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Sean Hannity is trying to tilt the debate between Ron DeSantis and Gavin Newsom toward DeSantis, but Newsom is still crushing DeSantis. Border security should have been a DeSantis strength, but then Newsom did this. Governor Newsom said, I support border security. You are trolling folks and trying to play political games so you can out-Trump Trump. How is that going for you, Ron? You are down 41 points in your own home state.
Hannity grew frustrated that he couldnt get Newsom to buy into the Fox News framing on the border. Newsom said, I support the $14 billion package that includes 2300 border agents. It also includes $850 million in the technology for border security. You hear nothing from Ron DeSantis. You hear nothing, Sean, I respectfully. You hear nothing from the Republican party. They play politics..
Newsom then hit DeSantis with the claim that he supported Obamas border amnesty. DeSantis squeaked back that Newsom was lying.
Ron DeSantis has spent the debate playing hysterical culture warrior, while Gavin Newsom is the reasonable voice not jumping out of his lifted shoes and trying to scare the bejesus out of viewers. This debate is a very one sided affair and not in the way that Sean Hannity and Fox News were hoping for. DeSantis just doesnt measure up.
https://www.politicususa.com/2023/11/30/gavin-newsom-ron-desantis-debate.html
Maru Kitteh
(31,761 posts)Put Little Boots in the sticky wastebasket of history.
Blue Owl
(59,106 posts)BOSSHOG
(44,738 posts)Im not watching but I chuckle at the notion that hannity and fox thought that it would turn out any other way. Desantis is a lightweight in every possible way. Of gigantic proportions.
Okay Im back in the English teachers dog house.
2naSalit
(102,793 posts)Somebody, use your imagination here, is so desperate to knock him out of the race for good, finish him, as is happening here.
Newsom is a great surrogate for the Biden team. DeSatin is not capable of winning without cheating and bullying.
This is great news. I can't and don't care to watch.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Dulcinea
(10,088 posts)DeathSentence will NEVER be president. Ever.
90-percent
(6,956 posts)is that Kimberly Guilfoyle used to be his gf.
-jim
jimfields33
(19,382 posts)MyOwnPeace
(17,557 posts)not a 'close' friend, but a friend. We no longer speak because he knocked on my door and asked me to sign a paper in support of him running to be a school board member.
I said to him: "Would you agree with me that it is important for a school board member to be able to make wise decisions that would effect the quality of education that our schools are providing?"
"Well, of course!" he replied.
I then said, "Well, I'm afraid I cannot support your candidacy for membership on our school board. I vividly remember you campaigning and actively supporting Donald Trump to be the President. Anybody who thought that was a 'wise decision' does not get my support to be a member of our school board."
Sorry, Gavin, but by having asked 'her' to be your wife, I really do have to 'question' your ability to make 'wise decisions!'
Zilli
(286 posts)I remember TV interviews with her during the Cane Corso case and she was not in any way the wack job she is now. Something changed and she went to the dark side. I think Gavin showed good judgement by ending that marriage and moving on. No, Gavin is not "perfect, nobody is but his abilities were on full display last night and I would definitely vote for him in the future.
usaf-vet
(7,811 posts)And she the ex-wife is chasing money and power via the connection to the soon to be the former Trump empire.
kimbutgar
(27,248 posts)I know people that knew her at Mercy HS in SF and no one had nice things to say about her then.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)MyOwnPeace
(17,557 posts)He DID end the marriage and move on. That's worth some points, for sure!
Who knows, maybe the whole 'relationship' was based on one crazy binge night - and I'll never hold THAT against anybody!
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,512 posts)It's to his credit he divorced the cavern mouthed gargoyle.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)superpatriotman
(6,870 posts)Not a single politifact showing how much of a shithole FL is.
Teeing up softballs for meatball to keep repeating the word leftist as much as possible.
Im sure Newsom knew this was coming. Wedge issues only. California bad.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)usaf-vet
(7,811 posts)NowISeetheLight
(4,002 posts)Luv our Guv!!!
msongs
(73,754 posts)BaronChocula
(4,555 posts)Now take down Nikki.
progressoid
(53,179 posts)Surprise surprise. They think DeSantis is winning this thing and will get a bump in the polls from tonight.
