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Deranged Hamas Supporters Speak Out at Oakland City Council Meeting (Original Post) Ace Rothstein Nov 2023 OP
The hate and ignorance is painful. madaboutharry Nov 2023 #1
They're So Stupid Going About Cha Nov 2023 #2
"They're Not Even Hiding it.. " Cha Nov 2023 #3
As Rachael Maddow just wrote about in her latest book lapfog_1 Nov 2023 #4
Rec TY lapfrog Cha Nov 2023 #6
"So far left that they are RWNJs" Kennah Nov 2023 #15
Lunacy Dorian Gray Nov 2023 #34
Amazing how these people get up and spout this stuff, but I have seen it before DFW Nov 2023 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Nov 2023 #7
Lots of Hamas "useful idiots" out there. They're all over the place. nt LexVegas Nov 2023 #8
I'm sorry Mossfern Nov 2023 #9
And, I"m sorry too for what youre Cha Nov 2023 #10
aw, please take care of yourself Dorian Gray Nov 2023 #35
Check out Oakland's school district while you're at it. Sympthsical Nov 2023 #11
The Big Fat IRONY Is Cha Nov 2023 #12
I have said it here many times lapfog_1 Nov 2023 #22
How many of them believe 6 million Jews sarisataka Nov 2023 #13
Sorry. No time or patience for terrorist apologists. peggysue2 Nov 2023 #14
And this people walk among us. They are embarrassing debm55 Nov 2023 #16
If they were fighting Jews they would easily JI7 Nov 2023 #23
On the same moral plane as Holocaust denial bullwinkle428 Nov 2023 #17
Appears to represent simplistic thinking Kennah Nov 2023 #18
sickening. demoralizing. hard to watch. (but I'm glad that this stopdiggin Nov 2023 #19
Yup , the "nobody is defending/supports Hamas" JI7 Nov 2023 #24
These are the same ones that say Jews were behind 9-11 JI7 Nov 2023 #20
What a bunch of fucking ahistorical, LYING assholes! Behind the Aegis Nov 2023 #21
Results of the meeting sarisataka Nov 2023 #25
With heads that empty EllieBC Nov 2023 #27
You'd be surprised at how much the extreme left & extreme right overlap when it comes to their hate of Jews. MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #26
It Would Appear... ProfessorGAC Nov 2023 #31
Facts. Have you heard of the horseshoe theory? MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #33
I remain unsurprised after nearly 20 years here. boston bean Nov 2023 #32
If they operate a business they need to be boycotted. LiberalFighter Nov 2023 #28
These speakers are scary LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #29
Antisemitism or Stupidity? DET Nov 2023 #30

madaboutharry

(42,033 posts)
1. The hate and ignorance is painful.
Tue Nov 28, 2023, 11:19 PM
Nov 2023

Some of these people hate Jews.

Others have no critical thinking skills and believe what they watch on TikTok.

lapfog_1

(31,903 posts)
4. As Rachael Maddow just wrote about in her latest book
Tue Nov 28, 2023, 11:30 PM
Nov 2023

there were many people in the USA that supported Hitler and the German Nazi's too.

As for the person or persons that claimed that "Israel killed their own people on Oct 7th", they are a bit behind the curve... since the leadership of Hamas in Qatar not only claimed credit for the attack that killed 1200 civilians including old people women and babies ( not that killing military age men is any better ) but he went on to claim Hamas would do it again and again.

and his identity is verified since he has been on video tape many times (even before AI).

I am very sorry to share a planet with people like this much less a nation, a state, and a region ( I live in the Bay Area ).

So far left that they are RWNJs. Pretty soon they will be telling us that JFK Jr. is going to reveal himself as the true President of the USA or some such shit.

Kennah

(14,578 posts)
15. "So far left that they are RWNJs"
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 12:39 AM
Nov 2023

I've read some state that the German Nazi Party defied traditional left-right ideological classification. This always made sense to me, theoretically, but I could never conceptualize it in real life. That gave me some solace in thinking that if faithful adherents of Nazism all died out, then it would be gone.

Sadly, some of these people supporting Hamas appear to represent another incarnation.

DFW

(60,170 posts)
5. Amazing how these people get up and spout this stuff, but I have seen it before
Tue Nov 28, 2023, 11:40 PM
Nov 2023

Fifty years ago, Daniel Ellsberg was invited to speak at my college. Before he was through, some woman jumped up on the stage, grabbed the microphone and started literally yelling that Ellsberg was an agent of the CIA, and we shouldn‘t believe a word he said. Mass psychosis, I guess.

