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babylonsister

(172,763 posts)
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 08:22 AM Nov 2023

This shows how skewed toward Republicans the media is

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/11/28/2208487/-Media-s-treatment-of-Trump-s-vermin-versus-Clinton-s-deplorables-shows-how-the-decks-are-stacked

For you non-believers out there...

This shows how skewed toward Republicans the media is
Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 4:00:33p EST
Laura Clawson


After Donald Trump echoed both Hitler and Mussolini in a Veterans Day speech, saying, “We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country, that lie and steal and cheat on elections,” Republicans defended him with a "both sides" argument, pointing to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 “deplorables” comment. But Republicans didn’t need to work very hard to defend Trump—because the media wasn’t paying attention to begin with.

A new Media Matters analysis compares television and newspaper coverage of Trump’s Nazi-flavored pledge to exterminate his political opponents with Clinton’s lumping of “half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables … The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic—you name it.” Clinton’s comment was big news. Trump’s, not so much.

The nationally syndicated broadcast news shows—“Good Morning America,” “This Week,” and “World News Tonight” on ABC; “This Morning,” “Mornings,” “Face the Nation,” and “Evening News” on CBC; and “Today,” “Nightly News,” and “Meet the Press” on NBC—spent a combined 54 minutes on Clinton’s deplorables comment in the first week after she said it. Those same shows spent a combined three minutes on Trump’s vermin rant.

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There is no question, by the hard numbers, that the media is giving Donald Trump a pass. His dehumanizing rhetoric describing his political opponents as “vermin” that he will “root out” is a nonstory as far as the broadcast networks, cable news networks, and largest newspapers in the country are concerned. By contrast, a comment describing people who are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, or Islamophobic using a term meaning “deserving censure or contempt” and “lamentable” was huge news.

There is no honest way to look at this and say the deck isn’t stacked against Democrats. Everyone at the media organizations included in this analysis needs to take a good hard look at what they’re doing.
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This shows how skewed toward Republicans the media is (Original Post) babylonsister Nov 2023 OP
I don't get my news from any of the sources listed. gab13by13 Nov 2023 #1
I don't, either - but many do. dchill Nov 2023 #9
More than half do; see Pew Research Center. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2023 #16
The media has become completely money driven SouthernDem4ever Nov 2023 #2
It's all " entertainment". 🙄 SergeStorms Nov 2023 #8
"the media is giving Donald Trump a pass." WHAT??!!! NCIndie Nov 2023 #3
Excellent point PatSeg Nov 2023 #5
Thank you ... and I'll add ... ificandream Nov 2023 #6
Deplorable means 'wretched behavior deserving of censure or contempt' sop Nov 2023 #17
Don't mix right-wing media with MSM. ificandream Nov 2023 #31
Doubtful if the the true Deplorable voter reads NoMoreRepugs Nov 2023 #4
Do they have the ability to read? SouthernDem4ever Nov 2023 #36
This is a no lose scenario for the Corporate Media. plimsoll Nov 2023 #7
The media makes people vote R? czarjak Nov 2023 #10
As has always been the case. TwilightZone Nov 2023 #23
Well something caused it SouthernDem4ever Nov 2023 #37
The news media has been conditioned to ignore whatever vile doc03 Nov 2023 #11
The msm is corporate owned and censored. Of course, it's skewed. Magoo48 Nov 2023 #12
The word "deplorables" implies they are worth weeping over. raging moderate Nov 2023 #13
The network evening news seems to be ignoring the monster mountain grammy Nov 2023 #14
We have an an enabling and complicit media. Just like in 2015/2016 progressoid Nov 2023 #15
No argument with the article. But it begs the question: what can be done about it? Stinky The Clown Nov 2023 #18
Congress would have to do something about the Telecommunications Act of 1996 redqueen Nov 2023 #20
THIS. So much. onecaliberal Nov 2023 #40
Hillary was correct, and Trump and MAGA Johonny Nov 2023 #19
But then how would the media owners have got those huge tax cuts? redqueen Nov 2023 #21
Media is run by big money and his BS brings them views IronLionZion Nov 2023 #22
That is why I never listen to mainstream media except for a very select few tornado34jh Nov 2023 #24
Depends which "media" you use to learn about the news. Both the Washington Post and the NYT have Martin68 Nov 2023 #25
The only part HRC got wrong is it isn't just half of them Major Nikon Nov 2023 #26
It's not a mystery, and it's not a conspiracy. maxsolomon Nov 2023 #27
That is why I don't get my news from fascists or fascist lovers. onecaliberal Nov 2023 #28
they are still sucking ronnie raygun's dead ass cause tax cuts + RATINGS. SQUIRREL! pansypoo53219 Nov 2023 #29
Another one who had dementia. onecaliberal Nov 2023 #30
thats a new one . can i use it please ? AllaN01Bear Nov 2023 #33
Absolutely! onecaliberal Nov 2023 #38
She also didn't call anyone out, or name call directly. LisaM Nov 2023 #32
She also didn't say she would use the power SharonClark Nov 2023 #42
Fuck the MSM ArkansasDemocrat1 Nov 2023 #34
An owned press is not a free press imho. I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2023 #35
Another false equivalency treestar Nov 2023 #39
I've seen or heard lengthy coverage of Trump's increasing Hitler references on NPR summer_in_TX Nov 2023 #41
W-H-Y? The excuse of ratings is bs. Follow the ownership $$. live love laugh Nov 2023 #43

