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Evolve Dammit

(21,779 posts)
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 07:42 PM Dec 2023

Other than MSNBC, is there ANY OTHER MSM willing to do basic journalism when the threat to

Democracy is a "clear and present danger" and we have enemies foreign and DOMESTIC stating OUT LOUD that the Constitution and Rule of Law is to be ignored and dismantled? Where is the REPORTING and fucking OUTRAGE FCS? Sorry for the CAPS but I have listened to the MSM for 8 fucking years and they are such a mamby pamby bunch of journalistic failures.
Totally disgusted given the grave threat(s).

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Other than MSNBC, is there ANY OTHER MSM willing to do basic journalism when the threat to (Original Post) Evolve Dammit Dec 2023 OP
PBS elleng Dec 2023 #1
I have listened and don't hear any alarm per se. Sorry Evolve Dammit Dec 2023 #2
Just facts. elleng Dec 2023 #3
Not hearing the 91 felony counts. No hearing the "vermin" and "blood tainting" rhetoric. If this was a Dem?? Evolve Dammit Dec 2023 #4
vermin TwilightZone Dec 2023 #6
Discussing it all right now. elleng Dec 2023 #7
Let's hope it not too late. Never underestimate the stupidity of the American Electorate. Evolve Dammit Dec 2023 #10
PBS NewsHour discusses serious matters every day, and elleng Dec 2023 #13
There bdamomma Dec 2023 #11
exactly Evolve Dammit Dec 2023 #12
We see what we want to see. TwilightZone Dec 2023 #5
"Stomping feet" ?? I think it is way beyond that. Evolve Dammit Dec 2023 #8
I don't see it that way. pwb Dec 2023 #9
Morning Joe seems to think so. They have on many staff writers for major newspapers and I've heard this conversation CTyankee Dec 2023 #14

Evolve Dammit

(21,779 posts)
4. Not hearing the 91 felony counts. No hearing the "vermin" and "blood tainting" rhetoric. If this was a Dem??
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 07:59 PM
Dec 2023

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
6. vermin
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 08:16 PM
Dec 2023

Evolve Dammit

(21,779 posts)
10. Let's hope it not too late. Never underestimate the stupidity of the American Electorate.
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 08:42 PM
Dec 2023

elleng

(141,926 posts)
13. PBS NewsHour discusses serious matters every day, and
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 09:18 PM
Dec 2023

stupidity of the American Electorate is always with us.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
5. We see what we want to see.
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 08:14 PM
Dec 2023

Most of the major news outlets have reported extensively on Trump's descent into authoritarianism for years. We mostly ignore it for the sake of knee-jerk declaring that all the media is worthless.

They have reported on his vermin rhetoric and noted the similarities to Mussolini and Hitler.

They have reported on his rhetoric about putting his enemies in camps and eliminating threats.

They have reported extensively on pretty much every step of his trials and lawsuits.

Example: CNN today: https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/04/politics/trump-presidential-power-2024/index.html

This is the same CNN that DUers say is far right and never covers Trump's bullshit. Right.

Sensationalizing and projecting outrage are not their job. Their job is to present the facts, not stomp their feet. There's a fine line between presenting an accurate view and editorializing.

Are the major media outlets perfect? Of course not, but they also aren't the bogeymen that DU pretends they are. They cover Trump and his threats to normalcy and democracy extensively. We just mostly choose to pretend otherwise.

pwb

(12,687 posts)
9. I don't see it that way.
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 08:38 PM
Dec 2023

Cable media is against us. The only real investigative journalist are from print media. Cable just repeats what they do with their own spin.

CTyankee

(68,216 posts)
14. Morning Joe seems to think so. They have on many staff writers for major newspapers and I've heard this conversation
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 09:31 PM
Dec 2023

a lot lately. I like seeing these writers because they have their contacts and they talk about what they have learned from the contacts. They are practically all center left, not too scary to the viewers and probably hated by the RW voters who aren't watching anyway. I watch that show because of the writers they have on. Some are cool, like the journalist who wears pearls. He wears a pearl necklace that looks just like the one my mother had.

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