John Kirby on genocide.

[lapucelle]

Link to tweet

Again, people can say what they want on - on the sidewalk and that - and we respect that. That's what the First Amendment is about. But this word "genocide" is getting thrown around in a pretty inappropriate way by lots of different folks.

What Hamas wants, make no mistake about it, is genocide They want to wipe Israel off the map. They've said so publicly on more than one occasion - in fact, just recently. And they've said that they're not going to stop, what happened on the 7th of October is going to happen again and again and again. And what happened on the 7th of October? Murder. Slaughter of innocent people in their homes or at a music festival. That's genocidal intentions.

Yes, there are too many civilian casualties in Gaza. Yes, the numbers are too high. Yes, fam- - too many families are grieving. And yes, we continue to urge the Israelis to be as careful and cautious as possible. That's not going to stop, from the President right on down.

But Israel is not trying to wipe the Palestinian people off the map. Israel is not trying to wipe Gaza off the map. Israel is trying to defend itself against a genocidal terrorist threat. So, when we're going to start - if we're going to start using that word, fine, let's use it appropriately.

[Tomconroy]

1. Admiral Kirby is the best adminstration spokesperson

That I have ever seen. And that goes for any administration. I used to read the transcripts of his press briefings at the Pentagon before he went to work at the White House and think: Who is this guy?

[lapucelle]

2. I'm glad he's trying to correct the record on the claims being made against Israel

concerning "genocide".

It's reassuring that there are serious people pushing back on agenda-driven of sloganeers.

[Demsrule86]

3. Hamas attacked and murderer Israelis men, women and children. They were the

aggressors and committed mass murder. I don't like the policies of right-wing Netanyahu. I think he needs to go and is responsible for the security lapses that allowed this to happen. That being said, those who attack Joe Biden over this are completely clueless about the situation. We don't control Israel. And the attacks on Jewish Americans at colleges and elsewhere are despicable and pointless; anti-semitism seems to be prevalent in our country even among the young which saddens me.

[Cha]

15. Rec.. TY TomConroy.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

65. I got to hear Admiral Kirby on a Jewish Democrats for Biden zoom call on Wednesday

It was a great presentation. He is a great spokesperson

[GuppyGal]

4. I find it outrageous that the people who were victims of legit genocide are now being accused of it when

that is obviously not what they are doing. You can call Israel's response a lot of different things if you don't agree with but don't call if genocide for fucks sake.

[womanofthehills]

19. I like this guy at the Macy's parade today

Link to tweet

?s=46&t=YZgyyp4w_z7vW3neKxa6cQ

Um- I definitely think it’s genocide when you hold back food, water, fuel, electricity and
bomb half the population’s houses. The big genocide is when cholera & disease attacks the whole population because people now have to relieve themselves in the street. One or two toilets for 1000 people living in tents.

[lapucelle]

28. Not only does that video looks staged, but it's also a pretty odd take on the question of genocide,

given that genocide is a war crime of intent, not a measure of the number of days fighting has gone on since Hamas started the war.

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John Kirby on genocide:

Again, people can say what they want on - on the sidewalk and that - and we respect that. That's what the First Amendment is about. But this word "genocide" is getting thrown around in a pretty inappropriate way by lots of different folks.

But Israel is not trying to wipe the Palestinian people off the map. Israel is not trying to wipe Gaza off the map. Israel is trying to defend itself against a genocidal terrorist threat. So, when we're going to start - if we're going to start using that word, fine, let's use it appropriately.

=============================================

As for Danny Haiphong, he's a pro-Russia, anti-Nato conspiracy theorist.

Link to tweet

[GuppyGal]

33. Oh that's right it's Israel's Declaration of Independence that they want to wipe out Palestinians .

oh wait do I have that mixed up again. Egypt is committing genocide too then. Good Grief.

[betsuni]

36. +1

[peppertree]

5. Try Genocide BIBI

It's not Joe's fault, for starters.

We all know what Nutty-yahoo's like: part Milosevic, part Putin, part Idi Amin - with a dash of Trump.

There's nothing Biden can do or say to restrain him - or Ham-ass - in the least.

