'Holocaust 2.0' graffitied on the University of Maryland by pro-Palestinian student activists

[Behind the Aegis]

At the University of Maryland, pro-Palestinian student activists chanted “There is only one solution, intifada revolution!", and wrote ‘Holocaust 2.0’ in chalk, according to multiple posts shared on X.

Above the image of ‘Holocaust 2.0’, ‘Palestinian Liberation’ can be seen scrawled.

Link to tweet

A Jewish student spoke to local media WUSA9 about the antisemitism on campus. She told the source “Now that I know what some people on this campus think, I don’t feel as safe walking around; especially alone or especially at night.”

The university told the source that “We are aware of hateful, and antisemitic sentiment expressed at today’s demonstration by Students for Justice in Palestine. We condemn it in no uncertain terms.



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But...but...but...this isn't really anti-Semitism.

[enid602]

1. Vituri

What’s worse? The graffiti you cite, or Nissim Vituri’s (Deputy Speaker of the Knesset) 11/17/23 tweet that said “We are too humane. Burn Gaza now no less!”

[elias7]

3. The graffiti is certainly worse

Do YOU care about innocent Jews?

Question: why do you think Israel needs to exist? Because where are these sudents going to go in a 2nd holocaust

The statement made that statesman is very complex, and unless you live there (like none of these UM students or the pro Palestinian students, you dont really have a great understanding of what is meant. Vituri’s statement meant that in the history of military struggles, n attack by a non-occupied self governing territory like the one on 10/7 would have been met by total destruction in most circumstances. He is expressing the frustration of an unchanging situation for 75 years, where Palestinians are repeatedly offered a two state solution, reject it, then attack Israel again, I repeat the most nations would not have put up with this behavior on the part of Gaza.

[enid602]

12. Vituri

You give Vituri too much credit. I don’t believe that his statement was that nuanced. Sounds like he would like to see Palestine burn. Period. You know, there are countries where a ‘statesman’ like him would be subject to impeachment or censure for making such a comment in a public arena.

[Hekate]

44. Which countries exactly, in these days? Certainly not ours if the GOP returns to the White House.

Inquiring minds and all that.

[enid602]

48. Bridge

We’ll have to cross that bridge when we come to it.

[JustAnotherGen]

60. Very soon

If the ass wipes threatening to not vote for Biden follow through.

Also - a second Trump Admin for Muslim Americans will make Palestine look like child's play.

I don't believe for one single minute he intends to put ONLY Latinos in those concentration camps.

When it is inflicting cruelty - that thing ALWAYS does what he says.

Agenda 47 will happen. . . because there will only be true believers in his next Admin. He's a fucking idiot - but he learned that lesson.

[enid602]

63. Countries

All of Europe, all of South America, the Middle East. You may not know this, but Israel’s treatment of Palestine has not been well received.

[Cha]

47. The Deflecting from the Horror of the OP is Still NOT Working..

[enid602]

51. Graffiti

Do they know who did the Graffiti yet? I imagine campus police is on it, and hopefully local police and FBI. I would like to know if it was protestors or neo Nazis.

I remember the controversy a couple weeks ago when someone stenciled and spray painted Stars of David on a beautiful home in an upscale Paris neighborhood. Police learned it was painted by a Moldovan couple who were paid $34 to do it by Russians.

As far as deflecting to Vituri, this is a case where we know who did it, and he has not (as far as I know) been officially rebuked in the 6 days that have passed.

Yet we’re so quick to condemn the pro-Palestinian protesters for the chalked graffiti.

[Cha]

54. NOT Wolrking.

[enid602]

55. Answers

No debate? I’m surprised.

[Behind the Aegis]

4. Hey everyone....LOOK OVER THERE!

[Cha]

5. Exactly freaking deflection.

Can’t admit the horror of the graffiti. 🕯️

[Hermit-The-Prog]

9. IMO, advocating adding to 6 million murders and continuing genocide is worse

But then, I suspect most civilized people who consider what "Holocaust 2.0" is likely to reference would also consider it worse than a right-wing asshole tweeting about burning down a city or area.

