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Ohioboy

(3,893 posts)
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 10:18 AM Nov 2023

Good luck with any MAGA relatives you may encounter over the Thanksgiving holiday

If your family is like mine, there's a good chance you'll be treated to some rather large portions of cognitive dissonance and logical fallacies along with your dinner. The only advice I have is to smile and laugh at it. Get yourself through the meal. Don't let stress affect your digestion.

Happy Thanksgiving! And let's hope next year we'll be giving thanks for defeating this MAGA madness.

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Good luck with any MAGA relatives you may encounter over the Thanksgiving holiday (Original Post) Ohioboy Nov 2023 OP
Yep, know the feeling. Scottie Mom Nov 2023 #1
I think it actually gets their attention more when you just laugh at them Ohioboy Nov 2023 #4
We are spending Thanksgiving weekend in the Blue Ridge mountians with friends .. Bo Zarts Nov 2023 #2
We have lost too many family members sarisataka Nov 2023 #3
I'm sorry for your losses, sarisataka. yardwork Nov 2023 #45
Thank you, i appreciate that sarisataka Nov 2023 #48
I hope you have a beautiful day, and I hope your memories bring some happiness. yardwork Nov 2023 #59
In my house, politics are verboten during the holidays, Sal_NV Nov 2023 #5
We were invited to my son's in-laws for Thanksgiving Mossfern Nov 2023 #6
So lucky to come from a blue family with inlaws that are old school polite. haele Nov 2023 #7
Your Grand-Pappy was somebody to emulate! yardwork Nov 2023 #46
I think this is the wrong approach maxrandb Nov 2023 #8
I'm with you on that. I warn others once that if they would continue, I'd take them to the woodshed. Efilroft Sul Nov 2023 #9
Agreed. Pop their bubble. Show them reality. Shove it down their throats. ZonkerHarris Nov 2023 #40
Wait, wut? Nazi Barbie set? scipan Nov 2023 #53
We've found a sure-fire way cyclonefence Nov 2023 #10
I will be nestled in with 3 other strong Dems and their dogs. boston bean Nov 2023 #11
If they initiate their bullshit Aviation Pro Nov 2023 #12
Ah yes holiday memories TheProle Nov 2023 #25
It's usually not grandma, who generally wants to keep the peace, but an overweight BIL or uncle Aviation Pro Nov 2023 #27
You do you TheProle Nov 2023 #30
Fortunately, not in my family. bluescribbler Nov 2023 #13
They'll soon eat crow. usonian Nov 2023 #14
My whole family whats left of us is MAGA William769 Nov 2023 #15
Your dear friends are your real family, William yardwork Nov 2023 #47
Thanks William769 Nov 2023 #49
I've given them a 2.5 hour time limit Chakaconcarne Nov 2023 #16
A SIL wore a Mothers for Liberty tee shirt to the 4th of July celebration csziggy Nov 2023 #17
My problem will be avoiding the Gaza issue. maxsolomon Nov 2023 #18
I'll be in a whole house full of SBC end-timers, including preachers and missionaries. Lars39 Nov 2023 #54
yikes. maxsolomon Nov 2023 #56
Oh, I wish! lol Lars39 Nov 2023 #58
My SIL's husband is a maggot cult member and she is very liberal ! kimbutgar Nov 2023 #19
Your SIL is a bigger woman than both of us!! TSExile Nov 2023 #35
My first husband was Republican but I was non political then kimbutgar Nov 2023 #36
Thank goodness!! TSExile Nov 2023 #52
At our large gathering, TFG and treason-weasel Republicans come up briefly, but we sigh, shake FailureToCommunicate Nov 2023 #20
There's been a political split in the family due to politics. Niagara Nov 2023 #21
Isn't it amazing that we could get together during the Bush and Obama years but TFG created such kimbutgar Nov 2023 #38
Sadly, the other side of the family started political tirades during Obama's Presidency. Niagara Nov 2023 #41
where i am going , the host and hostess will not allow any political stuff. AllaN01Bear Nov 2023 #22
I'm actually looking forward to it. Grumpy Old Guy Nov 2023 #23
Bring up politics at Thankgiving, Mr.Bill Nov 2023 #24
Our family are all Democrats and hate Trump. Emile Nov 2023 #26
Same here. I feel like I'm left out of all the fun! Abolishinist Nov 2023 #43
Football is/has always been the featured topic... MiHale Nov 2023 #28
It's always me - the liberal loudmouth - that has to shut down talks of politics TlalocW Nov 2023 #29
none are even invited here samnsara Nov 2023 #31
I have a son and conservative daughter in law that has slowly excluded the rest of the family dembotoz Nov 2023 #32
I have a different sort of family member. Basic LA Nov 2023 #33
No MAGA relatives in my family BlueIdaho Nov 2023 #34
That is exactly what I do! AwakeAtLast Nov 2023 #37
I solved this problem ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #39
Yes. OldBaldy1701E Nov 2023 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Nov 2023 #42
That's something to look forward to! yardwork Nov 2023 #44
They can say what they want and I don't care. totodeinhere Nov 2023 #51
In my experiance 90% of the time it is a MAGAt that tries to start doc03 Nov 2023 #55
The most MAGA members are coming from AZ. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2023 #57
Have a bdamomma Nov 2023 #60