[lapucelle]

6. As John Kirby righfully notes, there is no genocide on Israel's part.

[womanofthehills]

20. Here is Kirby saying when these things are done to Ukraine it's depravity

White House NSC spokesman John Kirby on Russia’s bombing of Ukraine:

“Into civilian infrastructure, knocking out the heat, knocking out the power… and hitting, quite literally, innocent civilian targets, playgrounds schools, hospitals. It’s utter depravity.”

Link to tweet

?s=46&t=YZgyyp4w_z7vW3neKxa6cQ

Sounds to me like genocide

Link to tweet

?s=46&t=YZgyyp4w_z7vW3neKxa6cQ

[Cha]

24. Russia Invaded Ukraine.. HAMAS Invaded Israel.. Fuck HAMAS & Russia.

Israel has Warned Palestine..

The Fucking HAMAS did NOT Warni Israel.

Link to tweet

Hamas Butchers Started Their Genlocide Shit on Oct 7th..

Link to tweet

And Shit yeah they promise to Repeat it Ad infinitum..

Link to tweet

[LetMyPeopleVote]

7. Israel is NOT committing genocide

[womanofthehills]

21. Yea they are

Listen to Netanyahu!

Link to tweet

?s=46&t=YZgyyp4w_z7vW3neKxa6cQ

[Cha]

23. NO Israel is NOT.

[NoRethugFriends]

26. why don't you just stop that crap

[Cha]

27. Rec 💙🌊🇺🇸

[LetMyPeopleVote]

47. Both you and your source are wrong

Taking comments out of context with obvious poorly edited quotes do not help your cause.

[NotVeryImportant]

8. Uhm, it is genocide

"Genocide, the deliberate and systematic destruction of a group of people because of their ethnicity, nationality, religion, or race."
Source: https://www.britannica.com/topic/genocide

And there's tons of Israeli cabinet members calling for it. Watch this...

&pp=ygUTam9obiBraXJieSBnZW5vY2lkZQ%3D%3D

[Cha]

9. No it Isn't and Fuck OFF to anyone who's calling Pres Biden "Genocide Joe".

[W_HAMILTON]

10. If it's genocide, they're doing a pretty shit job of it.

Millions of people in an urban, densely populated, relatively small area, and there are ~10k-15k dead?

It's not genocide -- it's war.

And it's a war that was started by Hamas.

If Hamas wants the war to end, they should release all the hostages and begin negotiations regarding their surrender to Israel.

[NotVeryImportant]

12. Would you accept some flippant dismissal of a military killing your family due to a "war?"

Especially if you didn't start it? This is the perspective of the innocent Palestinian individual, to spell it out for you.

[W_HAMILTON]

13. Their political leaders started it.

And if it were me, I would vote for political leaders that did not engage in such provocative attacks that resulted in starting a war with a country with much stronger military capabilities.

I don't need it spelled out to me. You need it spelled out to you. This is war, and it is not a war Israel started.

And if Israel should be held accountable for the actions of its leader (Netanyahu), why do you not hold Gaza to the same standards? Especially given that Hamas/Gaza were the instigators and aggressors here -- NOT Netanyahu/Israel. Those ten thousand or so Gazan deaths, they would be alive today had Hamas not launched its attack in early October.

[NotVeryImportant]

14. Nobody is buying this genocidal BS.

And it's not making Israel any safer.

So keep it up, so how it works out for you.

[Cha]

16. It's WAR and GD Hamas Started this Ugly SHIT.. & HAMAS doesn't give a shit about Palestinians.

Link to tweet

Hamas Butchers Started Their Genlocide Shit on Oct 7th..

Link to tweet

And Shit yeah they promise to Repeat it Ad infinitum..

Link to tweet

[W_HAMILTON]

41. It doesn't matter what random people on the internet wrongly think it is or if they are """buying it""" or not.

It's the fact of the matter.

Keep yelling into the void about a ceasefire and see how that works out for you or the Gazans you claim to care so much about.

If you actually cared about them, you would be doing as I said, which is (1) call for immediate release of the hostages; (2) call for Hamas to surrender; and (3) have whatever political leadership that comes after Hamas immediately enter into negotiations with Israel to end the war.

This is how the Hamas-started war will end -- not by TikTokers getting mad about it on TikTok.

[Uncle Joe]

17. If Hamas is holding the Palestinian people in Gaza as "human shields," de facto

that's kidnapping, thus Hamas is holding the Palestinian People as hostage and the people have no "political leaders."

