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"If Trump wasn't running, I'm not sure I'd be running," Biden said at a fundraising event for his 2024 campaign outside Boston. "We cannot let him win."
https://news.yahoo.com/biden-not-sure-seek-election-214348852.html
elleng
(141,926 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)elleng
(141,926 posts)not sure what he meant to say at the moment. Guess we'll never know.
nuxvomica
(14,083 posts)And I think he's being honest because maybe he would re-think running if the fate of the democracy didn't hang in the balance.
canetoad
(20,757 posts)And I wish the spoiler candidates and the vacillating voters would take a good hard look at themselves and what is at stake. Joe may be America's last hope. I know that sounds dramatic, but if trump wins in 2024 you are finished as a democracy.
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GoreWon2000
(1,461 posts)There would be no Trump today without Bush/Florida 2000. Trump is using the Bush/Florida 2000 roadmap for his election stealing/dictatorship activities. It's a tragedy for our country that neither Biden or any of the other U.S. Senate dems saw this threat when they refused to co-sponsor the Congressional Black Caucus's challenge to the fraudulent Florida vote count on 1/6/2001 because they all wanted to run for President. Had the dems stood with Al Gore then and made sure that all of the uncounted Florida votes had been counted, our country wouldn't now be in this nightmare. I knew with the Bush 2000 election theft in Florida that our country was now on the path to dictatorship and here we now are. I still don't really think that the Congressional dems truly understand the gravity of the threat that our country now faces. Having said all of this, Biden must now win or it's dictatorship here we come..
enough
(13,757 posts)And is he really saying hes s the only Democrat who could beat Trump?
tritsofme
(19,894 posts)Tribetime
(7,145 posts)tritsofme
(19,894 posts)Tribetime
(7,145 posts)keep_left
(3,209 posts)That may actually be the most important trait that any candidate opposing Trump possesses. It sounds insane to say so, but if you're going up against a professional shitposter like Trump, you'd better be a master of shitposting yourself.
musclecar6
(1,884 posts)Was just telling the truth. To me, the reason hes running is he metaphorically knocked that bully on his ass the last go round and the odds are good hes going to do it again on the next election. Hes the only one that came out of the woodwork that could do this, after everybody else had tried including the 16 people in his party back in 2016 who couldnt contain this exestential threat no good piece of garbage.
MacKasey
(1,518 posts)Tribetime
(7,145 posts)bluestarone
(22,142 posts)Plus, he feels HE has the very best shot at defeating him. ( I kinda believe him)
NowISeetheLight
(4,002 posts)Kind of what I think too.
honest.abe
(9,238 posts)Interesting comment.
misanthrope
(9,484 posts)It's like an addiction for many of these folks.
Midwestern Democrat
(1,029 posts)this point. If there was no threat of Trump returning to office, I could see Biden feeling that one term as president was enough.
SoFlaBro
(3,782 posts)senseandsensibility
(24,923 posts)forthemiddle
(1,459 posts)I find this statement so interesting.
Is he saying that if Trump is unable to run (he won't back out willingly) that he would let someone else run?
I have had a gut feeling, all along, that neither Biden or Trump would be the nominees when push comes to shove.
I know that as of right now the GOP said that even if convicted, Trump would still be nominated by the party. I find that IMPOSSIBLE to believe.
I think the 4 remaining "contestants" don't believe it either.
Do we have confidence that Biden could beat a Nikki Haley? I'm not so sure, I have many moderate women friends that are seriously looking at her.
I do think if her abortion stance becomes center stage, and she is made to answer honestly where she stands, that may change. But as of right now they really like her.
robbob
(3,748 posts)would be to see a slightly more moderate and much less obnoxious candidate running on a platform of pardoning him. Look, sending a former president to jail IS a BFD. All of us here understand that theres a reason he should be in jail; hes a criminal. The seriousness of his crimes are just starting to be hinted at. Why have so many US intelligence assets been compromised? Is it actually possible he was selling secrets to Russia?
However, for the great unwashed and uneducated masses a platform of free poor misunderstood and persecuted Donald from the clutches of a politicized DOJ might just be a winning ticket. The Maggsts already believe this, but its the low info undecideds that could swing the election. They might not be willing to vote for tRump, but they also might not think he should be behind bars.
Not to do a Godwin (sp?) here, but dont forget; before Hitler seized power he did a stint in jail, and emerged stronger then ever.
forthemiddle
(1,459 posts)We just have to hope for the Georgia conviction because thats a State charge, right?
Polybius
(21,881 posts)Very interesting, thank you for posting.
TheProle
(3,980 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(135,553 posts)The shit going down in Chancellorsville made him change his mind.
Tribetime
(7,145 posts)BannonsLiver
(20,568 posts)No need to keep trying to make the same point over and over again.
elleng
(141,926 posts)ancianita
(43,306 posts)JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)Alex Wagner bringing up liar, anti-vaxer, anti-Semite RFK jr trying to blow out of proportion a remark which in no way even implied he wasnt running
Now every Biden hater will come out of the woodwork
elleng
(141,926 posts)especially at moment he's devoting solid time to promoting himself for 2d term.
Sure wouldn't blame him for feeling dealing w tmp + netenyahu not his or anyone's cup of tea, but suggesting it NOT wise, imo. Yes, Now every Biden hater will come out of the woodwork.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)example of exaggeration by some.
Biden will be our nominee, unless something really unforeseen occurs, which isn't going to happen. If he wasn't, he would have told us months ago.
Because of the all or nothing republican primary rules, unless the dynamics change drastically, where some of the republican characters drop out before their South Carolina primary, the person who tried to overthrow the U.S. government will be their nominee.
Assuming that the election is a 2020 redo, I have to believe that the vast majority of progressives and young people will come to their senses and vote straight Democratic.
elleng
(141,926 posts)unhappy to see this negative baggage (as I characterize it,) the statement, that is.
Emile
(42,213 posts)ecstatic
(35,074 posts)trump could either die or be convicted and forced to leave the race due to serving time in a prison. Honestly, I think we should do everything we can to prevent trump from being the nominee. I don't want any chance of him being president again.
We have to be prepared for any qOP nominee. They're all dangerous and backed by fascists in Congress.
Chakaconcarne
(2,786 posts)That is my opinion