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applegrove

(132,217 posts)
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 01:42 AM Nov 2023

Trump Pledges Again to End Obamacare

Trump Pledges Again to End Obamacare

November 25, 2023 at 11:23 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 57 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2023/11/25/trump-pledges-again-to-end-obamacare/

"SNIP..........

Donald Trump said on Truth Social he is “seriously looking at alternatives” to the Affordable Care Act if he returns to the White House

Said Trump: “We had a couple of Republican Senators who campaigned for 6 years against it, and then raised their hands not to terminate it. It was a low point for the Republican Party, but we should never give up!”

.........SNIP"

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Trump Pledges Again to End Obamacare (Original Post) applegrove Nov 2023 OP
I don't mind anyone looking at viable alternatives to ACA. But can't imagine trump's ideas-- Bleach, Silent Type Nov 2023 #1
Republicans want americans dead. That is their medicare, applegrove Nov 2023 #2
Exactly, the plan will be to take away healthcare from Americans. Irish_Dem Nov 2023 #11
That is the Republican plan Seinan Sensei Nov 2023 #30
He kept saying he was "getting ready" to release an alternative. Never did. yardwork Nov 2023 #14
they have to claim they are replacing it MadameButterfly Nov 2023 #35
I truly believe that this is the most important election of my lifetime. yardwork Nov 2023 #36
yep MadameButterfly Nov 2023 #41
Golden Oldies Prairie Gates Nov 2023 #3
Will he have a suggestion in 2 weeks? MiniMe Nov 2023 #4
As said before, "Donald Trump is TOO STUPID TO KNOW THAT HE IS STUPID" Stuart G Nov 2023 #5
It isn't up to Trump. J_William_Ryan Nov 2023 #6
"our alternative to Obamacare will be unveiled in 2 weeks"--- DemocraticPatriot Nov 2023 #7
YES! YES! YES! BaronChocula Nov 2023 #8
It'll be "GOPeeDon'tCare"........ lastlib Nov 2023 #9
I can't wait to see Trump's plan for providing healthcare to Americans. Irish_Dem Nov 2023 #10
It's simple: musette_sf Nov 2023 #12
And he still walks free. Hotler Nov 2023 #13
He doesn't even know what Obamacare is Johonny Nov 2023 #15
He had 4 years to introduce his plan n/t leftstreet Nov 2023 #16
In July, It's coming in July, August at the latest. twodogsbarking Nov 2023 #26
I thought he did that on day one gratuitous Nov 2023 #17
I'll sure be happy when he assumes room temperature! bif Nov 2023 #18
? applegrove Nov 2023 #19
When he's dead bif Nov 2023 #20
Captain Ahab must pursue his whale bmichaelh Nov 2023 #21
Well, except for how Ahab ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #32
Because in 4 years of his presidency, he never bothered to release his super secret plan IronLionZion Nov 2023 #22
whats your plan trump? none . AllaN01Bear Nov 2023 #23
'Donald Trump said on Truth Social he is "seriously looking at alternatives" to the Affordable Care Act' Ray Bruns Nov 2023 #24
Trump approved this Republican health care plan in 2017 - that failed by only one vote progree Nov 2023 #25
This "strategy" hasn't worked as often as it's been tried. ificandream Nov 2023 #27
John Lennon said it best, Imagine there's health care for all. twodogsbarking Nov 2023 #28
As the wise man said, Shipwack Nov 2023 #33
I wonder how many ailing Trump Chps or their Trump Chump Vogon_Glory Nov 2023 #29
The idiot had four years to do it before ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #31
Obamacare is more popular now EnergizedLib Nov 2023 #34
Exactly. Republicans attacks on the ACA in 2017-2018 helped them win the House in 2018 (and thank god they did) LymphocyteLover Nov 2023 #39
Look! It's the old internet definition of insanity. LudwigPastorius Nov 2023 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Nov 2023 #38
35 million Americans have Obamacare. He thinks he is going to take their Maraya1969 Nov 2023 #40
What's next, build a border wall and make Mexico Emile Nov 2023 #42
 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
1. I don't mind anyone looking at viable alternatives to ACA. But can't imagine trump's ideas-- Bleach,
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 01:47 AM
Nov 2023

bright lights up our rears, etc.

applegrove

(132,217 posts)
2. Republicans want americans dead. That is their medicare,
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 01:53 AM
Nov 2023

social security, climate, and electoral plans. Dead people. Only the rich will be able to age in their world. Or evangelicals who vote for them.

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
11. Exactly, the plan will be to take away healthcare from Americans.
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 09:24 AM
Nov 2023

Sick and old people only take money away from the wealthy who believe all money belongs to them.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
14. He kept saying he was "getting ready" to release an alternative. Never did.
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 11:37 AM
Nov 2023

It's just talk.

MadameButterfly

(4,039 posts)
35. they have to claim they are replacing it
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 02:58 PM
Nov 2023

but they've had years to suggest an alternative. They never do. Trump will just abolish it along with democracy.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
36. I truly believe that this is the most important election of my lifetime.
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 02:59 PM
Nov 2023

If Trump gets back in the White House I think our democracy is doomed.

Prairie Gates

(8,157 posts)
3. Golden Oldies
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 02:12 AM
Nov 2023

Does anyone care about ending Obamacare anymore? Dude’s playing Dark Side of the Moon at an EDM show.

MiniMe

(21,883 posts)
4. Will he have a suggestion in 2 weeks?
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 02:15 AM
Nov 2023

He kept saying that he would have an alternative in 2 weeks. We never heard an alternative.

