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Tom of Temecula

(1,632 posts)
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 01:45 AM Dec 2023

Donald Trump's allies and former officials are really upset about Taylor Swift

Donald Trump's former administration officials and other allies are extremely upset about Taylor Swift and her political opinions. Trump himself has had disputes with Swift. He posted a lot of supportive content about her until she came after him in 2018, prompting him to say he likes her music less than before.

But now, his surrogates seem to be doing the attacking. Far-right commentator Jack Posobiec, whose content has been shared by the former president, responded to Time Magazine posting early Wednesday that Swift had been named the 2023 person of the year. He said the singer's "girlboss psyop has been fully activated."

He then went on to attack her boyfriend. "From her hand-selected vaccine shill boyfriend to her DINK lifestyle to her upcoming 2024 voter operation for Democrats on abortion rights It’s all coming," Posobiec wrote on Wednesday.

Jeff Clark, an attorney in Trump's former administration as well as a co-defendant in the criminal case out of Fulton County, Georgia, reposted Posobiec's comment about Swift's so-called "Girlboss psyop." Clark blamed society and "culture." "This is what happens when we cede culture to the Left. Brainless youth raising themselves on Taylor Swift’s saccharine bland music and that washing over into the serious world of politics," he wrote Wednesday.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-swift-feud/

The real reason for all the Trumpy whining:

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Donald Trump's allies and former officials are really upset about Taylor Swift (Original Post) Tom of Temecula Dec 2023 OP
The voting registrations at her concerts are the problem. Deuxcents Dec 2023 #1
What "culture" does Clark prefer? Kidd Rock? onenote Dec 2023 #2
And the Nuge. Anyone who says he's great. dchill Dec 2023 #4
Clark probably prefers the culture of the '50s. Lonestarblue Dec 2023 #47
Like They Say, "Make America Great Again"! The Roux Comes First Dec 2023 #54
"...girlboss psyop has been fully activated." dchill Dec 2023 #3
Girlboss Psyop maxrandb Dec 2023 #20
Would be great if that was the title to her next single/album. Probatim Dec 2023 #29
maybe I'll steal it for a column title WhiteTara Dec 2023 #44
They only mock and degrade her because they fear her influence. ZonkerHarris Dec 2023 #5
Dissecting Posobiecs comment is an overview of GOP trigger-point strategy lostnfound Dec 2023 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author onenote Dec 2023 #7
I admit it. I'm old ExWhoDoesntCare Dec 2023 #8
Double income, no kids Skittles Dec 2023 #10
I think Dual income no kids Old Crank Dec 2023 #15
These fucks are always upset about something ...they can shove their pearls straight up their ass. nt GuppyGal Dec 2023 #9
they are all about suppressing the vote Skittles Dec 2023 #11
Bad for magats Good for America Cha Dec 2023 #12
Summer or Winter Roy Rolling Dec 2023 #13
Dual income? quakerboy Dec 2023 #14
criticize a woman who makes $200 million a year for having a dual income lifestyle.... jcgoldie Dec 2023 #23
I almost fell out of my chair seeing DINK resurrected! Hugin Dec 2023 #24
Who's even the other income? jcgoldie Dec 2023 #32
They can't imagine that a woman is wealthy all by herself. yardwork Dec 2023 #46
Girlboss is also a belittling term Old Crank Dec 2023 #16
They need to calm down. Nt Tommy Carcetti Dec 2023 #17
They would have been apoplectic over ANYONE other than drumpf being picked Takket Dec 2023 #18
"saccharine bland music and that washing over into the serious world of politic" Cosmocat Dec 2023 #19
They can go right ahead and attack Taylor Swift. tanyev Dec 2023 #21
Childish namecalling ... that's a tactic of magamania. ificandream Dec 2023 #22
Taylor uses her fame and wealth for good. TSExile Dec 2023 #25
A lot to unpack there, but one creepy phrase (among many) stands out to me EarlG Dec 2023 #26
And Kelce did an ad about getting the covid vaccine. Swede Dec 2023 #27
I am sure a lot of people have seen this SPLC piece Tom of Temecula Dec 2023 #35
My youngest Granddaughters LOVE Taylor Swift ProudMNDemocrat Dec 2023 #28
My 15 and 18 year old granddaughters FalloutShelter Dec 2023 #31
Girlboss psyop???? edisdead Dec 2023 #30
Whiners! Zambero Dec 2023 #33
Did he really say "serious world of politics" getagrip_already Dec 2023 #34
DINK- dual income, no kids . so what is that moran ranting about? niyad Dec 2023 #36
Good article from The Hollywood Reporter Tom of Temecula Dec 2023 #37
These people lonely bird Dec 2023 #38
She's a force right now Johnny2X2X Dec 2023 #39
They're just pissed 'cause Ted Nugent is a has-been..... KY_EnviroGuy Dec 2023 #40
If she writes a song about them it won't be "saccharine bland". I'm sure of that. twodogsbarking Dec 2023 #41
I thought she already did. TSExile Dec 2023 #48
Double Whammy. I'm sure tRumpers wanted Pootin. NT texasfiddler Dec 2023 #42
I'm an old man (75), played in rock bands for most of my life, and I like her and her music world wide wally Dec 2023 #43
Good for her Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2023 #45
Honestly, would they be giving Taylor all this crap... TSExile Dec 2023 #49
Well, there wasn't a boycott of the Dixie Boys Attilatheblond Dec 2023 #52
It was a little tongue in cheek... TSExile Dec 2023 #53
MAGAs versus Swifties Collimator Dec 2023 #50
wekk wah. eeeehh put a sock in it doc. AllaN01Bear Dec 2023 #51
There is nothing that's going to make me love Taylor more Dorian Gray Dec 2023 #55
It all sounds like hot air but you know what they're trying to do JanMichael Dec 2023 #56