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
2. The media has become completely money driven
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 09:13 AM
Nov 2023

So whatever they think will keep viewers hooked is what they will play. They don't care about good journalism anymore. There used to be a more defining line between news and opinion in media. It still strikes me funny as to how far this has come partially due to Media Matters founder David Brock who used to feed Mush Limpballs lying propaganda to feed the idiots listening to his show every day. David's been trying to atone ever since but the cat was too far out of the bag by then.

SergeStorms

(20,600 posts)
8. It's all " entertainment". 🙄
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 10:09 AM
Nov 2023

They must put on a good show for their audience. They seem to think the audience demands it, and in regards to Trumpublicans, they do.
To vilify Trump and laud Biden would make for extremely boring TV, at least in the minds of Trump's cult, and media executives.
It's all theater. Most unfortunately.

NCIndie

(556 posts)
3. "the media is giving Donald Trump a pass." WHAT??!!!
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 09:33 AM
Nov 2023

Trump vomits hate and bile every moment he is awake, and the press jumps at his every word. They shouldn’t, but that is the nature of their business.

Hillary ran a disciplined, considered campaign. Her “deplorables” comment was so out of character that it created a huge splash.

There is no not enough space in the media universe to give every hideous Trump spews the same coverage as “deplorables”. But that sort of analysis is really unpopular at DU, so never mind. Let’s keep screaming, “The entirety of the media is collective right wing mouthpiece!” because that fuels our rage.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
5. Excellent point
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 09:49 AM
Nov 2023

For a long time, the media was criticized for covering Trump's every word and now it is criticized for ignoring what he says. He says vile, disgusting things on a daily basis.

ificandream

(11,839 posts)
6. Thank you ... and I'll add ...
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 09:49 AM
Nov 2023

... that Trump is using the same "media is rigged against me" line. And none of us on this side believe it. The opposite isn't true, either.

sop

(18,691 posts)
17. Deplorable means 'wretched behavior deserving of censure or contempt'
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 10:56 AM
Nov 2023

The people Hillary referred to as "deplorables" had been behaving deplorably for years, calling her, her husband and even their daughter every vile name imaginable, accusing her of all manner of crimes, making up vicious lies, inventing loony conspiracies, demanding her imprisonment, and worse. It was an accurate characterization.