J_William_Ryan

(3,496 posts)
6. It isn't up to Trump.
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 03:03 AM
Nov 2023

It’s up to Congress.

Trump and his Cult members are too ignorant to understand that.

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
7. "our alternative to Obamacare will be unveiled in 2 weeks"---
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 03:29 AM
Nov 2023

how many years ago was that ???

Still waiting for the release of that "proof" that the 2020 election was "stolen"---

Yeah, it was "stolen" all right--- by people who exercised their right to VOTE!

(Trump and the MAGAts think that many of those people should HAVE no right to vote--
that is why they consider the election "stolen", with no proof of any actual voter fraud--
except for the handful of MAGAts who cast extra votes, or cast votes on behalf of their dead relatives...)

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
10. I can't wait to see Trump's plan for providing healthcare to Americans.
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 09:21 AM
Nov 2023

I am sure it will be a barnburner.

musette_sf

(10,487 posts)
12. It's simple:
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 10:10 AM
Nov 2023

Everyone will receive a glowing bill of health from his concierge osteopath. Hey presto - no procedures or medications ever needed!

Johonny

(26,179 posts)
15. He doesn't even know what Obamacare is
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 12:06 PM
Nov 2023

He doesn't know anything. Why is he still a thing?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
17. I thought he did that on day one
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 12:13 PM
Nov 2023

At least, that's what he was promising his credulous supporters all through the 2016 campaign. What happened to that, Donald?

bmichaelh

(1,181 posts)
21. Captain Ahab must pursue his whale
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 10:40 AM
Nov 2023

Trump has often been compared to Captain Ahab.

Both have their pathological obsessions.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
32. Well, except for how Ahab
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 02:08 PM
Nov 2023

Was actually competent at his job. Well, outside of his obsession. Obsessed to a pathological degree, but not incompetent.

Ray Bruns

(6,362 posts)
24. 'Donald Trump said on Truth Social he is "seriously looking at alternatives" to the Affordable Care Act'
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 11:44 AM
Nov 2023

Donald Trump is a lying sack of shit who will say anything he thinks his brain dead followers will eat up.

progree

(12,977 posts)
25. Trump approved this Republican health care plan in 2017 - that failed by only one vote
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 11:50 AM
Nov 2023

the AHCA and the BCRA. Problem: they were awful

This Wikipedia articles covers both the AHCA (American Health Care Act) and the BCRA (Better Care Reconciliation Act)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Health_Care_Act_of_2017

H.R. 1628, American Health Care Act of 2017, Cost Estimate, CBO, 5/24/17
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52752
would increase the number of people who are uninsured by 23 million in 2026 relative to current law.


H.R. 1628, Better Care Reconciliation Act of 2017, Cost Estimate, CBO, 6/26/17
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52849
A little bit better: leaving 22 million uninsured in 2026 relative to current law.

This is the one that Senator John McCain famously turned thumbs down on. Otherwise it would have become law.
Start at 2:45



Both can only be described as acts of American Genocide. We need to call the GOP the American Genocide Party.

And no, emergency rooms are not comprehensive health care -- they do just enough to stabilize you and then give you a fistful of prescriptions that you can't afford to fill, and a bunch of referrals to doctors and specialists that you can't afford to see if you are like most uninsured. And I'm not talking about some aberrant ones that have been in a news, wheeling someone out onto the sidewalk and leaving them there. No, no, no, I'm talking about ALL of them. ALL.

ificandream

(11,837 posts)
27. This "strategy" hasn't worked as often as it's been tried.
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 12:08 PM
Nov 2023

And it won't work this time. It's the easiest way to get people to vote against you, dummy.

twodogsbarking

(18,785 posts)
28. John Lennon said it best, Imagine there's health care for all.
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 12:14 PM
Nov 2023

I made that up, but wtf, it's the intahnet.

Shipwack

(3,065 posts)
33. As the wise man said,
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 02:21 PM
Nov 2023

"You can't believe everything you read on the Internet!" - Abraham Lincoln

Vogon_Glory

(10,297 posts)
29. I wonder how many ailing Trump Chps or their Trump Chump
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 01:47 PM
Nov 2023

caregivers are fool enough to ignore the warning signs and vote for Orange Julius anyway?

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
31. The idiot had four years to do it before
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 02:03 PM
Nov 2023

He won't fare any better next time, unless he and his fellow traitor thugs have seriously bollixed the election system for their own benefit.

EnergizedLib

(3,040 posts)
34. Obamacare is more popular now
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 02:27 PM
Nov 2023

The ACA cost Dems big time in 2010.

Fast forward to TFG’s tax cuts in 2017, and the ACA is more popular than the tax scam.

In 2018, Dems win the House, in part because of Obamacare.

In 2022 and 2023, Dems win many races because of Dobbs.

So, this thing took away healthcare for many women, made it harder for them to get healthcare and did a lot of damage to their health, and he wants to take healthcare away from 40 million people, which has saved lives?

How at all is this a winning platform?

LymphocyteLover

(9,847 posts)
39. Exactly. Republicans attacks on the ACA in 2017-2018 helped them win the House in 2018 (and thank god they did)
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 05:11 PM
Nov 2023

Republicans attacks on Women's healthcare helped Dems win in 2022 and 2023.

These Repubs are just cartoonishly dumb and evil

Response to applegrove (Original post)

Maraya1969

(23,497 posts)
40. 35 million Americans have Obamacare. He thinks he is going to take their
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 06:14 PM
Nov 2023

health care away and they are not going to say and do something?

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