Deuxcents

(26,913 posts)
1. The voting registrations at her concerts are the problem.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 02:06 AM
Dec 2023

Getting young people interested by educating them and offering to help register them so they can participate in their right to vote is a big concern for the brainless youth who enjoy Taylor Swift and her music because they might just learn about politics. To top it off, she is now Time’s Person of the Year so the next best thing is to attack her “saccharine bland music”, her boyfriend, and her DINK lifestyle” I’m sure Miss Swift is concerned about these idiots and will no doubt continue to live her life the way she wants and enjoy all their whining.

Lonestarblue

(13,477 posts)
47. Clark probably prefers the culture of the '50s.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 06:02 PM
Dec 2023

Most women, especially white ones, stayed at home having babies and voted how their husbands told them to vote. Black and brown people had few rights and were consigned to menial jobs, and, most importantly, white men ruled the world. Ah, the good old days.

The Roux Comes First

(2,278 posts)
54. Like They Say, "Make America Great Again"!
Fri Dec 8, 2023, 01:11 AM
Dec 2023

Actually I doubt those stay-at-homes often voted, but I'd be intrigued to see data.

dchill

(42,660 posts)
3. "...girlboss psyop has been fully activated."
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 03:14 AM
Dec 2023

Wouldn't it be great if that were true? Kinda seems like it's working on Trump!

Probatim

(3,285 posts)
29. Would be great if that was the title to her next single/album.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 10:00 AM
Dec 2023

A giant eff off to those trolls.

WhiteTara

(31,260 posts)
44. maybe I'll steal it for a column title
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 03:56 PM
Dec 2023

I like the sound of it. I'll leave a potato in return.

lostnfound

(17,520 posts)
6. Dissecting Posobiecs comment is an overview of GOP trigger-point strategy
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 03:58 AM
Dec 2023
From her hand-selected vaccine shill boyfriend to her DINK lifestyle to her upcoming 2024 voter operation for Democrats on abortion rights It’s all coming," Posobiec wrote on Wednesday.


They don’t have a coalition without repeatedly harping on trigger points and then pretending that they all link together.

From her hand-selected vaccine shill boyfriend -> this is WHY they taught so many to be angry and fearful about the vaccine. I have friends ON THE LEFT who listen to the RFK Jr. crap and other anti-vax fear-mongering. It appeals to fear of government mandates — a powerful psychological COMPLEX. I have relatives on the right who were taught to fear it and be angry by circulating right wing propaganda memes.

to her DINK lifestyle —. Your identity is a traditional mom homeschooling several kids and a boring, totally restrictive life style — and you’re proud of who you are because it’s the only way you mentally survive without an ounce of freedom in your days? Like the reacher rails against sinful women and tells you that you were made to make babies as the good lord intended (and don’t resent your husband, be subservient to him, because anything else is too complicated)

to her upcoming 2024 voter operation for Democrats on abortion rights A double whammy — voter OPERATION — THRY STOLE THE ELECTION, THEM VOTERS! Sneaky baby-killers!

“It’s all coming," Posobiec wrote on Wednesday. ALL — IT’S ALL COMING, nefarious voter-plotting baby killing untrapped-women trying to give us the JAB and steal OUR elections!!

When they say YEAH! to one thing, they have them.

Response to Tom of Temecula (Original post)

Old Crank

(7,073 posts)
15. I think Dual income no kids
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 04:38 AM
Dec 2023

Came from the 90s when describing marriages of 2 professional people.

