What supporting Trump says about a person:

[tblue37]

[BootOutTheGoons]

1. Nailed it

Supporting Dump means supporting fascism, terror, hate, bigotry and death.

There's no "economic uncertainty" bullshit to hide behind now. Not that they even try to hide it anymore

[peppertree]

14. And that's what what Republicans these days want: a strongman who'll attack those they dislike for them

Seldom ends well for anyone though.

[BootOutTheGoons]

25. A Strongman. Not a truly strong man

Joe Biden is a truly strong man who is trying to look out for all people.

IQ45 is just a pathetic Strongman who "wins" by hurting others.

Neither he nor his death cult can tell the difference

[peppertree]

31. That their idea of governance alright

But with less Spanish.

[BootOutTheGoons]

32. It is sadly

They don't want leaders, they want iron-fisted rulers. This cult is even crazier than their "leaders"

[hatrack]

35. OK: Fujimori, Pinochet, Peron, X, Videla, Y . . .

Who are X and Y?

[peppertree]

37. Hi. Thanks for asking.

First row: Fujimori; Pinochet; Nicaragua's Anastasio Somoza (the elder)

Second row: Uruguay's Bordaberry (who, like Trump if he could've, was elected and then installed himself as dictator - only to be deposed himself because he didn't "go far enough" ); Videla (the worst of the six); and Cuba's Batista.

Juan Perón - though often labeled a "fascist" - was actually a very authoritarian social democrat: very pro-labor, women, minorities, religious freedom (first to include Jews and Agnostics in government) - and very much against corporate monopolies, absentee landowners, and holy rollers.

He also slashed the (then-bloated) defense budget, and plowed the savings into social programs - while paying off most of the foreign debt (which he warned would be used to plunder the country, if allowed to grow - as in fact later happened).

If you combined Bernie Sanders' policies, with Trump's tactics and crooked ethics - you'd probably get someone like Perón (except he was the one coup'ed by right-wingers, not the other way around).

Latin politics are full of layers and drama - especially Argentina's.

[hatrack]

38. He kind of looks like Peron, but yeah, Juan wouldn't fit the tighty-righty lineup here . . .

Banzer would have been a worthy addition - horrible enough that he hired Klaus Barbie for "professional advice" on how to crush opposition through torture.

[peppertree]

39. True. So many characters south of the border.

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Sadly, voters in Bolivia - nostalgic for the pre-collapse 1970s as many were - returned him to power in 1997.

Once in office again, Banzer became known for his war on indigenous coca growers - while doing nothing to stem the actual illicit trade - and for the Cochabamba Water War.

You'll recall that the city's (overwhelmingly poor) residents were barred from even collecting rainwater - lest it eat into Bechtel's profits.

He lost both wars - and then a third, with lung cancer.

Argentina's Tucumán Province - which is near Bolivia and has a large indigenous/mestizo population - had a similar experience:

The governor during the early years of the last dictatorship (the most brutal part), Antonio Bussi, was likewise returned to office by voters in 1995.

Tucumán - like most of the country's north - had been largely left out of the "Argentine miracle" of the early '90s.

But it didn't get any better under Bussi - who moreover was saddled by numerous corruption scandals (plus news of an undeclared Swiss bank account).

His 1976-era crimes finally caught up with him after former President Néstor Kirchner had immunity revoked for Dirty War-era perpetrators. Bussi was jailed in 2008, and died three years later.

His son Ricardo ran unsuccessfully a number of times - but may now be poised for a cabinet post thanks to his support for far-right firebreather Javier Milei (who, as you may have heard, was just elected president).

Like weeds, these fascist characters have a way of re-emerging - watered by elites as they often are.

Qué será.

[llmart]

19. "economic uncertainty"

Well, when I watched all the news and video of all the millions flying just for Thanksgiving I have to wonder how their complaints about the cost of a dozen eggs and gasoline line up with their ability to fly wherever with their whole slam damn family for Thanksgiving dinner. Supposedly it's record setting numbers of flyers.

[Shermann]

22. Really we need an average disposable income to gross income ratio

That (in combination with the unemployment rate) would cut through the bull and tell us how things are going.

