Band lead and guitarist brawl on stage. Tour cancelled

[Demovictory9]

The onstage chaos seemingly ignited six songs into the band’s set by frontman Anton Newcombe, 56, who then abruptly kicked out guitarist Ryan Van Kriedt from the band, demanding his microphone be “cut off” and for him to “get the f–k” off stage.

“Cut off this guy’s mic, put down my guitar, party’s over, captain,” Newcombe shouted at his then-guitarist in a fan-filmed social media video.

“There’s no more music until you get the f–k… We actually don’t need you. Go. Put my guitar down on the stage and think about what’s happening. Unplug.”

Van Kriedt told him he “better think about this one, man,” adamantly adding, “because this is forever,” making sure Newcombe understood the gravity of his demand.

Fed up with the onstage antics, Van Kriedt stormed off stage and flipped the irate lead singer as he exited.

In a shocking twist, concertgoers watched as Newsome took his guitar and swung it at Van Kriedt’s head, appearing to strike him in the face.

The guitarist then chases Newcombe across the stage as he flees before tackling him to the ground.

https://nypost.com/2023/11/26/entertainment/the-brian-jonestown-massacre-band-members-brawl-onstage-during-concert-cancel-rest-of-tour/

[LuckyCharms]

1. Fucking idiots can't keep their shit together for a ticket-buying audience.

[Demovictory9]

6. Audience lands two perfectly aimed water bottles at the end..direct hit on the drums

[Initech]

19. You might want to read about what happened to Queensryche.

Holy shit, that might be one of the most spectacularly bad band breakups of all time.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

21. I dunno

Sonic Youth was no picnic. Married band members divorcing over adultery allegations, and then it spilled over into the band. It got really nasty there, really fast.

And let's not even get into how Eddie Van Halen was central to not one but two implosions of his namesake band. They never recovered from the second one.

[Initech]

22. The Queensryche story goes something like this.

Geoff Tate got drunk off his ass before a show and threatened to fight the rest of the band. Then he quit and they wound up canceling the rest of the tour. Then he released an album under the Queensryche name without the approval of the other band members called Frequency Unknown (read: FU). Then he attempted to sue for control of the Queensryche name and wound up splitting the band into two different bands called Queensryche. After that failed, he went solo and then dropped off the face of the earth. It is a very weird tale.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

34. He's still around touring

His voice was shot the last time I saw 'Ryche so I'm not that interested in seeing him solo. Queensryche hasn't been the same since Chris DeGarmo left in the early 90s though.

[Initech]

35. Yeah I know.

I haven't seen Queensryche with LaTorre yet but I'm thinking I might catch their show at the House Of Blues in March when they play The Warning in its' entirety.

[The Contrarian]

44. I never thought my initial post would be defending Eddie Van Halen

The Van Halen breakups were complex, but the first one was driven by DLR, not EVH. DLR quit the band because he wanted to be a movie star. That being said, Van Halen was always professional on stage. There's no comparison here.

[moniss]

2. I think

Ray and Dave of the Kinks had better fights.

[padah513]

4. I think we'd all be surprised at how often this stuff happens.

[moniss]

8. As someone

who worked with a band years ago I can agree wholeheartedly. The combination of the eccentricity, talent, creativity, insecurity, ego, exhaustion and frustration when you're out on the road gives all the fuel necessary for these things to combust. I saw people who after a few weeks couldn't stand to eat a meal with each other. I can remember plenty of screaming matches in the motel rooms at the end of the night. I'm a laid back sort and I don't like people shouting and arguing. It's too much like marriage. I spent many an early morning from 3:00 a.m. until about 6:00 a.m. sitting out in back of a motel by myself just to get away from it and not hear it.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

37. So many falling apart in later years

Hall and Oates are suing each other now. Journey and the Eagles supposedly have security backstage to keep members separated.

[Demovictory9]

42. Yikes! About bands needing security for each other

[AZSkiffyGeek]

45. To Be Fair, Journey's keyboardist is crazy MAGA now

Married to one of those prosperity televangelists that TFG loves.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

27. They set the standard

The Gallagher brothers in Oasis may top them though.

[hlthe2b]

3. How totally suprising that a band named "Brian Jonestown Massacre" should have difficulties

being respectful of each other onstage and even devolving to violence. Whodda thunk?

[Demovictory9]

5. Fans say there has been tension at prior concerts

[2naSalit]

7. Who?

Never heard of them.

[sop]

32. I never heard of them either.

And they've released 20 albums and 22 singles? Oh, well...

[2naSalit]

39. LOL!

Must be an acquired taste!

[maxsolomon]

38. Long-running Indie Rock band.

I've known about them for decades, but never really gelled with them. Have a friend that's a massive fan.

