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AverageOldGuy

(3,835 posts)
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 07:42 AM Nov 2023

"Morning Joe"

Am I the only one who, after many months, has quit MSNBC's "Morning Joe" solely because of Joe Scarborough?

The other regulars on the show get to the point, explain the background of what's being discussed, and generally provide useful background and commentary. Scarborough, on the other hand, is all about "Uh, Uh, well, . . . " Watch the faces of the others on the show, especially Mika -- they seem to be waiting for him to STFU.

Willie Geist should have his own show.

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"Morning Joe" (Original Post) AverageOldGuy Nov 2023 OP
Joe is one of those guys who loves the sound of his own voice Walleye Nov 2023 #1
MSNBC management apparently likes his voice too JHB Nov 2023 #13
Don't you know that he's an expert on everything Ghost of Tom Joad Nov 2023 #24
I tune in... Mike Nelson Nov 2023 #2
He's the main reason... 2naSalit Nov 2023 #3
Yes, he tends to go off on tangents PatSeg Nov 2023 #15
I can totally... 2naSalit Nov 2023 #30
Anyone who has had a Scarborough PatSeg Nov 2023 #33
I usually watch the first hour and switch to CSpan for Washington Journal. Emile Nov 2023 #4
You are not alone in your feelings and observations. ariadne0614 Nov 2023 #5
I don't see it that way. tavernier Nov 2023 #6
Thanks. I rarely watch daytime tv, elleng Nov 2023 #27
I am a little confused as to why posters on DU tavernier Nov 2023 #34
Dunno. elleng Nov 2023 #36
I was a bit put off several years ago when she was married to somebody else and he was separated from his wife. It CTyankee Nov 2023 #37
I never would choose to watch him. BigmanPigman Nov 2023 #7
SNL agrees with you: mucifer Nov 2023 #8
Nailed it. Hotler Nov 2023 #25
Spot on tom_kelly Nov 2023 #32
I can't get past his hair. nt leftyladyfrommo Nov 2023 #9
Years ago. Scrivener7 Nov 2023 #10
It's not bad when he's not on . . . but that's not very often. hatrack Nov 2023 #11
Stopped watching Lilaclady Nov 2023 #12
I miss Robin Meade in the AM Fichefinder Nov 2023 #26
Joe probably wrote a memo to all the panelists on the show ordering them never to interrupt him. sop Nov 2023 #14
No need for 4 hours bmichaelh Nov 2023 #16
It's a morning show. TwilightZone Nov 2023 #17
Never even seen him; will probably leave this Earth never having seen him. My life is fine without him. NBachers Nov 2023 #18
Good job, genius. bigmonk Nov 2023 #19
I quit Morning Joe years ago because of Joe. Lonestarblue Nov 2023 #20
He is a black hole of selfish steam. dchill Nov 2023 #21
Doesn't bear repeating. dchill Nov 2023 #22
My problem with him Conjuay Nov 2023 #23
He channels Tucker Carlson in terms of annoying JuJuChen Nov 2023 #28
He likes Rebl2 Nov 2023 #29
Not me I love the show and I love Joe Scarborough ESPECIALLY when he goes off on his rants and screeds GuppyGal Nov 2023 #31
Thank you!!! tavernier Nov 2023 #35

JHB

(38,213 posts)
13. MSNBC management apparently likes his voice too
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 09:09 AM
Nov 2023

They think he's doing a fine job, whatever that is (hint: it's not journalism).

Ghost of Tom Joad

(1,443 posts)
24. Don't you know that he's an expert on everything
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 12:55 PM
Nov 2023

and wants everyone to know it. He has been unbearable lately, he's worse than Chris Matthews ever was.

Mike Nelson

(10,943 posts)
2. I tune in...
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 07:48 AM
Nov 2023

... occasionally. I used to watch it every morning. They lose me with all the reruns and pre-taped footage. They aren't "Live" enough to be a news program. I think Willie has another show on the regular NBC? They should have Joy Reid host "Morning Joy"!

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
3. He's the main reason...
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 07:59 AM
Nov 2023

I don't watch it. He bloviates too much, others don't have much time to say anything because of it. Joe should have an opinion column and leave it at that.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
15. Yes, he tends to go off on tangents
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 09:55 AM
Nov 2023

while others sit there with strained looks on their faces tolerating him because it is his show. Occasionally he does make a good point, but then he runs it into the ground.

It reminds me of an abusive father where the wife and children all tiptoe around him, afraid to incur his wrath. There have been a few people who he took a disliking to and he bullied and taunted them mercilessly. I suspect he got them fired or they quit because of him. David Shuster is one person who comes to mind. There were quite a few others.

I've known overbearing, self-absorbed men like him and it makes it that much harder to watch him treat the people around him like dirt. I've lived it, I don't need to relive it every morning five days a week.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
33. Anyone who has had a Scarborough
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 04:12 PM
Nov 2023

in their lives will recognize him immediately. He is a controlling bully. I am just surprised that he does nothing to disguise who and what he is on public television.