There has been no election in Gaza since 2006, and almost 50% of the population is under 18.

So Hamas is hiding in fortified tunnels underneath the city and has effectively kidnapped the Palestinian People in Gaza.

Netanyahu's de facto response, was to kill 13,000+ Palestinian hostages, 5000+ of which are children while destroying or damaging 56,000+ buildings on the surface including every major hospital.

If you're "living" on the surface of Gaza, you're literally being squeezed to death by both sides from the inside and out.

Gaza for decades has been the equivalent of an unsupervised pressure cooker for the Palestinian People "living" there, an explosion as occurred on October 7th was a natural result of that long term political malpractice.

If you're "living" in the pressure cooker of Gaza, there are no good guys, everyone is evil, and Israel's government is doing nothing to change that perception.

[lapucelle]

34. Hamas's use of civilians as human shields is not kidnapping

anymore than Israel engaging in a defensive war is genocide. Similarly, the people of Gaza are victims of Hamas, but they are not hostages.

Words have meaning.

[Uncle Joe]

35. Yes, that's the point of my post, words do have meaning

and a human being being diminished to the status of "human shield" de facto depends on being held as a hostage.

Unless you see people volunteering to be a "human shield."

I don't believe there is a long line for that ride.

The Palestinian people in Gaza have never even had the right to vote since George W. Bush was in his second term period, much less voting for Hamas.

[lapucelle]

38. Actually, no, human shields are not de facto "hostages".

A hostage is a person seized by an abductor in order to compel another party, one which places a high value on the liberty, well-being and safety of the person seized—such as a relative, employer, law enforcement, or government—to act, or refrain from acting, in a certain way, often under threat of serious physical harm or death to the hostage(s) after expiration of an ultimatum.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostage

A human shieldis a non-combatant (or a group of non-combatants) who either volunteers or is forced to shield a legitimate military target in order to deter the enemy from attacking i

t.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_shield#cite_note-1

[Uncle Joe]

40. Your post argues against itself and de facto they are the same.

A hostage is a person seized by an abductor in order to compel another party, one which places a high value on the liberty, well-being and safety of the person seized—such as a relative, employer, law enforcement, or government—to act, or refrain from acting, in a certain way, often under threat of serious physical harm or death to the hostage(s) after expiration of an ultimatum.





A human shieldis a non-combatant (or a group of non-combatants) who either volunteers or is forced to shield a legitimate military target in order to deter the enemy from attacking.




The overwhelming majority of killed and wounded Palestinians in Gaza are NOT volunteer human shields.

They're just people trying live life in hellish conditions.

[lapucelle]

42. Nor were they "seized by an abduction".

A hostage is a person seized by an abduction

.

[Uncle Joe]

43. If a kidnapped pregnant woman gave birth while she was abducted,

would her infant be a hostage or a human shield?

[Cha]

58. you lose.

[Uncle Joe]

59. That's the way I see the children of Gaza and they're the ones that are losing. n/t

[Cha]

60. The Fucking Terrorist org Hamas of Gaza made Sure of That when

they butchered the Babies of Israel AND RAPED their Women.. Fucking Assholes. . Hamas knew it was coming .. Israel did NOT.

Their Genocide Shit on Oct 7th..

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

And Shit yeah they promise to Repeat it Ad infinitum..

Link to tweet

[Uncle Joe]

61. I have never been of the belief that one stupid piece of evil justifies another.

The Tar-Baby is the second of the Uncle Remus stories published in 1881; it is about a doll made of tar and turpentine used by the villainous Br'er Fox to entrap Br'er Rabbit. The more that Br'er Rabbit fights the Tar-Baby, the more entangled he becomes.

In modern usage, tar-baby refers to a problematic situation that is only aggravated by additional involvement with it.[1]

A story originally published in Harper's Weekly by Robert Roosevelt,[volume & issue needed] features Br'er Fox, who constructs a doll out of a lump of tar and dresses it with some clothes. When Br'er Rabbit comes along, he addresses the tar "baby" amiably, but receives no response. Br'er Rabbit becomes offended by what he perceives as the tar baby's lack of manners, punches it and, in doing so, becomes stuck. The more Br'er Rabbit punches and kicks the tar baby out of rage, the worse he gets stuck.