[BootOutTheGoons]

26. Yes. Record setting number of people traveling

Gas prices falling. Other prices falling. Then again Dump isn't even bothering to try to run on the economy. It's all revenge and hate and bigotry all the time, as his cult eats it up

[Voltaire2]

3. Multiple PTSD level shocks to our population starting with 9-11

have created a condition where much of the population is at risk of mass psychosis. The situation has been exploited by well funded rightwing oligarchs controlling or manipulating mass media, including of course the new social media platforms, to magnify the risk and direct it toward a fascist revival that we are now in the midst of, not just here in the US, but globally.

The neofascists of course view their position as both necessary and moral. We are at risk from a plethora, a cornucopia of monsters of various sorts, all threatening to destroy 'our way of life'. Stern measuers are required to defeat the monsters. The great majority of our new fascists are psychotically delusional far more than they are immoral, although their leaders are generally not delusional and in fact fully aware of what they are doing and how they are doing it.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

10. Cambridge Analytica was a warning...

David Corn was given preview of documentary on Cambridge Analytica and says it's pure dynamite

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/23/leaked-cambridge-analyticas-blueprint-for-trump-victory

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a19485380/cambridge-analytica-ukraine/

FB, YouTube, Twitter, Cambridge Analytica, Russia, the GOP & Trump

[Voltaire2]

13. Yeah, we have been warned for a long time

I could rant about how weak the opposition to fascism is, but there is little point in doing that.

[onecaliberal]

4. K&R

[Probatim]

5. Not just that asshole, but an entire political party.

[Irish_Dem]

6. Trump is a living walking morality litmus test.

And IQ test too.

[progressoid]

7. I'm going to have Thanksgiving dinner with a couple on Friday.

One has been very quiet about Trump for the last couple years.
Not sure about the other one. I haven't seen her in 4 years so it should be interesting.

[BaronChocula]

8. Those people have been conditioned

to believe that the truth is what they say it is. Irredeemable. Deplorable.

[JoseBalow]

9. As soon as you mention that you support drumpf

it's like mentioning your boyfriend to Matt Berry...

[cutroot]

11. My right wing neighbors decision making process is so flawed now that I won't lend him my utility trailer

His big hero is a lying cheating fraudulent traitor. I suspect he would lie and cheat too
Their fearless leader has made it ok for them to be dishonest.

[Raven]

12. or Democracy.

[bluestarone]

15. Yea, I would have thought that would be

Number ONE?

[appalachiablue]

20. +1 I was about to add DEMOCRACY, minmized & demonized by fascists

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

16. Whatever it says isn't showing up on my computer.

nt

[lastlib]

17. Or American Democracy n/t

[appalachiablue]

21. +1

[calimary]

18. This! Outstanding graphic. A keeper.

[Ohioboy]

23. So true

It also means you are fine with someone that purposely divides the country, opening us up for all the damaging things that brings.

[vanlassie]

24. Years ago comedienne Janeane Garofalo

said (paraphrasing) “At this point, I consider it to be a character flaw.”

[patphil]

27. It's a testimonial of their lack of love.

They represent the dark side of humanity.

[Evolve Dammit]

28. This

[Evolve Dammit]

29. Perfectly stated. Bumper sticker

[Rebl2]

30. So very true

[Skittles]

33. that was pretty much always true

yes indeed

[hay rick]

34. This was true in 2020, moreso now...

[Crowman2009]

36. Trump could piss in a cup, tell them it's lemonade, and they would drink it.

Tuberville would gulp it all down and say: My my yes suh I must say this is the finest lemonade I have evah had tha plesha of consuming. Country Time is infinitely inferiah to a connasuwah such as yo self.

[mwb970]

40. I find trump supporters to be profoundly ignorant and not very smart.

In fact, does ANY smart person worship trump? I doubt it. But every single deeply stupid person in America is ready to die for the filthy SOB.

Oh what a world!

[Maraya1969]

42. I think they all graduated in the bottom of their high school class. It would be

funny if someone could find out this information and tell it to America

[usaf-vet]

43. We could all start by looking at national K-12 education standards. State by state. My guess is the southern.....

....... red states will all be solidly in the bottom rankings. And they are working hard to make their schools worse.

In other words, they are creating future cult followers who won't know any better.

Here is one source:

https://www.intelligent.com/the-best-and-worst-states-for-education/

[Maraya1969]

44. Thanks!

[Wednesdays]

45. 4 of the bottom 5 states are deep-red states

What's up with New Mexico?

[usaf-vet]

46. What chance do those kids have with the education they are getting embedded with right-wing delusions?

Become cultist??

[UTUSN]

47. K&R