GuppyGal

(1,748 posts)
9. These fucks are always upset about something ...they can shove their pearls straight up their ass. nt
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 04:05 AM
Dec 2023

Cha

(319,067 posts)
12. Bad for magats Good for America
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 04:19 AM
Dec 2023

There's a Wonderful Story about her life in Time Mag where she got Person of the Year!

Roy Rolling

(7,632 posts)
13. Summer or Winter
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 04:28 AM
Dec 2023

Right-wing snowflakes can’t stop snowflaking.

The real irony of their messaging is that it’s all projection. Nobody used the insult “snowflake” until they all got the MAGA talking points, and then showed us by their example.

quakerboy

(14,864 posts)
14. Dual income?
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 04:35 AM
Dec 2023

Pretty sure that the DI part is utterly irrelevant to TSwifts life at this point.

Maybe they are also salty that she actually makes money and is rich, while his finances are about as solid as a bowl of pea ridden Jello.

jcgoldie

(12,046 posts)
23. criticize a woman who makes $200 million a year for having a dual income lifestyle....
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 09:19 AM
Dec 2023

WTF these people are just morons.

Hugin

(37,847 posts)
24. I almost fell out of my chair seeing DINK resurrected!
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 09:25 AM
Dec 2023


Jack, the last millennium is calling for you, Dude!

jcgoldie

(12,046 posts)
32. Who's even the other income?
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 10:23 AM
Dec 2023

Hey Taylor if you quit your job maybe Travis Kelce the vaccine guy will buy you a house, you can have a bunch a kids and stay home and pack their lunches...

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
46. They can't imagine that a woman is wealthy all by herself.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 04:04 PM
Dec 2023

It doesn't compute for them. Her boyfriend MUST be supporting her.

Old Crank

(7,073 posts)
16. Girlboss is also a belittling term
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 04:44 AM
Dec 2023

For female professionals.

Never heard the term 'boyboss' outside of dominatrix circles....

Takket

(23,714 posts)
18. They would have been apoplectic over ANYONE other than drumpf being picked
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 07:08 AM
Dec 2023

IT

IS

A

CULT

they only psyop going on is them using ANY issue as a way to tear down anyone other than drumpf. Everything in their world is about promoting and defending the leader of their cult.

Cosmocat

(15,424 posts)
19. "saccharine bland music and that washing over into the serious world of politic"
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 08:24 AM
Dec 2023

In reality there could not be a more accurate description of country music.

tanyev

(49,288 posts)
21. They can go right ahead and attack Taylor Swift.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 09:08 AM
Dec 2023

I'll just settle in on the couch with a big tub of popcorn and watch how that goes for them.



ificandream

(11,837 posts)
22. Childish namecalling ... that's a tactic of magamania.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 09:09 AM
Dec 2023

They put together obscure word salads (which send fellow magas to the dictionary) in order to get a point across. I hope they have a lot of diapers for all the crybabying they do.

TSExile

(3,363 posts)
25. Taylor uses her fame and wealth for good.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 09:37 AM
Dec 2023

From all accounts, she is generous with her staff, kind to her fans and takes being a role model seriously. It's refreshing. In short, she is everything these bullies are not...and I am here for it!!!

EarlG

(23,631 posts)
26. A lot to unpack there, but one creepy phrase (among many) stands out to me
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 09:50 AM
Dec 2023

and that is Posobiec’s criticism of Swift for having a “hand-selected boyfriend”. What?

A woman? Making choices about who her romantic partner should be? Inconceivable!

Scratch the surface of a Trumper and underneath there’s an incel.

 

Tom of Temecula

(1,632 posts)
35. I am sure a lot of people have seen this SPLC piece
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 10:48 AM
Dec 2023

A couple of years old, but here it is anyway.

SPLC INVESTIGATION: FAR-RIGHT OANN ANCHOR JACK POSOBIEC’S RISE TIED TO WHITE SUPREMACIST MOVEMENT

Far-right commentator Jack Posobiec is a current host on One America News Network (OANN), an information network widely known to distort facts and which has been embraced by President Trump. This investigation has found that Posobiec — a Trump favorite — has collaborated with white supremacists, neo-fascists and antisemites for years, while producing propaganda that Trump and his inner circle have publicly celebrated.