Scottie Mom

(5,838 posts)
1. Yep, know the feeling.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 10:24 AM
Nov 2023

I have one MAGA friend left. He has learned that I am verbally quick and he should NEVER give me an opening. I have learned that instead of punching with my words, I now just LMAO at him. He has learned to keep his MAGA mouth shut around me. Thankfully, everyone else is a faithful and flaming total West Coast, Left Wing liberal. We collectively wish the earth to open and swallow TFG.

Ohioboy

(3,893 posts)
4. I think it actually gets their attention more when you just laugh at them
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 10:36 AM
Nov 2023

You know you have their attention when they want to know what you're laughing at. Then you can finish them off by telling them they wouldn't understand.

Bo Zarts

(26,364 posts)
2. We are spending Thanksgiving weekend in the Blue Ridge mountians with friends ..
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 10:32 AM
Nov 2023

Extremely left-leaning, Trump-loathing friends, just like us. It will be SO nice for a change from Thanksgivings past.

Happy Thanksgiving, y'all!

Bo

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
3. We have lost too many family members
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 10:34 AM
Nov 2023

Over the last three years to waste time on discussing politics. We will be appreciative of the time we have together.

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
48. Thank you, i appreciate that
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 10:38 PM
Nov 2023

Time and cancer caught up to members of both my and my wife's family.

We have invited our close friend's family who has had similar experience so the table will be less empty. Our mutual losses are opportunity for new traditions.

Sal_NV

(606 posts)
5. In my house, politics are verboten during the holidays,
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 10:41 AM
Nov 2023

if anyone starts to discuss politics, no matter if they're R or D, I shut it down very quickly, but gently.

Mossfern

(4,716 posts)
6. We were invited to my son's in-laws for Thanksgiving
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 10:48 AM
Nov 2023

They are MAGA. The last time we were together his father in law tried to pull us into a political discussion.
My husband is always ready to argue. I interrupted by saying "This is a family event, there will be NO political discussions!"

We bowed out gracefully for Thanksgiving this year and will have an intimate dinner instead , inviting a friend who is single and would otherwise be alone.

haele

(15,402 posts)
7. So lucky to come from a blue family with inlaws that are old school polite.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 10:58 AM
Nov 2023

Thanksgiving was never political, except for the times my immigrant Grand-Pappy would teasingly bring up the John Birch Society just to hear my Dad's glorious rants against them.
Grand-Pappy (from Finland as a toddler in 1895, speaking fluent Finnish, Russian, and Swedish as well as english) taught himself Spanish (and Mexican slang) and Armenian to help new naturalized citizens in his Central Los Angeles community area with taxes and insurance/inheritance issues pro bono, and had rambunctious "dealings" with the local John Birchers and Know-Nothings all the time, up until he died at the age of 99.
Those are the types of Thanksgivings I remember.