It was also accurate when Obama, referring to working-class voters in old industrial towns decimated by job losses, said: "They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." That wasn't an insult, it was true. It was also meant as constructive criticism, followed up with a whole raft of proposed policy solutions to remedy their economic problems.

Though true, corporate media hammered Obama mercilessly for the rest of the campaign for that statement, calling him "elitist," "out of touch" and bringing up the "guns and God gaffe" at every opportunity. And corporate media did so despite the fact their own reporters and pundits had been making the same observations and comments about rust-belt voters for decades.



NoMoreRepugs

(12,108 posts)
4. Doubtful if the the true Deplorable voter reads
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 09:39 AM
Nov 2023

mainstream printed or views televised media - so why the bothsiderism??

plimsoll

(1,690 posts)
7. This is a no lose scenario for the Corporate Media.
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 10:05 AM
Nov 2023

The news divisions notoriously weak profit centers turn a profit by having their own reality show complete with carnival barker.

They placate the right who honestly believe that any mention of GOP/Conservative wrongdoing is media bias

And finally the really big plus. They know the left and Democrats will be forced to defend them regardless of their bias.

czarjak

(13,643 posts)
10. The media makes people vote R?
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 10:28 AM
Nov 2023

A locked-in portion of Americans will not even consider voting any other way.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
23. As has always been the case.
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 11:24 AM
Nov 2023

Long-term partisan voters are nothing new, and it's a significant chunk of the electorate. We tend to act as though they don't exist and that everyone should be able to be swayed. Many, many people dislike and disapprove of Trump, but will vote for him simply because he's the Republican nominee. We often make the mistake of conflating approval with intent to vote.

doc03

(39,093 posts)
11. The news media has been conditioned to ignore whatever vile
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 10:29 AM
Nov 2023

things Trump says, "That's just Trump". Like Rachel Maddow said Republicans are using Communists and
Fascists together now so eventually those words will have no meaning. They have changed the words "Liberal" and "Woke" into
words that describe anyone that disagrees with them. Communists, Fascists, Marxists, radical left-wing thugs are
all Democrats and the enemy of the people. He calls the media the "Enemy of the people", so they bend over
backwards to not look biased and offend the Republicans. They have been running the same game plan since Nixon.

Magoo48

(6,721 posts)
12. The msm is corporate owned and censored. Of course, it's skewed.
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 10:32 AM
Nov 2023

I stick to viewer supported news like Democracy Now or this and other progressive sites on the inter webs.

raging moderate

(4,624 posts)
13. The word "deplorables" implies they are worth weeping over.
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 10:37 AM
Nov 2023

It is from the old French word for "weeping," and it implies some feelings of concern and caring for those who are described as "deplorables." That is much better than the vicious words the right wing hurls at those who fail to worship their political deities.

mountain grammy

(29,051 posts)
14. The network evening news seems to be ignoring the monster
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 10:38 AM
Nov 2023

Three nights straight, the only time I heard the name was in fleeting about Melanie attending Rosalynn's funeral..It's refreshing, actually. It seems everytime he's mentioned, he gets a whole bunch more crazies following him.
The only story I want to hear about him is about his death..

progressoid

(53,206 posts)
15. We have an an enabling and complicit media. Just like in 2015/2016
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 10:45 AM
Nov 2023

Partisanship, Propaganda, and Disinformation: Online Media and the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election
Donald Trump succeeded in shaping the election agenda. Coverage of Trump overwhelmingly outperformed coverage of Clinton. Clinton’s coverage was focused on scandals, while Trump’s coverage focused on his core issues.



Attempts by the Clinton campaign to define her campaign on competence, experience, and policy positions were drowned out by coverage of alleged improprieties associated with the Clinton Foundation and emails. Coverage of Trump associated with immigration, jobs, and trade was greater than that on his personal scandals.



