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redqueen

(115,186 posts)
Sat Dec 2, 2023, 01:36 PM Dec 2023

Christmas and consumerism

Last edited Sat Dec 2, 2023, 03:43 PM - Edit history (1)

So in addition to doing things like conserving water, not buying gas guzzling cars / using public transit when possible, avoiding buying plastic goods, reducing use of water-intensive crops, and making environmentally-friendly choices in general, it's also important to reduce our impact on the environment during the season of giving.

So in the spirit of the season, I'd like to solicit everyone's suggestions for doing just that.

I'll start: reusing materials for gift wrapping. Swap out wrapping paper for scrap fabrics, decorative metal tins. Or even reusable tote bags or produce bags, or scarves which can be part of the gift. Decorating with cuttings from live plants or Christmas decorations, and using twine instead of ribbon and tape.

So - would anyone care to please share more ideas? Doesn't have to be Christmas related, either - sharing any helpful tip is a gift


p.s. This post was inspired by seeing this four-year-old clip of John Oliver talking about warehouses, and thinking of how much worse it gets every year.

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Christmas and consumerism (Original Post) redqueen Dec 2023 OP
I give adventures instead of things. Homemade card good for cbabe Dec 2023 #1
That sounds wonderful! yardwork Dec 2023 #2
What a great idea! Boomerproud Dec 2023 #4
I recommended this comment. hunter Dec 2023 #6
Love that idea! redqueen Dec 2023 #8
that's what we're doing IzzaNuDay Dec 2023 #23
When I was a kid, we were encouraged to cover textbooks with brown paper from bags. yardwork Dec 2023 #3
I remember doing that! redqueen Dec 2023 #9
That was before paper bags were ruining the environment jimfields33 Dec 2023 #26
Stringing is fun justaprogressive Dec 2023 #5
Now that I have never done redqueen Dec 2023 #10
We used holly berries ExWhoDoesntCare Dec 2023 #14
holly and holly berries justaprogressive Dec 2023 #35
Love it! senseandsensibility Dec 2023 #33
Thanks! justaprogressive Dec 2023 #34
Think before you buy. llmart Dec 2023 #7
"You do the best with what you have, but when you know better, you should do better." redqueen Dec 2023 #11
I don't happen to have a TV, so I never see all those ads. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2023 #28
Food Gifts and Experiences mtngirl47 Dec 2023 #12
We don't celebrate the holiday ExWhoDoesntCare Dec 2023 #13
Frank Costanza had the right idea! Initech Dec 2023 #16
Did Frank Costanza ever reveal... GiqueCee Dec 2023 #18
If you watch the whole episode, he says the 23rd. Initech Dec 2023 #20
I saw that part... GiqueCee Dec 2023 #29
This is a very teacher-centric answer senseandsensibility Dec 2023 #15
We get a lot of extra mileage... GiqueCee Dec 2023 #17
I vow, to conserve paper mercuryblues Dec 2023 #19
cash Kali Dec 2023 #21
A welcomed gift during any season. Xavier Breath Dec 2023 #22
Avoid plastic gift cards. Buy experience gifts JI7 Dec 2023 #24
Everyone in my family is pretty far away. 2naSalit Dec 2023 #25
So I take it this crowd isn't into exchanging pricey vehicles for Christmas? Xavier Breath Dec 2023 #27
Wrap a beautiful ribbon on your old car! usonian Dec 2023 #30
When our sons, who are now 33 and 31, were little boys... 3catwoman3 Dec 2023 #31
Fuck Christmas gopiscrap Dec 2023 #32

cbabe

(6,648 posts)
1. I give adventures instead of things. Homemade card good for
Sat Dec 2, 2023, 01:42 PM
Dec 2023

‘a fine day out’.

Took young nephew to five different candy stores.

Yes, free samples.

Took piano playing nephew to a free jazz concert.

Biggest grin ever.

hunter

(40,691 posts)
6. I recommended this comment.
Sat Dec 2, 2023, 03:05 PM
Dec 2023

I like this new DU feature.

I remember adventures with my grandma more than I do the toys she gave me for Christmas.

IzzaNuDay

(1,296 posts)
23. that's what we're doing
Sat Dec 2, 2023, 10:07 PM
Dec 2023

Travel, a fancy restaurant, going to a concert. Though I do have one gag gift for the spouse this year

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
3. When I was a kid, we were encouraged to cover textbooks with brown paper from bags.
Sat Dec 2, 2023, 02:05 PM
Dec 2023

It was a ritual every fall. We'd be issued the textbooks for our classes and then shown how to cut up paper grocery bags to make book jackets. I loved handling the soft brown paper, making crisp folds, taping the jacket together. Then we could decorate the covers with colored pens. This was the 70s - the age of peace and love and hearts and butterflies.