Haele

maxrandb

(17,428 posts)
8. I think this is the wrong approach
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 11:13 AM
Nov 2023

MAGAt Dipshits have no problem spewing their racist, treasonous, asshatted bullshit. Why should we be the ones to just smile and take it for the sake of decorum.

I say push back strongly on their racist ass bullshit, right to their face...right in front of great-grandma. Hell, I am not against shoving their face in the mashed potatoes if they spew their Nazi crap.

Decorum went out the door for me the minute they supported the Netherworld Ken Doll that comes in the Nazi SS Barbie set.

Efilroft Sul

(4,413 posts)
9. I'm with you on that. I warn others once that if they would continue, I'd take them to the woodshed.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 11:22 AM
Nov 2023

Figuratively or literally. Their option.

Might be why my wife and I are down to hosting only our surviving parents tomorrow. Oh, well, more food and booze for us.

cyclonefence

(5,151 posts)
10. We've found a sure-fire way
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 11:22 AM
Nov 2023

to avoid having the MAGATs in our extended family attend big family gatherings.

Several family members were hospitalized with covid over the past couple of years, so when we invite, we stipulate that everyone attending must be vaccinated. Puts the burden of excluding themselves right where it belongs: on themselves.

boston bean

(36,931 posts)
11. I will be nestled in with 3 other strong Dems and their dogs.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 11:29 AM
Nov 2023

My husband, sister, brother n law. Each has our own democratic dog. We will be bad mouthing MAGA enjoying the day on other important topics as well. Thank the goddesses!

like heaven!

Aviation Pro

(15,578 posts)
12. If they initiate their bullshit
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 11:53 AM
Nov 2023

Ask them if they're man or woman enough to step outside alone to discuss.

Usually quells them real fast because they're fucking cowards.

Also, make sure you back that up with a level of seriousness that leaves no doubt.

Aviation Pro

(15,578 posts)
27. It's usually not grandma, who generally wants to keep the peace, but an overweight BIL or uncle
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 01:19 PM
Nov 2023

Unless her name is Boobert and then eph her. I'd get in her grill any day.

bluescribbler

(2,521 posts)
13. Fortunately, not in my family.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 11:53 AM
Nov 2023

Those who aren't registered Democrats nevertheless vote for the Dems every time.

William769

(59,147 posts)
15. My whole family whats left of us is MAGA
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 12:16 PM
Nov 2023

I have a straightforward way of dealing with them. They are not in my plans for the holiday. They can all scream at each other. Me? I will be having a stress free holiday with friends who are like minded.

P.S. It's a shame politics has come to this. To all my DU friends have a Happy Thanksgiving.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
47. Your dear friends are your real family, William
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 10:18 PM
Nov 2023

I hope you have a beautiful and happy Thanksgiving, dear!

Chakaconcarne

(2,787 posts)
16. I've given them a 2.5 hour time limit
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 12:25 PM
Nov 2023

Really sucks but as hard as I try to avoid it, they can't help but bring shit up.

csziggy

(34,189 posts)
17. A SIL wore a Mothers for Liberty tee shirt to the 4th of July celebration
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 12:38 PM
Nov 2023

In response, I ordered a LeVar Burton "Read Banned Books" tee shirt to wear tomorrow.

I don't talk to that SIL - she became a rabid right wing "Christian" in college (which shocked her liberal, Unitarian family) and married a man she met through the military version of the campus organization that converted her. They have become more and more conservative over the years and voted for Trump twice each.

