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TheProle

(3,980 posts)
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 06:03 PM Dec 2023

Biden 'not sure' he would seek re-election if Trump was not

WESTON, Massachusetts (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden said on Tuesday he is not sure he would be seeking re-election if he were not facing Republican Donald Trump.

"If Trump wasn't running, I'm not sure I'd be running," Biden said at a fundraising event for his 2024 campaign outside Boston. "We cannot let him win."


https://news.yahoo.com/biden-not-sure-seek-election-214348852.html
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Biden 'not sure' he would seek re-election if Trump was not (Original Post) TheProle Dec 2023 OP
I don't like the sound of that, sounds like Malarkey. elleng Dec 2023 #1
Agree Rebl2 Dec 2023 #10
Are you suggesting that he didn't say it or didn't mean it? brooklynite Dec 2023 #21
Obviously he said it, elleng Dec 2023 #22
I think he's just trying to emphasize how serious the threat is nuxvomica Dec 2023 #2
I agree canetoad Dec 2023 #15
No Trump without Bush/Florida 2000 GoreWon2000 Dec 2023 #36
Strange thing for him to say. Makes him sound reluctant to continue as President. enough Dec 2023 #3
He might be, it was certainly the case in 2020. tritsofme Dec 2023 #6
Yes in 2020 he was not now Tribetime Dec 2023 #18
I'd rather not try to find out. tritsofme Dec 2023 #20
I hope you never have to say you were wrong Tribetime Dec 2023 #27
He may be the only Democrat who can stand up to Trump's bullying and abuse. keep_left Dec 2023 #29
I think he musclecar6 Dec 2023 #4
Biden beat him once and he will beat him again MacKasey Dec 2023 #5
You are much more confident than me Tribetime Dec 2023 #19
I honestly think Joe is super worried TFG could win. bluestarone Dec 2023 #7
Yes NowISeetheLight Dec 2023 #8
So if Trump is not the nominee he would drop out?? honest.abe Dec 2023 #9
He's a lifelong politico so it is doubtful misanthrope Dec 2023 #13
Well, he's 81 - I don't have any doubts that he can do the job, but he just might like to enjoy some retirement years at Midwestern Democrat Dec 2023 #23
Biden is merely worried about Pol Potbelly winning the election. SoFlaBro Dec 2023 #11
CNN treating this like a scandal senseandsensibility Dec 2023 #12
Not really a "scandal" but still extremely interesting, and yes newsworthy forthemiddle Dec 2023 #34
My worry about tRump being convicted and imprisoned robbob Dec 2023 #40
Good point! forthemiddle Dec 2023 #42
I just posted this in LBN Polybius Dec 2023 #14
Of course. Likewise. TheProle Dec 2023 #17
He wasn't planning to run in the first place till Trump won in 2016 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2023 #16
I just hope he's the right one 2nd time around....I lost my confidence Tribetime Dec 2023 #28
Yes, you've made it clear you wish he wasn't running again BannonsLiver Dec 2023 #41
*Alex Wagner about to discuss it now. elleng Dec 2023 #24
Jaime Harrison's nailing it down. ancianita Dec 2023 #25
Fuck the news media, including MSNBC, and Reuters, pushing bullshit JohnSJ Dec 2023 #26
Sad to hear it, elleng Dec 2023 #30
Agreed, but he said something like this when he first ran for President. I suspect this is an JohnSJ Dec 2023 #31
Yes, he'll be our nominee, and I'm glad of it, but elleng Dec 2023 #35
Same here JohnSJ Dec 2023 #38
Trump will be in prison, nothing to worry about. Emile Dec 2023 #32
That's a problematic statement in my opinion ecstatic Dec 2023 #33
Newsom should be ready in the wings..... Chakaconcarne Dec 2023 #37
VP Kamala Harris is "in the wings" JohnSJ Dec 2023 #39

elleng

(141,926 posts)
22. Obviously he said it,
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 09:45 PM
Dec 2023

not sure what he meant to say at the moment. Guess we'll never know.

nuxvomica

(14,083 posts)
2. I think he's just trying to emphasize how serious the threat is
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 06:10 PM
Dec 2023

And I think he's being honest because maybe he would re-think running if the fate of the democracy didn't hang in the balance.

canetoad

(20,757 posts)
15. I agree
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 08:10 PM
Dec 2023

And I wish the spoiler candidates and the vacillating voters would take a good hard look at themselves and what is at stake. Joe may be America's last hope. I know that sounds dramatic, but if trump wins in 2024 you are finished as a democracy.

Rec.

 

GoreWon2000

(1,461 posts)
36. No Trump without Bush/Florida 2000
Wed Dec 6, 2023, 02:14 PM
Dec 2023

There would be no Trump today without Bush/Florida 2000. Trump is using the Bush/Florida 2000 roadmap for his election stealing/dictatorship activities. It's a tragedy for our country that neither Biden or any of the other U.S. Senate dems saw this threat when they refused to co-sponsor the Congressional Black Caucus's challenge to the fraudulent Florida vote count on 1/6/2001 because they all wanted to run for President. Had the dems stood with Al Gore then and made sure that all of the uncounted Florida votes had been counted, our country wouldn't now be in this nightmare. I knew with the Bush 2000 election theft in Florida that our country was now on the path to dictatorship and here we now are. I still don't really think that the Congressional dems truly understand the gravity of the threat that our country now faces. Having said all of this, Biden must now win or it's dictatorship here we come..

enough

(13,757 posts)
3. Strange thing for him to say. Makes him sound reluctant to continue as President.
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 06:12 PM
Dec 2023

And is he really saying he’s s the only Democrat who could beat Trump?

