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BlueKota

(5,351 posts)
Wed Dec 6, 2023, 11:53 PM Dec 2023

My Response to AARP for posting Trump

audio of what he'd supposedly do to benefit seniors:

How do I cancel my membership to AARP? I am highly disgusted by your interviewing the man who tried to have our democracy overthrown, the man under multiple indictments for alleged criminal behavior. A man who threatens not only members of the judiciary but even decorated members of the armed forces. A man who admits he wants to be a dictator.

This is beyond disgusting. Let the Republicans nominate him, if they will, but no reputable organization should be giving him any semblance of legitimacy whatsoever.

I am a historian and have studied dictatorships and what dictators do to their citizens are beyond horrific.

Again please tell me how to cancel any association with your organization, as I want nothing whatsoever to do with any organization willing to help promote such a man.

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My Response to AARP for posting Trump (Original Post) BlueKota Dec 2023 OP
'Source' ?? DemocraticPatriot Dec 2023 #1
Link BlueKota Dec 2023 #2
Thank you... DemocraticPatriot Dec 2023 #3
They asked ALL the Republican candidates. So it makes sense that they included Trump. thesquanderer Dec 2023 #16
I know they asked all the other Republicans BlueKota Dec 2023 #22
Thanks for the context JohnSJ Dec 2023 #26
Hell, he didn't give one idea how he'd improve the lives of Seniors. KS Toronado Dec 2023 #20
One more group to boycott duckworth969 Dec 2023 #4
AARP joined the goddamn MAGA cult. Guess I'll save my $6 donation and start chucking that fucking junk mail. SoFlaBro Dec 2023 #5
They've been helping repugs for years central scrutinizer Dec 2023 #38
I'm fucking done with their MAGA shit-stabbing tactics before I even reach the goddamn age of the clien-fucking-tel. SoFlaBro Dec 2023 #39
Now I feel good stage left Dec 2023 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author stage left Dec 2023 #7
They won't care. They didn't care when we defaced our cards and sent them in... TygrBright Dec 2023 #8
What you describe is ubiquitous in most sectors of the economy and circumstance. PufPuf23 Dec 2023 #18
IMHO.... AARP sold out during Shrub's administration. Hugin Dec 2023 #25
Important to know. 2naSalit Dec 2023 #9
AARP has ALWAYS been a shitstain, and I'm delighted whenever anyone wakes the fuck up👍 bringthePaine Dec 2023 #10
AARP's Billion-Dollar Bounty Celerity Dec 2023 #28
Never have joined aarp and now never will after hearing this! kimbutgar Dec 2023 #11
Of course I had to leave a comment....I really just cannot resist. They can keep their got damn trunk organizer GuppyGal Dec 2023 #12
SELLING SHITTY INSURANCE.... 3Hotdogs Dec 2023 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author TeamProg Dec 2023 #14
We will be quitting AARP. They do lobby for senior benefits, supposedly. Give your money to ACLU instead! nt TeamProg Dec 2023 #15
I get so much garbage email from AARP Tom of Temecula Dec 2023 #17
Good on AARP for exposing Trump and SharonClark Dec 2023 #19
TY.. what are they, Stupid? Cha Dec 2023 #21
We enjoy our AARP membership. The magazines and supplements are interesting to read. Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #23
Conservatives seem to find it necessary to have their own little corner away from everyone else. ificandream Dec 2023 #24
Also one of the posters in the thread pointed out, they asked all the candidates, not just trump, and JohnSJ Dec 2023 #27
No no no. Woodwizard Dec 2023 #29
AH, I missed the class about Pavlov's dogs. Thanks JohnSJ Dec 2023 #30
Thank you for comparing me to dogs BlueKota Dec 2023 #33
I was not doing that at all, and I would never do that. I simply agreeing JohnSJ Dec 2023 #35
Thank you. BlueKota Dec 2023 #36
+++ JohnSJ Dec 2023 #37
See my reply to this responder BlueKota Dec 2023 #32
Fine lets not have anybody voice any opposition BlueKota Dec 2023 #34
Last time I checked none of the other Republican potential nominees BlueKota Dec 2023 #31
 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
1. 'Source' ??
Wed Dec 6, 2023, 11:59 PM
Dec 2023

I have previously had some respect for AARP,
but I have no idea what you are ranting about here....