Response to Ace Rothstein (Original post)

Mossfern

(4,715 posts)
9. I'm sorry
Tue Nov 28, 2023, 11:59 PM
Nov 2023

I need to take a break.
Watching that video triggered my panic disorder.
I've kept it together pretty well after 10/7, but for now - at least for a little bit - I need to not watch or read the news. That was my therapist's advice a few weeks ago, and I should have taken it. I'll be back when I'm better regulated.

Dorian Gray

(13,850 posts)
35. aw, please take care of yourself
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 06:44 AM
Nov 2023

first and foremost.

The world is full of awful news, and the attitudes here can trigger all sorts of PTSD. Take a break from it if it will help your mental health and please know that you are supported.

lapfog_1

(31,903 posts)
22. I have said it here many times
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 07:55 AM
Nov 2023

not a single person demonstrating for Palestine, especially woman and members of the LBGTQ+ community, would ever want to go live in a Palestine actually run by Hamas or any Islamic fundamentalist organization. This includes most women who have immigrated here from Palestine.

sarisataka

(22,678 posts)
13. How many of them believe 6 million Jews
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 12:13 AM
Nov 2023

We're murdered by the Nazis. Or even that there was a Holocaust.

Yet we have people who dare to claim no one supports Hamas or terrorism.

peggysue2

(12,529 posts)
14. Sorry. No time or patience for terrorist apologists.
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 12:27 AM
Nov 2023

Would they support ISIS? The Taliban? Would they claim they, too, are freedom fighters?

Give me a frigging break!

Not a good or even decent look.

Kennah

(14,578 posts)
18. Appears to represent simplistic thinking
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 01:21 AM
Nov 2023

Thinking there are Nazis and those opposing Nazis. Pick a side and brand the other side as Nazis. Ironically, I'm engaging in simplistic analysis.

stopdiggin

(15,443 posts)
19. sickening. demoralizing. hard to watch. (but I'm glad that this
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 01:27 AM
Nov 2023

was posted)
Getting awfully tired of the efforts taken to either deny, or explain this crap away ..

(there are people on, what we would ostensibly call, the left - that have lost their ever loving minds.)

JI7

(93,594 posts)
24. Yup , the "nobody is defending/supports Hamas"
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 08:39 AM
Nov 2023

line. I see these things said in many places.

JI7

(93,594 posts)
20. These are the same ones that say Jews were behind 9-11
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 02:16 AM
Nov 2023

and are always pushing Jewish conspiracies.

Behind the Aegis

(56,104 posts)
21. What a bunch of fucking ahistorical, LYING assholes!
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 04:20 AM
Nov 2023

Why does this even fall under the purview of a goddamned school anyway? FUCK OFF JEW HATING SCUM!

sarisataka

(22,678 posts)
25. Results of the meeting
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 11:37 AM
Nov 2023

The council approved the cease fire resolution 8-0 but voted against condemning Hamas terrorism 6-2.

Judenhass carried the day.

 

MyNameIsJonas

(744 posts)
26. You'd be surprised at how much the extreme left & extreme right overlap when it comes to their hate of Jews.
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 11:40 AM
Nov 2023

What's remarkable to me is that even if you disagree with the Israeli government and their reaponse, Israel is still by far the most progressive area in the Middle East when it comes to women's rights and gay rights.

boston bean

(36,930 posts)
32. I remain unsurprised after nearly 20 years here.
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 05:37 PM
Nov 2023

I do not support Netanyahu but I do support the right of Israel to exist. HAMAS is a terrorist organization with the stated goal of eradicating Jews from Israel. It is what they are and what they stand for.

Sorry, have no sense of empathy for any of them. They use human shields.

And I can be sure that many Palestinians are not terrorists carrying around weapons or committing terrorist acts themselves, they more than likely do hate Jews and support their leaders in their efforts.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
28. If they operate a business they need to be boycotted.
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 11:55 AM
Nov 2023

There need to be letters to the newspapers condemning those supporting Hamas.

DET

(2,498 posts)
30. Antisemitism or Stupidity?
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 05:04 PM
Nov 2023

What is wrong with these people? I didn’t automatically assume that they were antisemitic; I assumed that they were brainwashed by anti-Israel propaganda. Why they chose to believe that propaganda, I don’t understand. Some of them sounded like they were scripted. I’m just baffled by this entire exchange.

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