When their staunchly Unitarian mother died, SIL arranged for the memorial to be held at her church, completely ignoring the fact that her mother had never set foot in the place and would not have wanted to have anything to do with it.

I've told my husband that I will never go to any family get together at their house again. I will be the bare minimum of polite, but avoid interacting with them or their children.

maxsolomon

(38,729 posts)
18. My problem will be avoiding the Gaza issue.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 12:42 PM
Nov 2023

There will be one full-on Anti-Zionist attendee.

Lars39

(26,540 posts)
54. I'll be in a whole house full of SBC end-timers, including preachers and missionaries.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 11:10 PM
Nov 2023

kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
19. My SIL's husband is a maggot cult member and she is very liberal !
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 12:42 PM
Nov 2023

I promised her we would not talk politics tomorrow. That said, she is a bigger woman than me I couldn’t be married to a TFG supporter. Divorce would have happened in mid 2017 for me! My husband and I are 100% agreement on the dangers of the TFG menaced!.

TSExile

(3,363 posts)
35. Your SIL is a bigger woman than both of us!!
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 04:16 PM
Nov 2023

Not only would I never marry a T**** supporter, I wouldn't even go out on a date with one. That's a deal-breaker.

kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
36. My first husband was Republican but I was non political then
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 04:25 PM
Nov 2023

But he was a pos and I’m glad I got away him without having kids. A couple of years ago he sent me a friend request on FB and when I looked at it he was wearing a red maga hat and had a plus sized blonde wife! The complete opposite of me!

Thank God I dodged that bullet guy and have been married for 34 years to a liberal like me!

FailureToCommunicate

(14,605 posts)
20. At our large gathering, TFG and treason-weasel Republicans come up briefly, but we sigh, shake
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 12:44 PM
Nov 2023

our heads and pass the brandy.
This year, I suspect there will instead be extended attempts to convince the 'kid's table' that they need not worry about Biden's age, and to VOTE anyway even if they are concerned. The 'other choice' is likely going to lead to them never being able to vote again.


Happy Thanksgiving to all you great DUers!

Niagara

(11,852 posts)
21. There's been a political split in the family due to politics.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 12:48 PM
Nov 2023

Instead of having one dinner as a whole, there are now two separate dinners and gatherings for both Thanksgiving and Christmas. One for the MAGA and one for the Democratic. There's a younger couple that attends both even though they're Democratic.


I had to listen to someone shout politics during our previous events and I started pushing back. That fact that I pushed back didn't sit well with them so now we don't receive invites and we host our holiday dinners and gatherings.

Less stress all around for everyone.


Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours, Ohioboy.

kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
38. Isn't it amazing that we could get together during the Bush and Obama years but TFG created such
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 04:28 PM
Nov 2023

A division in friends and family with all his hate?

I’ve lost two longtime friends who fell into that cult rabbit hole.

Niagara

(11,852 posts)
41. Sadly, the other side of the family started political tirades during Obama's Presidency.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 08:42 PM
Nov 2023

They're the "everything is/was Obama's fault" type of people, just ask them, even if a person doesn't ask they'll yell about it anyways at family events and gatherings.



I'm sure it's gotten worse since they were already in that cult rabbit hole, luckily we don't have to listen to it anymore.



I'm sorry that you lost two longtime friends due to the cult, Kimbutgar.




AllaN01Bear

(29,496 posts)
22. where i am going , the host and hostess will not allow any political stuff.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 12:59 PM
Nov 2023

when the obama care was the thing . one relative kept singing , at least i get to keep my health care plan and the host sang out , so and so no political bs. we are there for the holiday and family . stay safe everyone .

Grumpy Old Guy

(4,319 posts)
23. I'm actually looking forward to it.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 01:00 PM
Nov 2023

I'm seeing one of my magat cousins this weekend. I'm going to ask him if supporting a traitor makes him a traitor too.

I can't wait.