Please clue in the rest of us, specifically....

?

A link would be good...

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
3. Thank you...
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 12:19 AM
Dec 2023

Disheartening indeed....


("Live in your own home ((under the new fascist government, until we take away your Social Security and you will be driven to the streets)) " )

thesquanderer

(13,006 posts)
16. They asked ALL the Republican candidates. So it makes sense that they included Trump.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 01:48 AM
Dec 2023
https://www.facebook.com/watch/100064357076306/1113501243360161/

That question for me is whether they will also be asking Biden these questions. Though I understand, only the GOP has an open field, with debates, etc., and an ostensibly meaningful choice to be made for those who vote in the Repub primary.

BlueKota

(5,351 posts)
22. I know they asked all the other Republicans
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 08:40 AM
Dec 2023

But none of the others have tried to overthrow the legitimate government yet as far as we know at least.

You're right too that they need to ask President Biden too.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
20. Hell, he didn't give one idea how he'd improve the lives of Seniors.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 02:17 AM
Dec 2023

Plus it looked and sounded like he was reading off a teleprompter.

SoFlaBro

(3,790 posts)
5. AARP joined the goddamn MAGA cult. Guess I'll save my $6 donation and start chucking that fucking junk mail.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 12:38 AM
Dec 2023

central scrutinizer

(12,654 posts)
38. They've been helping repugs for years
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 08:49 PM
Dec 2023
http://globalag.igc.org/health/us/2004/seduction.htm

“ To those few who were really watching closely, however, AARP's actions were not a surprise at all, and the group's conversion was anything but sudden. The story of the Republicans' seduction of AARP unfolded over nearly a decade, as GOP leaders cajoled, seduced, and occasionally threatened the group's leaders into changing their ways and accepting the reality of Republican congressional control. Today, with bad policy already law, the stakes are incredibly high, as regulations to implement the law loom, along with bills to repeal some of its worst aspects. And they will grow higher still if President Bush is re-elected and Republicans can continue toward their ultimate goals. As the battle to preserve Medicare unfolds, Democrats who were surprised by the bill's passage last November should understand a key part of the story, which has not been told, of how it happened.

Possibly the least surprised man in Washington last fall was Newt Gingrich. The former House speaker, who told a Blue Cross conference in 1995 that Medicare as a "government monopoly plan" was going to "wither on the vine" in favor of a Republican-designed "free-market plan," has spent the last nine years manipulating AARP.

Aided by a coterie of Republican representatives and lobbyists, as well as a headhunter firm whose Washington office is run by a Republican operative, Gingrich helped maneuver AARP from the Democratic to the Republican column. The crucial moment arrived in June 2001, with the ascent to the executive director post of Novelli, who centralized policy making by limiting input from local AARP leaders and who brought with him a team of corporate executives to run the group's federal and state policy -- people much more comfortable with Republicans, open to private plans and market-oriented policies, and more willing to make deals than many of the veteran staff. “

SoFlaBro

(3,790 posts)
39. I'm fucking done with their MAGA shit-stabbing tactics before I even reach the goddamn age of the clien-fucking-tel.
Sat Dec 9, 2023, 02:55 AM
Dec 2023

Response to BlueKota (Original post)

TygrBright

(21,362 posts)
8. They won't care. They didn't care when we defaced our cards and sent them in...
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 12:50 AM
Dec 2023

...after they sold us out on prescription drug pricing negotiations.

They're nothing to do with seniors or retired people.

They're basically a graywash organization for the big industries that prey on seniors, and their lobbyists.

wearily,
Bright

PufPuf23

(9,861 posts)
18. What you describe is ubiquitous in most sectors of the economy and circumstance.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 01:50 AM
Dec 2023

Groups that historically benefitted classes of individuals that need to band for power have been coopted by grifters.

