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President Joe Biden has retaken the lead against his presumptuous 2024 Republican challenger Donald Trump in a new survey.
A Morning Consult Poll released Tuesday showed that Biden with a narrow 43 to 42 percent lead over Trump in a hypothetical 2024 race, with 11 percent of respondents stating they would vote for "someone else" and 5 percent still undecided.
The latest poll of 6,527 registered voters was conducted between November 24 and 26, and arrives after a previous Morning Consult survey conducted between November 18 and 20 revealed Biden was trailing Trump by four points when people were asked who they would vote for in the 2024 race. The four-point lead Biden has managed to claw back from Trump in a matter of days was the largest deficit recorded for the president since Morning Consult began its daily tracking of the White House race in December 2022.
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-trump-morning-consult-poll-2024-1847994
SWBTATTReg
(26,257 posts)our Country and our citizens. Of course he'll win, and he'll win by a landslide. When tRUMP's scandals get too much, when tRUMP's crazy behavior and idiotic ramblings get to be too much, the Democratic party will still be here, will still do things 100% for the good of the Country and citizens alike.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,236 posts)PortTack
(35,820 posts)kimbutgar
(27,248 posts)Israel/Hamas conflict. So do they think Muslims are gong to vote for TFG who said he wants to do a Muslim ban?
The idiocy of these polls drive me crazy. The maggot did nothing to help the American people and had the worst pandemic response.
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)Mehdi Hasan, for example, at MSNBC said no one in his family or friends is going to vote for Biden in 2024, but he didn't say what their alternative plan was.
"The idiocy of these polls drive me crazy."
The polls aren't the problem. The respondents who say they're still going to support Trump are the problem.
PortTack
(35,820 posts)Silent3
(15,909 posts)Do you think he lied and made that up?
Do you think it's true, but for some reason he was obligated not to say it?
PortTack
(35,820 posts)His show is supposed to be news, not what he and his family are or are not doing! That isnt news
DownriverDem
(7,014 posts)If they understand what not voting for Biden means, they would vote for the Dems all the way. Same with unhappy repubs. Nothing in the repub party will change until the repubs are totally defeated. I don't care if you agree with the Dems or not. If you really want to save our country you must vote for the Dems.
ColinC
(11,098 posts)As we saw in 2016
Celerity
(54,409 posts)Example:
100 voters
48 vote for Biden
46 vote for Trump
6 vote for a 3rd party or stay home
Biden wins
100 voters
48 vote for Biden
49 vote for Trump vote for Trump
3 vote 3rd party or stay home
Trump wins
But losing a normally consistent voting block conflated with your average apathetic voter is certainly a losing combination
TheRickles
(3,386 posts)We should put more focus on the 33% of eligible voters who didn't/won't participate - GOTV!!!
Celerity
(54,409 posts)JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)this poll is concerned 43 to 42 is a dead heat, the only thing this poll demonstrates compared to the other recent polls, is that the illustrious media seems to remain inconspicuously quiet when a poll shows President Biden somewhat ahead, but shouts from the rooftops when a poll shows trump in the lead.
SoFlaBro
(3,790 posts)womanofthehills
(10,988 posts)The Messing Harris x poll from Thursday, Nov 30, is a warning about Independent candidates. We have a big problem with independent candidates! When Stein is included in polls, she is pulling 1% - but shes not included in Harris X Poll from 2 days ago.
Trump 43
Biden. 36
Kennedy. 17
West. 4
SoFlaBro
(3,790 posts)womanofthehills
(10,988 posts)(Hes pulling slightly more from Trump)
Surveys have shown him polling higher than any third-party candidate in 40 years.
The New York Times/Siena swing-state polls showed him getting up to a quarter of the potential vote in some states. He pulled slightly more from Donald Trump than President Biden.
A recent Quinnipiac poll had him at a whopping 22% when matched up with Biden and Trump. He pulled from both men in that survey, though Biden maintained a 3-point lead over Trump.
https://www.npr.org/2023/11/18/1212875445/rfk-jr-s-poll-numbers-remain-high-what-explains-this-and-can-it-last
SoFlaBro
(3,790 posts)DownriverDem
(7,014 posts)The MSM is corp owned and run. They want trump to win.
Lovie777
(22,983 posts)Haley 20 points ahead of Pres. Biden.
David__77
(24,728 posts)Lunabell
(7,309 posts)You know,
womanofthehills
(10,988 posts)(She is so pro war - she has all the war hawks donating to her. Now she has Koch & Home Depot backing her. )
Look at this:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general_election_haley_vs_biden-8127.html
Plus :
Forbes on New Hampshire - (similar in Michigan)
But the survey shows Haley is the only GOP presidential candidate who would beat Biden in the state, leading him 45% to 39%, while Trump would lose to Biden by five points.
The Emerson College poll of 917 registered voters taken November 10-13 (margin of error 3.3) shows Haley has gained 14 points since the groups last survey in August.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/11/15/nikki-haley-surges-in-new-hampshire-where-she-would-beat-biden-and-desantis-poll-shows/?sh=e9f694546289
Lunabell
(7,309 posts)anciano
(2,256 posts)The election will be decided by a relatively small number of voters in several battleground states that will determine how the electoral college votes are allocated.
WarGamer
(18,613 posts)Fast fact...
Without the excess votes for Clinton in California...
Trump won the popular 49 State vote in 2016 by over a million votes
(Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million votes... but she won California by 4 million votes)
If the national numbers are a nail biter on election night, it's a red tsunami.
GOTV.
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)Biden won the popular vote by 4.5%. The baseline to overcome the imbalance of the EC isn't much lower than that.
Turnout was also the highest since 1900. We need similar numbers in 2024.
DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)Somehow I doubt it... but glad to see these most recent results anyway.
mwb970
(12,150 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(106,212 posts)Yes, I think it's just a poor writer who meant "presumptive".
patphil
(9,068 posts)Trump's base, yes it does.
But, people who would rather see a younger, more vital, candidate are trying to put pressure on President Biden not to run for reelection, so they are holding back, saying they will vote for someone else.
I'm not buying that.
It's Joe's decision, and if he goes for reelection, he will have my full support.
ANYONE the Democrats put up for President will get my full support.
Personally, I think Joe's still got it, and deserves our support.
Geez, the alternative is too scary to even think about.
W_HAMILTON
(10,333 posts)When a poll shows Trump up, it's blasted all over the airwaves.
When a poll shows Biden up, it's not even reported on.
GreenWave
(12,641 posts)Imagine them without a 24/7 brainwash campaign.
TheRickles
(3,386 posts)Predicting the weather a year from now based on today's temperature.
ananda
(35,145 posts)I just add 10 points to every poll.
But Trump overperformed in 2016 and 2020, so maybe not.