Abolishinist

(2,958 posts)
43. Same here. I feel like I'm left out of all the fun!
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 10:11 PM
Nov 2023

Last edited Wed Nov 22, 2023, 11:10 PM - Edit history (1)

For me, nothing but good conversation, laughter, keeping up-to-date on what's going on. How boring!

MiHale

(13,032 posts)
28. Football is/has always been the featured topic...
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 01:38 PM
Nov 2023

In the past it used to be moaning about how bad the Lions are, remembering the Barry Sanders era, doing all the armchair coaching and analysis, then eating till paralysis set in.

Now that the Lions are 8-2 the flavor of discussion will be unprecedented.

We’re all Dems anyway! Happy Thanksgiving

TlalocW

(15,675 posts)
29. It's always me - the liberal loudmouth - that has to shut down talks of politics
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 01:42 PM
Nov 2023

And always when I'm trying to slip into a food coma on the couch.

My brother-in-law's stepdad is a holy roller (looks like a smarmy televangelist), and he literally just came up to me once and challenged me on something Obama did. I don't remember exactly what it was, but thanks to DU, I had read all about it so I fast-talked him (didn't give him a chance to respond) through what it really was and the conservative media misrepresentation of it and the obvious ways their interpretation was nonsense. His smug smile quickly disappeared, and he especially didn't like that I ended it with, "Any questions?" He walked off to complain to my equally-as-conservative-as-he-is sister about me in the kitchen, and I could hear her telling him it was his own fault for challenging me.

Another time, they actually brought up abortion while I was trying to feign that I was asleep, but my then nephew-in-law (who's an asshole) tried to rope me into it, and I responded with, "Really? We're going to do the whole bring up politics thing at Thanksgiving thing? Do you really think that's a good idea?" Entire family - except him - laughed, and they moved on.

 

dembotoz

(16,922 posts)
32. I have a son and conservative daughter in law that has slowly excluded the rest of the family
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 01:48 PM
Nov 2023

her family is big enough that we are not missed

 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
33. I have a different sort of family member.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 03:11 PM
Nov 2023

One who is as oblivious to and uninterested in politics as many people are to sports. An accomplished, intelligent & loving woman who doesn't know left from right in politics. Or care.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
34. No MAGA relatives in my family
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 03:14 PM
Nov 2023

If I had any, they would not be welcome at a Thanksgiving celebration. Especially since they pretty much despise everything Thanksgiving stands for.

AwakeAtLast

(14,315 posts)
37. That is exactly what I do!
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 04:25 PM
Nov 2023

There will be nothing that I can say that will change anyone's mind, and I don't feel like ruining my Thanksgiving. Hope you all have as good of a time as you can!

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
39. I solved this problem
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 04:36 PM
Nov 2023

By moving an inconvenient distance from all family--spouse's and mine. We can be there for an emergency, if need be, but no bloody way we'll live any closer.

Amazing how much aggro it saves us.

OldBaldy1701E

(11,142 posts)
50. Yes.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 10:53 PM
Nov 2023

And, you can do it the way I did, which is to not own a car and move a few hours away in a direction that is devoid of relatives. Then, you don't have to worry about it, as the suggestion of "Well, you could drive down and get me." usually shuts down any talk of attendance.

Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

totodeinhere

(13,688 posts)
51. They can say what they want and I don't care.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 10:58 PM
Nov 2023

I will be too busy eating turkey, mashed potatoes and gravy and stuffing to pay attention to anything else.

doc03

(39,086 posts)
55. In my experiance 90% of the time it is a MAGAt that tries to start
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 11:19 PM
Nov 2023

a political conversation especially if there is someone else that agrees with them.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,412 posts)
57. The most MAGA members are coming from AZ.
Thu Nov 23, 2023, 03:50 AM
Nov 2023

It's funny because they moved there to escape CA. And then in 2020 they lost to two Democtrats for the Senate and went for Biden. Then last year opted for Democrats and not the MAGA wackos.


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