Hugin

(37,848 posts)
25. IMHO.... AARP sold out during Shrub's administration.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 09:14 AM
Dec 2023

When they became a subsidiary of UnitedHealthcare during the Medicare D fiasco.

Celerity

(54,410 posts)
28. AARP's Billion-Dollar Bounty
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 09:47 AM
Dec 2023
https://kffhealthnews.org/news/article/aarp-health-marketing-partnerships-medicare-medigap/



In September, AARP, the giant organization for older Americans, agreed to promote a burgeoning chain of medical clinics called Oak Street Health, which has opened more than 100 primary care outlets in nearly two dozen states. The deal gave Oak Street exclusive rights to use the trusted AARP brand in its marketing — for which the company pays AARP an undisclosed fee. AARP doesn’t detail how this business relationship works or how companies are vetted to determine they are worthy of the group’s coveted seal of approval. But its financial reports to the IRS show that AARP collects a total of about $1 billion annually in these fees — mostly from health care-related businesses, which are eager to sell their wares to the group’s nearly 38 million dues-paying members. And a paid AARP partnership comes with a lot: AARP promotes its partners in mailings and on its website, and the partners can use the familiar AARP logo for advertisements in magazines, online, or on television. AARP calls the payments “royalties.”

AARP’s 2020 financial statement, the latest available, reports just over $1 billion in royalties. That’s more than three times what it collected in member dues, just over $300 million, according to the report. Of the royalties, $752 million were from unnamed “health products and services.” But controversy has long dogged these sorts of alliances, which have multiplied over the years, and the latest is no exception. Are the chosen partners actually a good choice for AARP’s members, or are they buying the endorsement of one of the country’s most respected organizations with lavish payments? “I don’t have a problem with AARP endorsing travel packages,” said Marilyn Moon, a health policy analyst who worked for the group in the 1980s. But when AARP lobbies on Medicare issues while profiting off partnerships with those who are marketing to Medicare patients, “that certainly is a problem,” Moon said.



There are reasons for concern about the latest partnership. Less than two months after announcing the AARP deal, Oak Street revealed it was the subject of a Justice Department civil investigation into its marketing tactics, including whether it violated a federal law that imposes penalties for filing false claims for payment to the government. Oak Street has denied wrongdoing and says it is cooperating with the investigation. Companies like Oak Street, whose funders have included private equity investors, have alarmed progressive Democrats and some health policy analysts, who worry the companies may try to squeeze excessive profits from Medicare with the services they market mainly to people 65 or older. Oak Street hopes it can cut costs by keeping patients healthy and in the process turn a profit, though it has yet to show it can do so.

AARP has stood for decades as the dominant voice for older Americans, though people of any age can join. Members pay $16 a year or less and enjoy discounts on hundreds of items, from cellphones to groceries to hotels. AARP also staffs a busy lobbying shop that influences government policy on a plethora of issues that affect older people, including the future and solvency of Medicare. Perhaps not as well known: that AARP depends on royalty income to help “serve the needs of those 50-plus through education, programs and advocacy,” said Jason Young, a former AARP senior vice president. “Since our founding, AARP has engaged with the private sector to help advance our nonprofit social mission, including by licensing our brand to vetted companies that are meeting the needs of people as they age,” Young told KHN in an email before leaving his AARP position last month.

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GuppyGal

(1,748 posts)
12. Of course I had to leave a comment....I really just cannot resist. They can keep their got damn trunk organizer
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 01:15 AM
Dec 2023

That got me really really pissed. I may have to call them.

3Hotdogs

(15,368 posts)
13. SELLING SHITTY INSURANCE....
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 01:20 AM
Dec 2023

That's their main purpose of existing.


It was during the Ray Gun administration, when they were caught supporting Ronnie's program to increase the SS age from 64 to 66.