...https://cyber.harvard.edu/publications/2017/08/mediacloud

Stinky The Clown

(68,952 posts)
18. No argument with the article. But it begs the question: what can be done about it?
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 11:01 AM
Nov 2023

Our side has been pointing this out forever, but to no particular outcome. Like Motherfucker's hate speech, our side's words are largely ignored.

redqueen

(115,186 posts)
20. Congress would have to do something about the Telecommunications Act of 1996
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 11:14 AM
Nov 2023

Concentrated media ownership has to end.

Johonny

(26,208 posts)
19. Hillary was correct, and Trump and MAGA
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 11:10 AM
Nov 2023

Basically have done everything to prove it, with everything from neoNazi marches to storming the capitol. They proved themselves to be exactly what she warned people they were. Meanwhile, Trump is full of shit. Had the media considered her words instead of attacking them, we might not be in the situation we're in today.

tornado34jh

(1,527 posts)
24. That is why I never listen to mainstream media except for a very select few
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 12:51 PM
Nov 2023

Mostly, I watch independent media, and I could count the number of people on mainstream media I trust on just one hand.

Martin68

(27,779 posts)
25. Depends which "media" you use to learn about the news. Both the Washington Post and the NYT have
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 12:58 PM
Nov 2023

thoroughly castigated Trump for quoting Nazis.

maxsolomon

(38,758 posts)
27. It's not a mystery, and it's not a conspiracy.
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 03:01 PM
Nov 2023

Trump exhausts us with his outrages. He exhausts the media as well. That his rhetoric, which is always confused, inchoate and is basically all free-form lies anyway, goes from 99.65% fascist to 99.70% doesn't elicit shock anymore, if it ever did. Trump has trampled every political norm, but only for Repukes. Dems are commonly called baby killing communists, but if you ever call a Repuke a Repuke, they get their feewings hurt and start screaming.

Democrats, on the other hand, are held to a higher standard. We're supposed to care, be respectful, be inclusive - it's our Party's brand. When HRC dared be mean to deplorable GQP assholes, it was shocking. The media focus became her transgression of political norms - they have to report controversies. Like when she dared to tell AIPAC that the West Bank Settlements were an issue - how dare she touch the 3rd rail and criticize Israel!

Are Repukes still deplorable? Fuck yes they are.

pansypoo53219

(23,038 posts)
29. they are still sucking ronnie raygun's dead ass cause tax cuts + RATINGS. SQUIRREL!
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 03:58 PM
Nov 2023

fuck democracy.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
30. Another one who had dementia.
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 04:08 PM
Nov 2023

Saint Ronnie of ray guns wasn’t even making decisions by the end of his term.

LisaM

(29,645 posts)
32. She also didn't call anyone out, or name call directly.
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 08:35 PM
Nov 2023

She said IF people were any of those things, they belonged in a "basket of deplorables". It might seem like nuance to some, but she didn't refer to anyone as "a deplorable".

SharonClark

(10,497 posts)
42. She also didn't say she would use the power
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 12:24 AM
Nov 2023

of the government to rid them from the face of the earth and encourage her supporters to hunt them down like vermin.

Big difference.

ArkansasDemocrat1

(3,213 posts)
34. Fuck the MSM
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 09:00 PM
Nov 2023

They're a bunch of cowards, catamites & Quislings. They can go to Hell. I don't trust them one bit.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
39. Another false equivalency
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 11:19 PM
Nov 2023

Hillary did not imply anything about getting back at them. Hit Lee never used such a mild word. Orange Jebius would never use such a word. And being deplorable is nothing like being called vermin.

summer_in_TX

(4,175 posts)
41. I've seen or heard lengthy coverage of Trump's increasing Hitler references on NPR
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 11:41 PM
Nov 2023

and PBS. Corporate media has been anywhere from pretty awful to completely in the tank for Trump, but nonprofit public media is doing a decent job.

They've educated their audience well on the truth of the election lies as well as the parallels between the rise of fascism during Hitler and Mussolini and our current time.

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