Now that Br'er Rabbit is stuck, Br'er Fox ponders how to dispose of him. The helpless but cunning Br'er Rabbit pleads, "Do anything you want with me – roas' me, hang me, skin me, drown me – but please, Br'er Fox, don't fling me in dat brier-patch", prompting the sadistic Br'er Fox to do exactly that because he gullibly believes it will inflict the maximum pain on Br'er Rabbit. However, as rabbits are at home in thickets like the brier-patch, the resourceful Br'er Rabbit escapes.

Years later Joel Chandler Harris wrote of the Tar-Baby in his Uncle Remus stories.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar-Baby

[Cha]

62. You're WRONG.. Israel is NOT "evil" They're

Fighting For their LIVES.

Hamas knew this would happen and didn't give one Shit about the civilians in GAZA.. They've been taped Shooting them when they tried to Leave.

GD Fucking Hamas ASSHOLES.

That's it I'm done here.

[Uncle Joe]

63. Maybe I wasn't clear but I meant the acts as being stupid pieces of evil;

that which happened on October 7th and that which has happened since.

Edit to add, For that matter, the past half century is full of stupid evil acts one following after the other, stupidity and evil are both a dead end and humanity can't afford it anymore.

That's why ultimately Israel's peace and security is best guaranteed by eventually working out a peace treaty and having a free, democratic Palestinian state in one form or another.

[lapucelle]

64. And then there's this bewildering paragraph.

Gaza for decades has been the equivalent of an unsupervised pressure cooker for the Palestinian People "living" there, an explosion as occurred on October 7th was a natural result of that long term political malpractice.

- The sustained, eight hour spree of rape, torture, and hands-on butchery by Hamas is a "natural result".

- It also sounds as if the the Palestinian People are are being conflated with terrorists and are somehow responsible for the "explosion" of barbaric violence that Hamas terrorists inflicted on Israeli civilians in their own homes.

- The political malpractice committed in Gaza was committed by the ruling political power...Hamas. Hamas created an open-air prison by appropriating billions of dollars in humanitarian aid meant to improve the lives of Gazans and squandering it on weaponry and military infrastructure.

And finally, if it were true that Gazans were "kidnapped" by Hamas and are therefore "hostages", why aren't there any large-scale anti-Hamas protests from pro-Palestinian activists?

[W_HAMILTON]

44. So the Gazan people support Israel overthrowing the Hamas leadership that led them into this war then?

If not, was there widespread support among Gazans for Hamas's ouster prior to this Hamas-started war?

If not, where are you getting that they do not support Hamas?

Are you essentially claiming Hamas is similar to Sadaam's Iraq and the Taliban's Afghanistan and the Gazan people are beholden to a dictatorial regime that they hate but do not have the power to overthrow themselves? In which case, now would be the perfect time for them to demand: (1) Hamas to release the hostages; (2) Hamas to surrender; and (3) new political leadership to take over for Hamas and negotiate an end to this Hamas-started war.

[Uncle Joe]

45. I believe the Palestinian people would be much more likely to if they weren't bombed to hell.

You can't love or even mildly like the people that are killing your family and friends while destroying your neighborhoods, schools and hospitals.

I also believe if we never had an election since George W. Bush was in his second term, it could only be possible because the American People didn't have power.

When you're poor, desperate and living on the edge of life, the luxuries of choice are few.

Gaza; living under total blockade for well over a decade if anything has been one of the poorest and most desperate regions on Earth.

The Palestinian people in Gaza haven't had freedom or power.

[W_HAMILTON]

49. They hadn't been """bombed to hell""" until Hamas started its war.

So, there was ample opportunity.

And it appears as though you believe that the Gazan people were helpless to do anything against the political leaders they themselves voted in, so, once again, there is no better time to push for their ouster now, when Israel is looking to do that for them.

If they themselves have no power to overthrow Hamas -- which, again, is accepting your view of the situation, which I do not necessarily share -- then they will need an outside force to overthrow Hamas, and they have now gotten that with Hamas starting its war with Israel.

People will die, yes, but that is inevitable in war -- especially one against, in your characterization, a dictatorial regime that refuses to relinquish power otherwise.