As a mom of young children, I showed them how to wrap and decorate presents with old paper bags. We cut sponges into shapes and dipped them in paint to decorate the paper.

We also made homemade Christmas tree decorations, like chains made from scraps of wrapping paper, strings of popcorn and cranberries, etc.

I love all those homey handmade and found art decorations. That's how people decorated before we had Target and Balsam Hill.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
26. That was before paper bags were ruining the environment
Sat Dec 2, 2023, 11:03 PM
Dec 2023

That was when you got a side eye if you dared asked for paper bags at the grocery store. If you did, you were the devil.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
14. We used holly berries
Sat Dec 2, 2023, 04:58 PM
Dec 2023

Where we lived, they'd come out right at the time for making the garlands. PITA to harvest them, though.

My grand-da was a master at collecting and mounting the boughs of holly that hung over doors and such. After he died, nobody else would bother.

llmart

(17,623 posts)
7. Think before you buy.
Sat Dec 2, 2023, 03:13 PM
Dec 2023

Are you buying just because the TV tells you to? Those sappy Christmas commercials make you feel like there's something wrong with you if you're not out buying something for everyone and their Aunt Tillie. As a senior citizen who also lives in a community of people who are almost all seniors, most of us don't really want any more stuff. I made it very clear to my grown children that I do not want things and they have been very good at listening to me. I also don't buy gifts for them unless it's something "consumable" meaning it actually gets used and used up. They are both in their 50's and make enough money that they just buy whatever they want anyway. I do get a few small things for my only grandchild - mostly art supplies.

There was a time in this country when Christmas presents were not expected to be wrapped. The children's toys were placed under the tree on Christmas Eve after they were asleep.

Also, you don't have to do whatever you've done in the past over and over again if the tradition has outlived it's life. As Maya Angelou said, "You do the best with what you have, but when you know better, you should do better." We know how our climate and planet is struggling from our past mistakes, so all of us need to do better.

redqueen

(115,186 posts)
11. "You do the best with what you have, but when you know better, you should do better."
Sat Dec 2, 2023, 03:52 PM
Dec 2023

Great quote!

And I'm so with you on thoughtful gift giving. There's so much unnecessary junk advertised constantly. Ads attack our subconscious with those messages and it burns me up.

mtngirl47

(1,243 posts)
12. Food Gifts and Experiences
Sat Dec 2, 2023, 03:59 PM
Dec 2023

I make homemade goodies----jam & jelly, pickles, cookies, breads, spaghetti sauce
I buy baskets and other containers at thrift stores, add a bow and fill the basket.

For my family I always go for experiences we can share together....like a trip or event or concert....all expenses paid.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
13. We don't celebrate the holiday
Sat Dec 2, 2023, 04:45 PM
Dec 2023

That saves quite a bit on, well, everything. No trees or decorations or any of that.

The husband's co-workers do the gift card thing, so that's easy enough. The only other gifts we bother with are for our mums. The husband's mum loves unique food gifts that we order online. I make something for my mum, food or art, and I usually look for making it with something on sale (food stuffs), at hand or reusable. This year, it will be a spice mix assortment packed in small Mason jars she bought for herself years ago at a yard sale, then gave to me. Now she'll get some back, LOL.

Lately, I get a nail polish subscription box. I don't decide the colors, so some are duds for me, but those are invariably what my mum loves. So I save those up for her and toss them in for the holiday, so that she doesn't have to rely on iffy polishes at the salon. 84 years old and still gets her nails done every week. That's my mum.

Right before COVID, I bought a cart load of wrapping goods from the grocer's clearance aisle, as if I knew... Still have plenty of that supply for years to come. I even package/wrap and send gifts in packing material and boxes I save from prior received shipments, LOL. Why buy those things when people are handing them to me?

GiqueCee

(4,259 posts)
18. Did Frank Costanza ever reveal...
Sat Dec 2, 2023, 06:44 PM
Dec 2023

... the date of Festivus? I was always a big Seinfeld fan, but I don't recall ever hearing the date. was it the 25th?

