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duckworth969

(600 posts)
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 03:02 PM Dec 2023

Muslim American support for Biden 2024

The sentence that caught my eye was about Arizona.

“In Arizona, where Biden won by around 10,500 votes, there are over 25,000 Muslim voters according to the US Immigration Policy Center at the University of California San Diego, said Phoenix pharmacist Hazim Nasaredden.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/03/muslim-leaders-swing-states-abandon-biden-campaign

I’m concerned about this.

I understand that Muslim Americans don’t have many options for 2024 other than sitting on their hands or voting for all offices save the presidency.

But it’s certainly not good news.

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Muslim American support for Biden 2024 (Original Post) duckworth969 Dec 2023 OP
Maybe the threats will work. Mosby Dec 2023 #1
It's still a year away so I'm not going to worry...this war shit needs to wrap up ASAP. nt GuppyGal Dec 2023 #2
I am worried too. But don't assume all of mucifer Dec 2023 #3
If they're smart, they'll still vote Dem gulliver Dec 2023 #4
He is not getting strong support from every other constituency. Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #9
That's my reading, too. Basic LA Dec 2023 #12
Most of those bloc losses are due to taking our eye off the ball wrt class consciousness gulliver Dec 2023 #17
I've heard about the alleged losses among black & Hispanic voters from MSM duckworth969 Dec 2023 #18
How many of them actually voted? NYC Liberal Dec 2023 #5
They are 1% of the population JustAnotherGen Dec 2023 #6
It is certainly not too late. David__77 Dec 2023 #7
if your primary focus is on foreign policy stopdiggin Dec 2023 #8
That was for sure an issue in 1968. David__77 Dec 2023 #10
I wish more of us would see ... Basic LA Dec 2023 #13
and of course the solution there is to vote Republican stopdiggin Dec 2023 #14
I think the solution is to campaign for a course correction now. David__77 Dec 2023 #15
the 'course correction' has been in play stopdiggin Dec 2023 #16
Reminds me of the stupid Bernie Bros that sat home in 2016 because they didn't get their favorite Bernie ice cream. SoFlaBro Dec 2023 #11
Likely too small to make a difference Mountainguy Dec 2023 #19
Muslims may not be happy w Biden, but if they think the GOP is a better choice, FlyingPiggy Dec 2023 #20
Not going to be gaslit. Not going to be intimidated. Not going to be blackmailed. OilemFirchen Dec 2023 #21

mucifer

(23,523 posts)
3. I am worried too. But don't assume all of
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 03:19 PM
Dec 2023

The Muslim voters voted for President Biden

Super scary times we live in for so many reasons.

gulliver

(13,180 posts)
4. If they're smart, they'll still vote Dem
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 03:20 PM
Dec 2023

And Biden's strong support for Israel will most likely increase his vote count from basically every other demographic.

Big Blue Marble

(5,058 posts)
9. He is not getting strong support from every other constituency.
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 03:51 PM
Dec 2023

He is bleeding support from the black community, the hispanic community, young
voters and even a small majority of women are no longer supporting this war.

The only constituency that strongly supports the war are the MAGA;s.

His popularity has fallen to 37% and will fall further if this war continues at
the pace of death and destruction that we are seeing in Gaza, 700 deaths
in 24 hours, mostly women and children. Israel is not listening to the
administration"s admonishments. In fact, it would seem the more we ask them
to take precautions the more they ramp up the bombings; it makes Biden
look weak, not strong. He has got to turn this crisis around to stabilize his
Democratic support.

gulliver

(13,180 posts)
17. Most of those bloc losses are due to taking our eye off the ball wrt class consciousness
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 05:01 PM
Dec 2023

That is, we're losing working- and middle-class folks in the white, black, and Hispanic demos. We need to focus strongly on bread-and-butter issues and give the "cultural issues" only the priority their democratic level of support (one-person-one-voice) within the party justifies. That means voting rights, health care, protecting reproductive freedom, infrastructure, good schools, good jobs, and taking action on immigration. Those come first according to my reading.

Biden is doing a fantastic job as President, and I trust he'll lead the country and Democratic Party just fine.

duckworth969

(600 posts)
18. I've heard about the alleged losses among black & Hispanic voters from MSM
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 06:12 PM
Dec 2023

But haven’t seen any data outside of those sources.

JustAnotherGen

(31,798 posts)
6. They are 1% of the population
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 03:26 PM
Dec 2023
According to Emgage, the top five domestic issues for Muslim voters are jobs and the economy, civil rights, health care, voting rights and foreign policy
https://www.prri.org/spotlight/factoring-the-muslim-vote-into-american-elections/

Foreign Policy may take a back seat to their personal civil rights as Americans, jobs, financial health and ability to vote.

I'm posting as a black American:

Welcome to the Party! Suck it up buttercup! Or - say good bye to freedom as you've known it.

I also expect loyalty to their country over a foreign land.

stopdiggin

(11,292 posts)
8. if your primary focus is on foreign policy
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 03:44 PM
Dec 2023

rather than civil rights, education, health care, social policy, immigration, voting rights and justice ....
Then I still think you should be supporting the Democratic ticket.
But, of course - you should definitely do you.
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David__77

(23,367 posts)
10. That was for sure an issue in 1968.
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 04:06 PM
Dec 2023

We had the Voting Rights Act, the Civil Rights Act, and a highly immoral war against Vietnam.

David__77

(23,367 posts)
15. I think the solution is to campaign for a course correction now.
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 04:30 PM
Dec 2023

The vice presidents statement yesterday was a good one.

stopdiggin

(11,292 posts)
16. the 'course correction' has been in play
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 04:37 PM
Dec 2023

for most of this conflict. It's just that some are not listening, or not satisfied with results.
But a change in the White House certainly offers nothing in the way of hope, or solution.
And stupid is still stupid.

SoFlaBro

(1,915 posts)
11. Reminds me of the stupid Bernie Bros that sat home in 2016 because they didn't get their favorite Bernie ice cream.
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 04:14 PM
Dec 2023

Fucking childish.

Mountainguy

(520 posts)
19. Likely too small to make a difference
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 06:21 PM
Dec 2023

Not all of them voted, and not all of those voted for Biden in 2020.

Also, not all will not vote for Biden in 2024.

FlyingPiggy

(3,383 posts)
20. Muslims may not be happy w Biden, but if they think the GOP is a better choice,
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 06:23 PM
Dec 2023

Then they deserve what they get. And sadly, it will affect us all. This isn’t a policy issue. It’s about fascism & the preservation of democracy.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
21. Not going to be gaslit. Not going to be intimidated. Not going to be blackmailed.
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 06:39 PM
Dec 2023

Nope. Never again. They can go fuck themselves.

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