If you want to end the bloodshed, once again, you should be: (1) calling for Hamas to release the hostages; (2) calling for Hamas to surrender; and (3) calling for new Gazan political leadership to enter into negotiations to end the Hamas-started war with Israel. Are you doing that?

[Uncle Joe]

52. As I stated from my previous post

"When you're poor, desperate and living on the edge of life, the luxuries of choice are few.

Gaza; living under total blockade for well over a decade if anything has been one of the poorest and most desperate regions on Earth."

The Palestinian people in Gaza haven't had freedom or power.

Gaza has been called and for good reason, "the world's largest open air prison" prisoners generally don't have power except for a very select few; the top of the heap.

You can't overthrow or change your government, any government if the citizens don't have power.

Hamas has been the guards on the inside and the IDF on the outside.

Children in Gaza have been killed by the scores from Israel's soldiers since the beginning of the year.

I'm calling for the release of all hostages whether held by Hamas or Israel, a cease fire, Hamas' (whatever is left of them) recognition of Israel's right to exist, freedom for the Palestinian people to hold fair elections to choose their leadership combined with a peace agreement and permanent one or two state solution.

I have posted of a promising one state confederation hybrid model, I will see if I can find it.

[Uncle Joe]

56. P.S. Here is the video post that I was speaking of regarding the hybrid model.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/13211952

[Cha]

46. There's this.. Survey finds majority in the West Bank support the Oct 7 massacre

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218461353

[W_HAMILTON]

50. Yep, I've seen that.

Which is why I do not make the same assertions that the other poster did, but I am fine with accepting his personal characterization on the topic because it matters little to my overall point. But fact of the matter is there is certainly plenty of evidence that disputes the notion that the Gazan people viewed Hamas as the same sort of dictatorial regime that some posters are trying to characterize them as now for political expediency rather than their chosen and approved of leaders.

[Think. Again.]

53. and then there's this....

From foreignaffairs.com:

"The argument that the entire population of Gaza can be held responsible for Hamas’s actions is quickly discredited when one looks at the facts. Arab Barometer, a research network where we serve as co-principal investigators, conducted a survey in Gaza and the West Bank days before the Israel-Hamas war broke out. The findings, published here for the first time, reveal that rather than supporting Hamas, the vast majority of Gazans have been frustrated with the armed group’s ineffective governance as they endure extreme economic hardship. Most Gazans do not align themselves with Hamas’s ideology, either. Unlike Hamas, whose goal is to destroy the Israeli state, the majority of survey respondents favored a two-state solution with an independent Palestine and Israel existing side by side.

(Full article: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/israel/what-palestinians-really-think-hamas )

[Think. Again.]

54. about your claim of vwidespread support of hamas...

From foreignaffairs.com:

"The argument that the entire population of Gaza can be held responsible for Hamas’s actions is quickly discredited when one looks at the facts. Arab Barometer, a research network where we serve as co-principal investigators, conducted a survey in Gaza and the West Bank days before the Israel-Hamas war broke out. The findings, published here for the first time, reveal that rather than supporting Hamas, the vast majority of Gazans have been frustrated with the armed group’s ineffective governance as they endure extreme economic hardship. Most Gazans do not align themselves with Hamas’s ideology, either. Unlike Hamas, whose goal is to destroy the Israeli state, the majority of survey respondents favored a two-state solution with an independent Palestine and Israel existing side by side.

(Full article: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/israel/what-palestinians-really-think-hamas )

[mcar]

66. Hope you didn't get a crick in your neck

twisting yourself into a pretzel to blame Israel for Hamas using Palestinians as human shields.

[Kennah]

67. How different is that from Dresden civilian survivors speaking out about the bombing of their city?

[EX500rider]

71. Is every war where civilians are killed "genocide" or only when Israel does it?

I will wait while you find me the war where zero civilian's died.

Then I will wait even longer while you find me one where the attacking force calls you and warns you to leave before the bombing.

tick tock

[NotVeryImportant]

72. Sure...

Whenever you find me where innocent people are killed flippantly by military and/or police forces calling them "human shields" other than Palestinians.

Don't worry, I'll wait.