[yardwork]

13. WTF? Why are you comparing these things?

This thread is about antisemitic vandalism on a n American university campus. WE own this. We can't control what an Israeli official says.

[enid602]

15. Vituri

U of M have ways of investigating the culprits in the graffiti case. If it’s on tape and the culprits are enrolled, they’ll be expelled. Maybe eyewitnesses can ID them. The authorities can rinse the chalk graffiti off the sidewalk.

Because we subsidize the Israeli Government, we own Vituri’s comments. Vituri should know that his comments are not appreciated by Israel’s ally.

[yardwork]

22. We don't own Israeli comments any more than we own another country's

This is nonsense. The U.S. subsidizes dozens of nations in various ways, many of them oppressive regimes with far worse human rights records than Israel.

We give millions to nations in the Middle East and Africa that treat women and gay people abysmally. I'm a gay woman and I don't jump up and down insisting that Biden "control" the behavior and words of people in Yemen, Uganda, Nigeria, etc.

[enid602]

38. Vituri

We don’t give Israel ‘millions,’ we give them billions. Almost 15 billion this year. A billion is 1000 million.

In the Middle East, Israel is merely known as the Little Devil. The US is the Big Devil. We own this war. We should have a bit of input,

[yardwork]

40. Not according to this:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/which-countries-receive-the-most-foreign-aid-from-the-u-s/#:~:text=Israel%20has%20been%20by%20far,defense%20system%20and%20other%20projects.

Country Assistance (USD) Top Activity
🇦🇫 Afghanistan $1.5 billion Humanitarian Assistance
🇪🇹 Ethiopia $1.4 billion Emergency Food Assistance
🇯🇴 Jordan $1.3 billion Cash Transfer
🇾🇪 Yemen $1.1 billion Emergency Food Assistance
🇸🇸 South Sudan $1.0 billion Emergency Food Assistance
🇨🇩 DRC $891 million Emergency Food Assistance
🇸🇾 Syria $844 million Humanitarian Assistance
🇳🇬 Nigeria $828 million Global Health Supply Chain
🇨🇴 Colombia $761 million Counter-Narcotics
🇸🇩 Sudan $620 million Emergency Food Assistance

[enid602]

41. Aid

The aid cited is for emergency food assistance. The $15 billion this year to Israel is to wage war. Vituri should be considerate of our position when making brash comments in the public arena. The Israelis and Israeli Government should censure/ impeach him if he does not speak for them.

[Hekate]

45. "We" do not "own this war"

[enid602]

53. Blame

We’ll be blamed for it, and many already blame us.

[JustAnotherGen]

61. Russians and

China, Muslim Extremists will - they always do. If someone stubs their tour in Bhutan - they blame it on us.

[Cha]

30. It's NOT a matter of "what's worse".. you're Attempt at

Deflection from this Graffi Horror is NOT working.

The annihilation. of all Jewish People is in our Country.. the Israeli's is between Israel and Palestine.

[Happy Hoosier]

32. That's just Whataboutism

Both can be terrible. But Holocaust 2.0? C’mon… don’t whatabout that. Gross.

[enid602]

39. Vituri

The cowards who wrote the chalk graffiti didn’t even have the guts to identify themselves when scribbling their threat. Vituri did.

[Hekate]

46. Squirrel!

(Yes, I read the whole subthread)

[JustAnotherGen]

59. It's worse - because happened here

A whole lot of people in America had poor home training. Its not just the Unite The Right assholes anymore.

[elleng]

2. DAMN.

NO ONE thinking rationally???!!!

[Raine]

6. Sick, disgusting & sad. 😔 nt

[Sympthsical]

7. The fact we haven't seen expulsions tells us all we need to know

Many of these universities have faculty and administration who are sympathetic to anti-Israel and antisemitic sentiments.