[ProfessorGAC]

9. This Kind Of Thing Makes Me Even More Proud...

...of the fact that my last band stayed together for 19 years with the same 4 guys, plus the same soundman & light tech.
Over 1,500 gigs together & nothing close to this ever occurred.
In addition, what the hell was that unprofessional behavior before the "fight"? Meandering around the stage, noodling, for 5 minutes, hardly acknowledging the audience, extra guys on stage... For five minutes.
I'm surprised they had fans to attend the show.

[EarlG]

10. Sounds like a normal BJM show

This is their schtick, they’ve been doing it for the last thirty years and it’s part of the reason people go to see them, to see if they’ll fight on stage. The band is really just the lead singer plus revolving support musicians that he abuses, fights with, and then fires. It’s pretty much the only reason they’re semi-famous.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Brian_Jonestown_Massacre_members

[Demovictory9]

16. That explains why guitarist doesnt even own his own guitar..

[TeamProg]

11. The singer threatened a different guitarist when I saw them in

S. F. at The Bottom of the Hill in the early nineties.

Anton told the guitarist “Get your fucking guitar in tune in 5 seconds or you’re out of the band!”

Nice guy.

[Demovictory9]

17. The other muscians are standing there like trsumatized kids of a fighting couple

At the beginning of the video..body language is "dont turn your anger on me"

[AZSkiffyGeek]

29. Reminds me of a Fall show I saw about 15 years ago

May have been the last time they toured the States. Mark E Smith was yelling at the opening act throughout their set, then the opening singer threw a banana peel or something on stage at Smith. He stopped the show, went outside and fought the opener's singer, and ended up firing the rest of his band and cancelling the tour.

[TeamProg]

33. Geeeezzuzzzx. We're all a little crazy but it's not a competition! nt

[Ron Green]

12. How many guitars in a band are too many?

Three? Maybe two.

Wankers.

[ProfessorGAC]

18. Anything Over 2

Even Skynyrd would have been the same with 2 guitar players. But, at least they had 3 guys with very different styles.
With 3, one of them has to spend all their time staying out of the way.
For a jam, sure. Geez, we've had 4 up there at once when hosting a jam.
Know what it sounds like? A jam!

[Demovictory9]

23. Johnstown massacre needs to diversify..saxophone or harp

[ProfessorGAC]

24. Lyre Is Easier To Move Around

But, harp is a fun instrument.
I learned how to play it as a kid at the piano shop where I took lessons.
Then, in high school I had a neighbor that had one. (More on that later*.) In college, I'd go to the music hall when I didn't have time to drive home & back to play piano, but messed around on harp several times.
* - Musical family. Dad was baritone horn player for the Lyric Opera orchestra, mom was a classical pianist, the son became a violinist with CSO, & the daughter was a harpist who, at least at one point, played with the orchestra in Dallas. Super musical family.

[Chainfire]

13. Music and wrestling in the same show; It just don't get no better than that, Bubba.

[Glamrock]

14. I've been in a couple of similar bands over the years.

I’m a seriously laid back dude. But I’ve had a band member or two pinned underneath me with me fist cocked ready to go if they didn’t calm down.

[underpants]

28. If the Violent Femmes can get back together any band can

I was shocked that they were touring again. They really hate each other from what I understood. Several law suits. I guess the money was too good to pass up.

[jcgoldie]

15. Anton Newcombe is a completely self absorbed douchebag

At a recent concert in Oklahoma City he told the booing audience "I will blow you up like the Alfred P. Murrah Building."

[Act_of_Reparation]

25. The alcoholism doesn't help, either.

[sop]

40. From the looks of it, he's also a real wuss.

When it came time to actually throw down with the other guy, he started sprinting around the stage, trying to get away and avoid a beating. Lucky for Anton the rest of the band pulled the angry guitar player off him before he got hurt.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

20. One of my neighbors in LA

Was a professional roadie. He worked the last Police tour in 1984, and came back saying the band was done, he couldn't see them doing anything together again, because they were having quite bad fights. I don't remember anymore if a fight happened onstage or not, but bad fights among them were definitely happening.

I'd say his prediction was correct, because they didn't release another album together. I understand that things settled down enough for them to do a reunion tour in the mid-2000s. So bands can come back from bad blood...If they're popular enough. I'm guessing that bands less well-known don't tend to kiss and make up.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

26. What is this, 1995?

Good to see nothing has changed w/ BJM.

[Hugin]

30. 7:23 and not a single lick of music.

I’ve seen better floor shows in the parking lot of Walmarts, too.

[Demovictory9]

41. View from another angle

[Docreed2003]

31. Could be worse

Ginger Baker pulled a knife of Jack Bruce once right in the middle of a Cream concert 🤣

[duckworth969]

36. Dandy Warhols

Was another band that some of these folks belonged to, always a fracas and legal troubles 🙄

[Demovictory9]

43. View from another angle