[EX500rider]

73. So you think Hamas does not use human shields?

According to NATO,[1][2] the UN,[3] EU,[4] US,[5][6] Israel,[7][8][9] and a number of European countries,[10] Hamas and other Palestinian militant groups have deliberately employed Gaza's civilian population as human shields. This tactic includes launching rockets, positioning military-related infrastructure in civilian areas, and engaging the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) from or near residential and commercial zones

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_human_shields_by_Hamas#:~:text=According%20to%20another%20New%20York,%22it's%20been%20described...

[NotVeryImportant]

75. Are you going to find another instance of military and/or police force flippantly using the term "human shields"

as an excuse to kill innocent civilians, yes. or. no?

[EX500rider]

77. Well gosh maybe the Palestinian terrorists are the only ones who do that

Which you can either agree with or you can go find examples and prove yourself wrong

Of course you haven't answered my questions but I don't believe you will.

[NotVeryImportant]

81. It's the IDF, or should I say the Israeli Offense Department, and their local police forces who

Regularly, brutalize, maim and kill Palestinian citizens claiming the ,flippant, bogus excuse of "well, they're just human shields."

You know it, and I know it, so stop lying.

[EX500rider]

82. No lying at my end

Hmmm, who to believe, anonymous poster on the internet, or these people:

According to NATO, the UN, EU, US, Israel, and a number of European countries, Hamas and other Palestinian militant groups have deliberately employed Gaza's civilian population as human shields. This tactic includes launching rockets, positioning military-related infrastructure in civilian areas, and engaging the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) from or near residential and commercial zones

[NotVeryImportant]

83. No one is forcing the Israeli's to bomb these innocent civilians to death.

But, carry on.

[EX500rider]

84. When the IDF tells you to move South before they bomb

It's perhaps better to do so

[NotVeryImportant]

85. No sooner than the citizens moved south

The genociders started bombing the south.

Keep it up.

[EX500rider]

86. No I don't think Hamas has been bombing the South your mistaken

[lapucelle]

11. Uhm...no it's not. Cenk Uygur? Isn't he the asshat who denies the Armenian genocide

and named his Youtube channel after the group that perpetrated that genocide because “it’s a cool name”?

[lapucelle]

30. I don't watch Armenian genocide denier Cenk Uygur's Youtube channel.

[Cha]

18. Kick for Reality.

[lapucelle]

29. Rec for "Kick for Reality".

Mahaloooooooooo!!!

[Cha]

31. Never ending Struggle to

Fight For Reality Reports. .. We're Surrounded.

Mahalo to you for Keeping the Light Shining

[sheshe2]

22. Recommend.

This!

[betsuni]

32. K&R

[Patton French]

37. But wait!

As stated by a poster, Hamas is a champion of human rights.

NOT!

[EllieBC]

39. I want to say I'm shocked but

I can’t. Was this here??

[Cha]

48. Never mind.. I think I misunderstood.

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TY

[EllieBC]

55. I think

they mean someone here said Hamas were human rights supporters.

It wouldn’t shock me if someone said that. Lots of masks came off. 😞

[Cha]

57. Yes, There's an OP "justifying Terrorism"

with some recs but so far no one has given voice to it.

Thank You

[Patton French]

74. Yes, there was a poster who said Hamas is fighting for human rights.

And they were defended by some as misunderstood.

[Cha]

51. Sorry.. what do you mean? ETA... Never mind

Last edited Fri Nov 24, 2023, 02:39 AM - Edit history (1)

I figured it out with a little help.

[Cha]

68. Kicking 💙🌊🇺🇸🕯️🕊️

[Butterflylady]

69. Same story, different day..

Maybe it's not genocide, but there getting rid of them and that was Netanyahu and his gang wanted all along.
45% of their homes are gone. Do you really think they're going to rebuild them and go
Back there?

[lapucelle]

70. Thank you for affirming that Israel is not engaging in genocide.

[enid602]

76. spokesperson

Do you for a moment think that a high administration spokesperson would say what he’s really thinking? About an ally’s war that the US is financing?

[lapucelle]

78. Yes, I do think that John Kirby is saying what he's really thinking.

In addition to that, what Kirby is saying is true.

Call me old fashioned, but I'm part of the "legal terms have specific meanings" crowd.

genocide
the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

Genocide is defined in § 1091 and includes violent attacks with the specific intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.

https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-19-genocide-18-usc-1091

[Initech]

80. The sooner Hamas' existence is rid from this world, the better!

They are the clear bad guy here and they're playing both sides for chumps.