keep_left

(3,209 posts)
29. He may be the only Democrat who can stand up to Trump's bullying and abuse.
Wed Dec 6, 2023, 02:15 AM
Dec 2023

That may actually be the most important trait that any candidate opposing Trump possesses. It sounds insane to say so, but if you're going up against a professional shitposter like Trump, you'd better be a master of shitposting yourself.

musclecar6

(1,884 posts)
4. I think he
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 06:46 PM
Dec 2023

Was just telling the truth. To me, the reason he’s running is he metaphorically knocked that bully on his ass the last go round and the odds are good he’s going to do it again on the next election. He’s the only one that came out of the woodwork that could do this, after everybody else had tried including the 16 people in his party back in 2016 who couldn’t contain this exestential threat no good piece of garbage.

bluestarone

(22,142 posts)
7. I honestly think Joe is super worried TFG could win.
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 06:51 PM
Dec 2023

Plus, he feels HE has the very best shot at defeating him. ( I kinda believe him)

misanthrope

(9,484 posts)
13. He's a lifelong politico so it is doubtful
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 07:21 PM
Dec 2023

It's like an addiction for many of these folks.

Midwestern Democrat

(1,029 posts)
23. Well, he's 81 - I don't have any doubts that he can do the job, but he just might like to enjoy some retirement years at
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 10:28 PM
Dec 2023

this point. If there was no threat of Trump returning to office, I could see Biden feeling that one term as president was enough.

forthemiddle

(1,459 posts)
34. Not really a "scandal" but still extremely interesting, and yes newsworthy
Wed Dec 6, 2023, 10:18 AM
Dec 2023

I find this statement so interesting.
Is he saying that if Trump is unable to run (he won't back out willingly) that he would let someone else run?
I have had a gut feeling, all along, that neither Biden or Trump would be the nominees when push comes to shove.
I know that as of right now the GOP said that even if convicted, Trump would still be nominated by the party. I find that IMPOSSIBLE to believe.
I think the 4 remaining "contestants" don't believe it either.
Do we have confidence that Biden could beat a Nikki Haley? I'm not so sure, I have many moderate women friends that are seriously looking at her.
I do think if her abortion stance becomes center stage, and she is made to answer honestly where she stands, that may change. But as of right now they really like her.

robbob

(3,748 posts)
40. My worry about tRump being convicted and imprisoned
Wed Dec 6, 2023, 03:23 PM
Dec 2023

would be to see a slightly more moderate and much less obnoxious candidate running on a platform of pardoning him. Look, sending a former president to jail IS a BFD. All of us here understand that there’s a reason he should be in jail; he’s a criminal. The seriousness of his crimes are just starting to be hinted at. Why have so many US intelligence assets been compromised? Is it actually possible he was selling secrets to Russia?

However, for the great unwashed and uneducated masses a platform of “free poor misunderstood and persecuted Donald from the clutches of a politicized DOJ” might just be a winning ticket. The Maggsts already believe this, but it’s the low info “undecideds” that could swing the election. They might not be willing to vote for tRump, but they also might not think he should be behind bars.

Not to do a “Godwin” (sp?) here, but don’t forget; before Hitler seized power he did a stint in jail, and emerged stronger then ever.

forthemiddle

(1,459 posts)
42. Good point!
Wed Dec 6, 2023, 04:07 PM
Dec 2023

We just have to hope for the Georgia conviction because that’s a State charge, right?

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,553 posts)
16. He wasn't planning to run in the first place till Trump won in 2016
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 08:33 PM
Dec 2023

The shit going down in Chancellorsville made him change his mind.

BannonsLiver

(20,568 posts)
41. Yes, you've made it clear you wish he wasn't running again
Wed Dec 6, 2023, 03:29 PM
Dec 2023

No need to keep trying to make the same point over and over again.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
26. Fuck the news media, including MSNBC, and Reuters, pushing bullshit
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 11:48 PM
Dec 2023

Alex Wagner bringing up liar, anti-vaxer, anti-Semite RFK jr trying to blow out of proportion a remark which in no way even implied he wasn’t running

Now every Biden hater will come out of the woodwork

elleng

(141,926 posts)
30. Sad to hear it,
Wed Dec 6, 2023, 03:19 AM
Dec 2023

especially at moment he's devoting solid time to promoting himself for 2d term.

Sure wouldn't blame him for feeling dealing w tmp + netenyahu not his or anyone's cup of tea, but suggesting it NOT wise, imo. Yes, Now every Biden hater will come out of the woodwork.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
31. Agreed, but he said something like this when he first ran for President. I suspect this is an
Wed Dec 6, 2023, 09:47 AM
Dec 2023

example of exaggeration by some.

Biden will be our nominee, unless something really unforeseen occurs, which isn't going to happen. If he wasn't, he would have told us months ago.

Because of the all or nothing republican primary rules, unless the dynamics change drastically, where some of the republican characters drop out before their South Carolina primary, the person who tried to overthrow the U.S. government will be their nominee.

Assuming that the election is a 2020 redo, I have to believe that the vast majority of progressives and young people will come to their senses and vote straight Democratic.






elleng

(141,926 posts)
35. Yes, he'll be our nominee, and I'm glad of it, but
Wed Dec 6, 2023, 02:02 PM
Dec 2023

unhappy to see this negative baggage (as I characterize it,) the statement, that is.

ecstatic

(35,074 posts)
33. That's a problematic statement in my opinion
Wed Dec 6, 2023, 09:55 AM
Dec 2023

trump could either die or be convicted and forced to leave the race due to serving time in a prison. Honestly, I think we should do everything we can to prevent trump from being the nominee. I don't want any chance of him being president again.

We have to be prepared for any qOP nominee. They're all dangerous and backed by fascists in Congress.

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