Initech

(108,783 posts)
20. If you watch the whole episode, he says the 23rd.
Sat Dec 2, 2023, 07:59 PM
Dec 2023

I always make a point to watch it on that day every year. A FESTIVUS FOR THE REST OF US!!!!!

GiqueCee

(4,259 posts)
29. I saw that part...
Sat Dec 2, 2023, 11:44 PM
Dec 2023

... but I missed the date. Thanks! Now I know when to have the celebration.

senseandsensibility

(24,978 posts)
15. This is a very teacher-centric answer
Sat Dec 2, 2023, 06:22 PM
Dec 2023

but for years I wanted to give something to all my students, which is cost prohibitive when you're talking about between 35-180 students. So I settled on personalized holiday pencils (sold in teachers' catalogs). Kids loved them and they were consumed (except for the shavings) with no packaging required. Well, I think it's better than some plastic item that will end up in the landfill anyway.

GiqueCee

(4,259 posts)
17. We get a lot of extra mileage...
Sat Dec 2, 2023, 06:36 PM
Dec 2023

... out of gift wrap and clothing boxes by wrapping only the lid of the box. They're much easier to open, there's no mountain of shredded gift wrap to that would otherwise head for the landfill, and you can reuse them for years.

mercuryblues

(16,415 posts)
19. I vow, to conserve paper
Sat Dec 2, 2023, 06:49 PM
Dec 2023

that I won't write out checks for the kids this year.

In all seriousness. I have been reusing gift boxes for close to a decade now.

Not the flimsy cardboard types. These are heavy duty boxes, that I find after Christmas, deeply discounted.


I even use shoe boxes. I wrap the lids and the bottom box separately. Place gift inside the box, put on the lid tie a ribbon around it. Those will last for several years. When they look worn out, I use them to store decorations in.

JI7

(93,617 posts)
24. Avoid plastic gift cards. Buy experience gifts
Sat Dec 2, 2023, 10:50 PM
Dec 2023

such as a cooking class, visit to a park, movies and make sure the places are easily available to the person you are giving it to.

Food gifts are usually good.

Things like a plain t shirt or socks can be better than some pretty gifty item which just takes up space.

2naSalit

(102,804 posts)
25. Everyone in my family is pretty far away.
Sat Dec 2, 2023, 10:59 PM
Dec 2023

So we send boxes. There are two themes with this, the exact date is rarely met with the gift of the occasion so that's where "Birthmas" comes in. It's a box of items that were collected with the recipient in mind and delivered when convenient for the sender and is meant to cover all occasions since the last "Birthmas" gift, whenever that was.

The other thing, sometimes I manage to get a box off to the family and it actually got there in time for the holiday. The last time I did that, to make some feel like they were not required to reciprocate, I called it the "brown bag xmas" which gave me lots of freedom. I literally filled a brown bag of whatever was meant for each person, stapled it at the top and put it in the unadorned box. decorated with sharpies.

They thought it was unique and fun, left no mess at the end and everybody had a bag for their stuff.

All the gifts were hand made, mostly.

Xavier Breath

(6,640 posts)
27. So I take it this crowd isn't into exchanging pricey vehicles for Christmas?
Sat Dec 2, 2023, 11:08 PM
Dec 2023

These commercials make me ill. Nothing says 'Happy Birthday Jesus' like $50,000 worth of conspicuous consumerism.



usonian

(25,328 posts)
30. Wrap a beautiful ribbon on your old car!
Sat Dec 2, 2023, 11:55 PM
Dec 2023

I posted this "gift" in the lounge today. Just for fun. I like to find weird stuff in thrift stores, and photograph it rather than buy it.

Give one to rich snots you know.



Next: solar powered prayer wheels.

3catwoman3

(29,406 posts)
31. When our sons, who are now 33 and 31, were little boys...
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 01:11 AM
Dec 2023

...my mom did a wonderful thing for me. She made lots of bags out of Christmas fabric. Shaped like pillow cases, and made in a variety of sizes, colors, and patterns. They are beautiful.

No paper, no cutting, no tape. Drop a gift in the appropriate size bag, tie a ribbon or piece of yarn around the top, and good to go. Fast, neat, and environmentally friendly. It was one of the best things she ever did for me.

gopiscrap

(24,734 posts)
32. Fuck Christmas
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 02:04 AM
Dec 2023

don't buy shit for anyone, it's an over hyped holiday designed to sucker people into buying stuff for others out of guilt and greed then you will not only save money but also help the environment, in addition to can use the money you save to help financially support liberal political causes and issues

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