFK wasn’t the target, Connolly was.
https://vineyardgazette.com/news/2013/08/28/new-book-proposes-kennedy-was-not-target-lee-harvey-oswald

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

12. The evidence for that is zero

It was LHO.

No other credible evidence has come forward to dispute that.

The rest is mindless conspiracy babble.

[Kid Berwyn]

13. USAF Gen. Curtis LeMay enjoyed a cigar at JFK's autopsy.

Where was Gen. Curtis LeMay on Nov. 22, 1963?

Excerpt…

“Navy Petty Officer Paul K. O’Connor—a hospital corpsman whose job it was to assist the pathologists at the autopsy—recounted consistently over the years that when he was ordered by the chief pathologist at the autopsy to tell whoever was smoking in the morgue to put out their cigar, he walked over to the gallery and discovered that the offender was Air Force Chief of Staff Curtis LeMay. LeMay contemptuously blew cigar smoke in O’Connor’s face, and of course, refused to extinguish his cigar.

“This is a good example of how a multidisciplinary approach to research bears great dividends. Neither the Clifton Air Force One tapes, nor the Andrews logbook, nor Paul O’Connor’s recollections, can tell us the complete story; but together, we can piece together a significant event on 11/22/63: Curtis LeMay was present at JFK’s autopsy to gloat over the death of his nemesis, and in going there, he disobeyed the orders of his nominal superior, the Secretary of the Air Force, Eugene Zuckert.

“I am proud of the part the ARRB, and my Military Records Team, played in obtaining the Chuck Holmes logbook, for it is the heart of this story. The new dimension about the frustration of LeMay’s aide, Colonel Dorman, comes to us from the Clifton tapes. It certainly makes the basic story even more intriguing. And I believe Paul O’Connor. He told me that story himself back in 1998.”

Source: https://jfkfacts.org/a-note-on-curtis-lemays-actions-on-nov-22/I

[gopiscrap]

14. fucking Curtis LeMay

was a royal asshole who should have been cashiered from the Armed Forces

[Kid Berwyn]

16. DUer Bill Kelly studied the suppressed history...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3818498

Thanks for keeping up the Good Fight, gopiscrap! I remember your work on this from when I was Octafish.

[gopiscrap]

19. thank you you are very kind

[canetoad]

17. Don't have a theory

But I watched, "What the Doctor's Saw" yesterday and it's very persuasive.

[H2O Man]

18. Recommended.

Here is what I think: President Kennedy frequently had two tracks going at the same time, to allow him options as events took place. Thus we know a "journalist" was interviewing Castro at the time at the time of the assassination. The "journalist" had been sent to advocate for an easing of tensions between the US and Cuba.

At the same time, a small compartmentalized group in the administration was engaged in planning for if relations were not normalized. They were, as Lamar Waldron documented in two related books, engaged in a secret plan to support Juan Almeida Basque's planned assassination of Castro. It was not until many decades later that documentation of this was released. It was unknown to the Warren Commission, the House Committee, and the public.

When this group began plans to get people into Cuba in case the plan when operational, Attorney General Robert Kennedy had to give the okay. This tends to present an interesting view of why Oswald attempted to get into Cuba shortly before JFK was gunned down. It also explains why Robert confronted the head of the CIA that day, saying, "One of your guys did this."

Someone, likely connected information to Howard Hunt. From there, it became possibl to organize the two previous plans in other cities, and then Dallas. They were confident that there would be no investigation that addressed this, because the government needed to protect Almeida.

It is important to understand that the CIA, as an agency, included individuals who had connections to the mobsters that VP Nixon had approved of using to kill Castro. The Kennedy brothers sought to remove the gangster connection that Nixon left. (Keep in mind Nixon being furious in one of the debates with Senator Kennedy, who said the administration had no plans to deal with Vuba, at a time Nixon could not say he was overseeing the ill-fated Bay of Pigs events.)

That a few people in the CIA were involved with organized crime in killing the president, the agency was not.

In my opinion, Oswald did not shoot President Kennedy. I understand and respect that others have a right to a different opinion.