I am not a huge fan of Mika, but when Joe is gone and she runs the show, everything goes so much more smoothly. She is very disciplined and professional.

ariadne0614

(2,174 posts)
5. You are not alone in your feelings and observations.
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 08:09 AM
Nov 2023

Watching Mika, the regular panel members, and guests sit with frozen expressions of feigned interest and patience is painful. We still tune in because of the others, and even for the occasional satisfaction of hearing JS attack his former party and *Rump about the latest outrage. If more Democrats engaged in bare-knuckled verbiage, I wouldn’t feel the need to ever hear it from JS. On the other hand, when he refuses to allow anyone else to speak, we hit the mute button until his lips stop moving. Sigh. . .

tavernier

(14,443 posts)
6. I don't see it that way.
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 08:17 AM
Nov 2023

I like both the guests and the regulars, and I don’t mind Joe, especially when he is pointing out step by step the idiocy of Trump and the new Trump party. I think he is a valuable arrow in our quiver against the enemy. Argument regarding his past behavior when Trump ran the first time, it’s an old one. Joe accepts his own miscalculations and naivety regarding Trump and daily warns republicans to follow the facts. His style can irritate many listeners but his words are spot on.

elleng

(141,926 posts)
27. Thanks. I rarely watch daytime tv,
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 01:08 PM
Nov 2023

but do occasionally catch a moment of Morning Joe, and it seems to 'cover the waterfront.'

tavernier

(14,443 posts)
34. I am a little confused as to why posters on DU
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 07:53 PM
Nov 2023

seem to hate and discourage the watching of a program that daily reveals and stresses the lies and the corruption of Trump. Are they afraid that some MAGA viewers might start to see the light?

elleng

(141,926 posts)
36. Dunno.
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 07:58 PM
Nov 2023

Lots of opinions here. I remember seeing ### criticism of Mika, which I found offensive.

CTyankee

(68,201 posts)
37. I was a bit put off several years ago when she was married to somebody else and he was separated from his wife. It
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 08:10 PM
Nov 2023

became obvious that something was going on between the two of them. He was already separated from his first wife but she was still married to her then husband. Then she gets rid of first hubby and goes on the show with a really big diamond engagement ring from Joe and guests on the show started congratulating them on their engagement. I thought that was a bit much...

BigmanPigman

(55,137 posts)
7. I never would choose to watch him.
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 08:28 AM
Nov 2023

Joe thinks he is a stellar politician, always right about everything and a rambling ego to boot. He loves to talk and talk and talk when he never has anything to say. White noise. Snooze.

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
10. Years ago.
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 08:49 AM
Nov 2023

But not solely because of the constant bloviating. Also because they normalized the defendant and are a lot of the reason he was elected in the first place.

hatrack

(64,887 posts)
11. It's not bad when he's not on . . . but that's not very often.
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 08:52 AM
Nov 2023

Otherwise, it's listening to myself listening to three or four other people listening to him and waiting for him to STFU.

Lilaclady

(82 posts)
12. Stopped watching
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 08:59 AM
Nov 2023

Joe and Mika had Trump on too much when he was first running for President. They gave him so much attention and bashed Hilary, making light of his foolishness thinking he could not win but could increase their ratings. I listen to music and read until my husband wakes up. Then we start our day.

Fichefinder

(425 posts)
26. I miss Robin Meade in the AM
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 01:07 PM
Nov 2023

No matter where I was working on the road, she was there every morning.

sop

(18,620 posts)
14. Joe probably wrote a memo to all the panelists on the show ordering them never to interrupt him.
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 09:15 AM
Nov 2023

When Joe goes off on one of his interminable rants, or whenever he interrupts someone else's thoughts mid-sentence, everyone on the panel immediately knows they have to shut up.

bmichaelh

(1,181 posts)
16. No need for 4 hours
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 10:21 AM
Nov 2023

Do not understand the need for the expanded format.

It seems that they repeat a lot of content if one wanted to watch four straight hours.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
17. It's a morning show.
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 10:26 AM
Nov 2023

Repetition is pretty much the norm in a show like this and is by design. The idea is that different people will see different time segments as they get ready for work or whatever.

NBachers

(19,438 posts)
18. Never even seen him; will probably leave this Earth never having seen him. My life is fine without him.
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 10:27 AM
Nov 2023

bigmonk

(114 posts)
19. Good job, genius.
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 10:32 AM
Nov 2023

The last time I watched Joe, there was a guest on and she explained in depth her research on a subject. Her research was well done, pertinent and her explanation clear. The panelists nodded in agreement and had the appearance of actual pleasure. Joe started in and paraphrased back to her what she just said like she needed it explained. Joe Scarborough is a manplainer and quite dismissive of women.
Just one man's view.

Lonestarblue

(13,480 posts)
20. I quit Morning Joe years ago because of Joe.
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 10:34 AM
Nov 2023

I do not plan to return until MSNBC casts a better program.

Conjuay

(3,067 posts)
23. My problem with him
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 10:46 AM
Nov 2023

Is that Mika gets cut off constantly. I mean I'm a New Yorker, and I'm guilty of the same thing,
But he just never shuts up.

Rebl2

(17,740 posts)
29. He likes
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 01:29 PM
Nov 2023

to hear himself talk I have decided. He just goes on and on before getting to the point. I rarely watch him. It goes so much better with just Mika and rest of round table group.

GuppyGal

(1,748 posts)
31. Not me I love the show and I love Joe Scarborough ESPECIALLY when he goes off on his rants and screeds
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 01:32 PM
Nov 2023

He gives them hell every damn day.

tavernier

(14,443 posts)
35. Thank you!!!
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 07:57 PM
Nov 2023

It’s almost as if some DU posters don’t want negative things about Trump being said out there on a popular morning show because they don’t like Scarborough’s personality.

Boohoohoo. Keep telling it like it is Joe.

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