Imagine if the KKK burned a cross on the quad, and the university responded with, "Hate is against our policies, blah blah blah," and then did nothing about it?

Because that's what these schools have been doing.

And people are very chill with it.

But oh, they just care so very much. Ask them. They'll tell you. They're awesome people with all that caring. Very against racism and bigotry. And they'd tell you about that, too. But they won't. For, you know, reasons.

No more masks. I see all of these people. Especially the quiet ones.

[Jedi Guy]

17. As it turns out, some bigotry is perfectly okay as long as it's aimed at the "right" people. N/T

[Sympthsical]

18. That's oppression ideology in one sentence

If we code you as an oppressor, it's open season.

And somehow, we're not supposed to worry about this very absolutist and authoritarian mindset that is being actively taught in colleges across the country.

[yardwork]

23. I'm also seeing the drama triangle at work.

I see individuals who are very invested in living on the drama triangle, where they take on the three roles - victim, oppressor, savior - in turn.

Being a savior is appealing. It requires a villain and a victim, though. This complex situation has been cast in simplistic terms with the Palestinians (and Hamas - I'm not fooled by protestations to the contrary) as the victims, the Israelis/U.S. Establishment/Republicans as the villain oppressors, and the "non-Establishment Left" as the saviors.

Apparently this "saving" is manifested as vandalism, saying mean things on social media, and shoving pictures of watermelons in Black people's faces.

[Sympthsical]

24. That's interesting

I'd never heard of the drama triangle before, but that certainly tracks.

And there's, of course, the historical pattern we see in these things. If you genuinely believe you're a liberator against an oppressive force, excess isn't a bug - it's a feature. Quite a bit can be justified "for the cause." So the vandalism, the antisemitism, the shutting down of speech, the violence. Because it's all in the name of Our Righteous Path, none of it matters. It's not important, and if you bring it up, how dare you. We're having a crusade over here!

Saviors are sinless.

And, as we've seen many times in history, that can be a dangerous identity to hold.

[yardwork]

26. Absolutely. The means are justified by the goals - which are heroic and require sacrifices.

Becoming a true believing tankie isn't that big a leap.

It's the same rationalizations as among those who participated in J6.

[JI7]

62. Yes, in the case of minorities that they oppose they just refer to them as Establishment

[Jedi Guy]

42. It's been interesting watching definitions change in service of this ideology, too.

Racism has been redefined to mean that only the majority can be racist, which is super convenient since it allows people in the various minorities to hold shitty beliefs and engage in shitty behavior guilt-free. When concepts are keeping you from being shitty, simply redefine the concept so it no longer applies to your behavior. Neat, huh?

To your larger point, though, you're absolutely right. The mindset is absolutist and authoritarian and it brooks no criticism or examination of its tenets. The very act of examining or criticizing it reveals the person doing so to be an oppressor, and oppressors must be destroyed. No action in service of that goal can be evil, since destroying oppressors by any means necessary is in and of itself a moral good.

It's been interesting and dismaying watching this ideology bear poisonous fruit in real time.

[mcar]

52. Exactly

No campus would tolerate racist or Islamaphobic actions, but this kind of filth is “nuanced.”

[MichMan]

8. Don't these actions fit the definition of a hate crime?

If the colleges aren't willing to take action, perhaps the AG should?

[RainWalker]

10. Interesting

I saw "Holocaust 2" not as something which said should be done to Jewish people but rather what pro-Palestinian people are saying is happening to them right now in the conflict. It's a rather common talking point.

I wish people wouldn't use that as a talking point. There's better comparisons.

[yardwork]

14. It's a common and stupidly uninformed talking point.

Comparing this war to the Holocaust is mondbogglingly uninformed and frankly offensive.

Not a good look.

[EllieBC]

19. In what world are the two the same?

That’s just offensive.