“Jack Posobiec’s extensive ties to white supremacists should serve as a wake-up call for anyone who hasn’t made the connection between Trump’s MAGA movement and hate,” said Michael Edison Hayden, the SPLC senior investigative reporter who uncovered the story about Posobiec and his ties to white supremacy and the White House.

https://www.splcenter.org/splc-investigation-far-right-oann-anchor-jack-posobiecs-rise-tied-white-supremacist-movement

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,896 posts)
28. My youngest Granddaughters LOVE Taylor Swift
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 09:58 AM
Dec 2023

They are almost 11 and 13.

They love her music too. I will do an aside and let them know she stands for GOOD things.

This summer, she did 2 concerts at US Bank Stadium in Minneapolis, I read she made a sizable donation to Channel One Food Bank in Rochester. She also gave her concert staff HUGE bonuses at the end of the US Tour as well.

Taylor Swift will be an EXCELLENT asset to the Democrats as far as young voters are concerned about issues important to them. That has to have MAGAts concerned. So they attack her. I also like her Boyfriend, Travis Kelce.

Zambero

(9,990 posts)
33. Whiners!
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 10:27 AM
Dec 2023

They have a firm lock on Roseanne and Kid Rock. Did I forget to mention Ted "Poopypants" Nugent? What more could they possibly want??



getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
34. Did he really say "serious world of politics"
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 10:28 AM
Dec 2023

With a straight face?

Watch any one tiny campaign speach, any one, and tell me the Republicans are serious people.

Sheesh. I've seen more gravitas in middle school debate clubs than I've seen come out of the gop lately.

Let the swifties have their due. They seem like good people to me.

lonely bird

(2,941 posts)
38. These people
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 01:07 PM
Dec 2023

Ms. Swift’s saccharine bland music? As compared to the crap put out by Ted “Pantload” Nugent?

Jeffrey Clark talking about the serious world of politics? Let’s ask George Anthony Devolder Santos and that.

Johnny2X2X

(24,206 posts)
39. She's a force right now
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 01:16 PM
Dec 2023

She's as big of a pop star as has ever existed. Probably has eclipsed Michael Jackson and is on par with Beatlemania. There is no one in pop culture right now that approaches her influence. Her getting millions of young people to the polls is such a massive X factor that it's hard to quantify. Could she shift the vote by 5 million voters? More?

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,782 posts)
40. They're just pissed 'cause Ted Nugent is a has-been.....
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 01:19 PM
Dec 2023

along with all their other "celebrity" supporters......:

Charlton Heston..................

Chuck Norris..................

Steven Seagal..................

Just to name few.

world wide wally

(21,836 posts)
43. I'm an old man (75), played in rock bands for most of my life, and I like her and her music
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 03:36 PM
Dec 2023

So, there, Magats.

Attilatheblond

(8,876 posts)
52. Well, there wasn't a boycott of the Dixie Boys
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 07:45 PM
Dec 2023

so your point is taken

But I wonder if it has more to do with the fact that she gets young people to register to vote that has them all in a tizzy about her getting more publicity.

TSExile

(3,363 posts)
53. It was a little tongue in cheek...
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 08:12 PM
Dec 2023

...as I was referencing TS's song "The Man". But yeah, I can smell the misogyny from here...not to mention the jealousy!!

Collimator

(2,118 posts)
50. MAGAs versus Swifties
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 07:00 PM
Dec 2023

Who will win?

My money is on the Swifties because they are younger and less likely to stroke out or have heart attacks. Also, I think there are more of them. Their mindsets, attitudes, social views, etc. are in sync with the future, not some glossed over notion of the "good and proper" past.

Also, the object of their devotion at least offers genuine entertainment in exchange for their money. Trump just delivers steady adrenaline doses of outrage to his followers which will eventually lead to those strokes and heart attacks mentioned above. He does enjoy taking their money, though.

And speaking of enjoying things, finding joy in an artist's music has to be more sustainable than sucking on the rotting lemons of victimhood. The MAGA tribe are dinosaurs--big and loud and stompy. They think that they rule the earth, but the comet has already hit the ground on some other part of the world. Their denial won't stop the change that is transforming the world.

Oh, and if the Swifties and the BTS Army and the BeyHive come out against Trump, the guy is done.

Dorian Gray

(13,850 posts)
55. There is nothing that's going to make me love Taylor more
Fri Dec 8, 2023, 06:17 AM
Dec 2023

than the tears of MAGA.

They're just bitter bc at one point they thought she was "one of theirs."

JanMichael

(25,725 posts)
56. It all sounds like hot air but you know what they're trying to do
Fri Dec 8, 2023, 07:35 AM
Dec 2023

Trying to get one of their fuckhead psychopaths all riled up so it goes over the edge and tries to do something about the GirlBoss.

I seriously believe that is the intent of these types of campaigns. I don't think it used to be that way but I think it is now.

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