They won,

Response to BlueKota (Original post)

 

TeamProg

(6,630 posts)
15. We will be quitting AARP. They do lobby for senior benefits, supposedly. Give your money to ACLU instead! nt
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 01:44 AM
Dec 2023

SharonClark

(10,497 posts)
19. Good on AARP for exposing Trump and
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 02:13 AM
Dec 2023

showing its FB followers that he has no plan, just word salad platitudes. The videos of the other 3 GQP candidates will be equally repulsive to informed AARP members.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
23. We enjoy our AARP membership. The magazines and supplements are interesting to read.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 09:07 AM
Dec 2023

I think they do good work. Sure, we get "junk mail" too... and it's not big deal to toss it and shred it with the rest of the recycled paper. Plus, they're contributing to the USPS at a time when letters and other business mail is declining. We enjoy the discounts as well.

Apparently they can't please everyone.

Even though AARP is a politically neutral organization, I've heard complaints from the political extremes that it's TOO LIBERAL and that it's TOO CONSERVATIVE.

The conservatives were so disheartened with AARP being too-centrist/neutral that some among them formed the Association of Mature American Citizens (AMAC). AMAC positions itself as a conservative alternative to AARP.

AMAC was founded in 2007 and aims to provide conservative advocacy, benefits, and services to Americans aged 50 and older. It presents itself as a politically conservative organization that advocates for limited government, free market principles, and traditional values.

Even though AARP is generally considered a politically neutral organization, AMAC decided to take a different approach and establish itself to specifically to cater to individuals who align with conservative or Republican ideologies.

Although sparse in comparison, it offers similar benefits and services as AARP, such as discounts, insurance options, and information resources, but with an emphasis on conservative values and policy positions.

They struggle to thrive. I think they're a joke. (AMAC has just over 1 million members. AARP has nearly 40 million members.)

ificandream

(11,837 posts)
24. Conservatives seem to find it necessary to have their own little corner away from everyone else.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 09:12 AM
Dec 2023
 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
27. Also one of the posters in the thread pointed out, they asked all the candidates, not just trump, and
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 09:27 AM
Dec 2023

they will do the same thing with Democrats, which will be President Biden.

As for Medicare Supplemental, I go through AARP via UHC Supplemental F, and I sure am not going to cut off my nose to spite my face because they asked the republican candidates what they think. They will also ask President Biden.


Woodwizard

(1,322 posts)
29. No no no.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 10:21 AM
Dec 2023

We have to immediately react and yell and scream every time something is not perfectly to our liking. /s

BlueKota

(5,351 posts)
33. Thank you for comparing me to dogs
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 12:59 PM
Dec 2023

as I prefer them to a number of people. Forgive me for stating my opinion that no organization that supposedly cares about the citizens of this country thinks that a person who tried to have the legitimate government of the U.S. overthrown has anything to say that isn't a lie or of any value whatsoever. Or is just a "normal candidate "

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
35. I was not doing that at all, and I would never do that. I simply agreeing
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 04:36 PM
Dec 2023

with you by mentioning the famous experiment, not trying to infer anything on you personally.

Sorry that I left that impression, because that isn’t what I was saying.

BlueKota

(5,351 posts)
32. See my reply to this responder
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 12:52 PM
Dec 2023

Again for clarification I have no issue with them asking any other potential Republican nominee just the one who has publicly admitted he wants to be a dictator, even though once again, he's tried to couch his words by saying he only meant one day.

BlueKota

(5,351 posts)
34. Fine lets not have anybody voice any opposition
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 01:02 PM
Dec 2023

to Orange Stalin. We wouldn't want to be accused of over-reacting to anyone pretending a want to be dictator is any different than any other candidate right?

Let's see how that works out! If anything people are under-reacting that's why we are on the verge of kissing Democracy goodbye!

BlueKota

(5,351 posts)
31. Last time I checked none of the other Republican potential nominees
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 12:47 PM
Dec 2023

incited an attempt to over throw the legitimate government of this country, or publicly threatened not only their political adversaries, but decorated members of our military, or members of the judicial branch. Also none of them have ever said they never vowed to support the constitution.

I don't have a problem with the asking any other Republican potential nominee just with them including Orange Stalin.

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