I know people are clamouring to justify antisemitism or say it doesn’t exist unless it’s coming from white men but we all know that’s just more gaslighting.

[RainWalker]

20. I think the better comparison

is the treatment of Native Americans at the hands of the US Government.

[yardwork]

27. That's not an apt comparison at all, though.

In fact, it's a rather foolish and hegemonic reframing of a complicated situation into something bad that WE did.

[EllieBC]

28. Are you saying indigenous

had an entire platform that called for the destruction from the river to the sea? Did they regularly lob rockets at Europeans?

An apt description of Hamas is they are terrorists.

[RainWalker]

35. I'm saying the treatment is similar

Rockets? Try war parties.
The US Government's treatment of Native Americans is very similar to how Israel treats Palestinian people.

Give this a read, it's good https://indianz.com/News/2023/11/09/native-america-calling-the-native-perspectives-of-the-israel-hamas-war/]

[LiberalFighter]

29. Are they being marched into an oven to be burned?

[RainWalker]

36. Read this

https://indianz.com/News/2023/11/09/native-america-calling-the-native-perspectives-of-the-israel-hamas-war/]

[LiberalFighter]

43. Just a link? I don't go to links that don't provide a preview. Especially from newbies.

[RainWalker]

49. The link is to indianz.com

Which is one of the largest sites focused on Native Americans.

[Happy Hoosier]

33. Except that's asinine...

There is is nothing like the industrial death machine of the Holocaust happening. We’re seeing a rather usual example of the tragedy of urban warfare. Remember that 125,000 civilians died in the Battle of Berlin. Was that a “holocaust?” Of course not. Pure propaganda.

[leftyladyfrommo]

11. So much hate. It just boils over every so often.

And hopefully it will die down again.

I heard Hillary go off on Hamas. She had no use for them.

[Jedi Guy]

16. I guess they've given up on "from the river to the sea" since no one's falling for it anymore.

They must've realized no one's buying what they're selling and so they've started openly calling for what they've wanted all along: the destruction of Israel, the extermination of the Jews, and the founding of a Palestinian state on the ashes.

They can get fucked, far as I'm concerned.

[sarisataka]

21. College students are smart

They know better than to say "Hitler was right" out loud.

Instead they make "aspirational" statements that they can deny what it really means. Just like white supremacists fondness for the number 88. No particular reason, just just like it...

[JustAnotherGen]

25. The students should

Be threatened with expulsion until they give up the people who wrote a death threat on the wall.

What you permit (bystanders) you promote.

So give up the people who wrote that on the wall.


If WASP students cheered "Tulsa 2.0" and wrote a bunch of nooses on the wall - we'd be up in arms.

A death threat on campus is a death threat.

[Behind the Aegis]

57. I know you aren't suprised.

Hell, the very FIRST response to this thread was an "excuse", and of course, another poster decided to go the gaslighting route. It is never surprising how fast some, who often decry bigotry against every other group under the sun, fail to do so when Jews are involved. Some things NEVER change.

[JustAnotherGen]

58. Unfortunately

I'm not.

Still - a Happy Thanksgiving Day to you and yours.

[wyldwolf]

31. "progressives" indeed.

[Elessar Zappa]

34. Hey wyldwolf!

Haven’t seen you around these parts in years!

[wyldwolf]

37. Hey there!

I've been active in, um, various capacities. Mainly raising a feminist daughter.

[mcar]

50. Will someone explain to me how this is OK?

We would be condemning any other kind of bigotry, but not this call for genocide?

[scipan]

56. On xitter they're very organized

Not so at all with the pro Israel people. It's very obvious when you look at a few pro Palestinian people's timelines.

I'm wondering if some orgs have a motivation to get these people out to protest, then get a few radicals to paint the whole group with the same brush. Or radicalize them.

Anyway, I'm not convinced that most of those protestors actually believe "Holocaust 2.0".