And Newsom is "slick".
Drum
(10,678 posts)Newsome was terrific
DontBelieveEastisEas
(1,211 posts)I hope that Newsom is our next Obama type speaker and leader.
I worry that no one on the fence about crime rates was convinced by Newsom.
I watched a clip that was largely about the crime in Florida vs California.
Hanity was adding his view that the stats proved DeSantis right, and that the audience could see the stats being displayed.
It seemed that Newsom did not notice Hanity saying that, or just didn't respond to it.
Also, after DeSantis quoted stats by crime per a quantity of population, Newsom did not offer any such scientific sounding data backing his own claims.
I hate listening to a gravely voice debating. Robert Kennedy Jr. is excruciating to listen to and Newsom sounds just enough like that to where it worries me his voice could get worse in 5 to 9 years from now.
I love Newsom's potential.
PortTack
(35,820 posts)Especially after multiple speaking engagements.
DontBelieveEastisEas
(1,211 posts)That trait in Bill Clinton's voice must have been subtle, I don't recall it being like that.
But, I'm sure you are right, it just isn't something that was impressed on me.
As long as it doesn't progress, it's fine, and perhaps adds a charming quality.
PortTack
(35,820 posts)RFK Jr has some medical condition that causes his voice to sound so terrible. Newsom just sounds a bit deep, maybe a little gravely, but not much
JI7
(93,616 posts)so he would be hoarse sometimes.
Polybius
(21,901 posts)More like Fauci. I also never noticed that Clinton has a "gravely voice."
RicROC
(1,249 posts)I find it difficult to listen to his gravelly voice.
Polybius
(21,901 posts)What happened? My mom used to say "sounds like he has a frog in his throat" about that kind of voice. Fauci talks like that too, but he is like 25 years older. Newsom is young.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,512 posts)kimbutgar
(27,248 posts)Not surprised hes kicking the Desatans bs,
ailsagirl
(24,287 posts)SKKY
(12,801 posts)...or if DeSantis is just flailing, but this is almost difficult to watch. You can see why DeSantis is falling far, far behind almost everyone in just about every state. He's not looking "Presidential", not even Governor material. Now, having said that, Newsom needs to be careful because I sometimes get a sense he can be a bit snark.
PortTack
(35,820 posts)Smart enough to drop out at that point? Or will he just grin and continue??
H2O Man
(79,052 posts)Recommended.
I'll watch it later tonight. I had forgotten it was on. Much appreciated!
orleans
(36,919 posts)or desantis opted to try this b/c he just can't seem to come out ahead on the all republican debates and figures he can win a debate against a single person, a democrat, and if hannity is running the show?
and why did gavin do this? he isn't running for president. did he just come out to play with the desantis like a cat will do to a mouse before the cat destroys it?
Tom of Temecula
(1,632 posts)... nothing to lose. It was a free stage and a wonderful opportunity to answer a lot of MAGA bullshit, and he took proper advantage of it.
DeSantis had everything to lose, and did.
Link to tweet
3Hotdogs
(15,368 posts)Fake, from top to bottom.
Polybius
(21,901 posts)If he is, I never noticed.
Johonny
(26,178 posts)Playing team Biden now with a move to SoS or such position since he can't run again in CA.
calimary
(90,021 posts)Cha
(319,076 posts)RocRizzo55
(980 posts)NCjack
(10,297 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(10,412 posts)Read his comments and then comments of others. The bifurcation is still in full bloom.
Initech
(108,783 posts)tinymontgomery
(2,859 posts)Of course on YouTube this what fox said head line stated.I'm not providing a link due to it being fox.
'Ron DeSantis shreds Gavin Newsom on crime: 'I know you like to lie!'
maveric
(17,044 posts)Will DeSatan agree to that format?
OAITW r.2.0
(32,133 posts)Thanks Fox for providing the forum and doormat for this expose.
republianmushroom
(22,326 posts)Did DeSantis have his elevated white boots on or did he stand on a box ?