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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWith The Media Banned, Mike Johnson Thought It Was Safe To Compare Himself To Moses. He Was Wrong.
Speaker Mike Johnson was caught on tape comparing himself to Moses and claimed that he is leading the country through a Red Sea moment. Right Wing Watch reported:
When Johnson took to the stage, he thanked the NACL for banning media from the event, claiming that the media loves to pick my comments out of context.
The Lord impressed upon my heart a few weeks before this happened that something was going to occur, Johnson said. And the Lord very specifically told me in my prayers to prepare, but to wait. ... I had this sense that we were going to come to a Red Sea moment in our Republican conference and in the county at large, he continued. [God] had been speaking to me about this, and the Lord told me very clearly to prepare and be ready.
Only a delusional theocrat could believe that he was put into place by God instead of House Republican ineptitude and desperation. If Mike Johnson was chosen by God to be the Speaker of the House, why did God have to run through 4 other choices first? Was Johnson the last potential speaker at the end of the bench for God? Shouldnt God be better at whipping votes and getting her first choice elected?
It is easy to laugh at Johnson, but he is a dangerous theocrat with alarming views on women. Mike Johnson is second in line to the presidency, and that fact is a clear and present danger to the Republic.
https://www.politicususa.com/2023/12/07/mike-johnson-moses.html
StarryNite
(12,167 posts)EYESORE 9001
(29,880 posts)He absolutely exudes teh creepy. The fact that hes getting lots of exposure now is good, showing the world that this sanctimonious prick has big plans for everyone.
Probatim
(3,298 posts)I don't usually laugh out loud but damn that was great. And 100% accurate.
EYESORE 9001
(29,880 posts)Creeping Jeebus
usaf-vet
(7,853 posts)If he leads based on his interpretation of biblical scripture, indeed, the women in this country are in jeopardy on multiple fronts.
And the rest of us will not be much better off.
KatyaR
(3,640 posts)Nt
Republicans only like women one way:

Of course, it will be even worse for the LGBTQ+ community than for cishet women. I shudder to think what Johnson and his ilk would like to do to them.
ancianita
(43,342 posts)into doing their political will.
People who publicly say they pray and God answers are lying.
Jesus Christians know that Jesus never taught anyone to pray like that.
Barbara Taylor Brown, an Episcopal priest, academic, and author once said,
" Jesus wasn't killed by atheists or anarchy. He was brought down by law and order allied with religion, which is always a deadly mix.
Beware those who claim to know the mind of God and who are prepared to use force, if necessary, to make others conform. Beware those who cannot tell God's will from their own."
alterfurz
(2,682 posts)...when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do." --- Anne Lamott
Initech
(109,251 posts)Fuck him and the people who vote for him!
And yes lurkers, we're talking about Mike Johnson.
dalton99a
(95,216 posts)speak easy
(12,598 posts)Jilly_in_VA
(14,624 posts)But maybe he's Baby Jeebus...or maybe he's Archangel Michael?
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Nixon created the EPA. magats hate that.
Zambero
(10,029 posts)...I am the Lord thy Trump, and thou shalt not have any disloyal RINOS before me.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)
(fun fakery)
eShirl
(20,421 posts)BlueKota
(5,552 posts)even though I am no longer a member. I still am a person of faith though and just don't get why people don't see it as blasphemy that these people are practically worshipping Orange Stalin as the Second Coming of Jesus, and his fellow Republicans as saints? I see it clearly as that.
TSExile
(3,363 posts)I am having problems using the term "Christian", because it has been commandeered by people who act the complete opposite of Christ. I'm just as baffled as you all are about why T**** is so LOVED by people who proclaim faith in Christ. (The book Jesus and John Wayne by Kristin Du Mez did help explain a lot of it, though.)
Praise be to God that my pastors keep their own personal politics out of the pulpit...though I DID clash with them over Issue 1. To their credit, they listened when I told both of them why I would be voting yes. I listened to them when they said why they were voting no. We basically had to agree to disagree on that one.
Walleye
(45,397 posts)redqueen
(115,186 posts)They'll have no issue with it.
Walleye
(45,397 posts)He would be very insulted if you reminded him that hes hearing voices. But thats what he said
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)They never come out and say, "That thing that failed last week -- god criticized me so I'm here to say I was wrong and make reparations."
The behaviour is confirmation-seeking. It's all part of the bubble, whether it is religious or political or science-denying. "I did my research! Online! I found lots of stuff proving I'm right!"
Ocelot II
(131,199 posts)When God speaks to you, that's psychosis.
NoRethugFriends
(3,778 posts)Ocelot II
(131,199 posts)It's often nothing more than a sort of meditation. But when you start thinking God is talking to you personally and telling you things you should be doing or - worse - that you have a special mission, that's where it gets crazy. And have you ever noticed that the messages from God tend to correspond with the things the recipient wants to do anyhow?
Ocelot II
(131,199 posts)It's often nothing more than a sort of meditation. But when you start thinking God is talking to you personally and telling you things you should be doing or - worse - that you have a special mission, that's where it gets crazy. And have you ever noticed that the messages from God tend to correspond with the things the recipient wants to do anyhow?
Walleye
(45,397 posts)Ocelot II
(131,199 posts)LeftInTX
(34,852 posts)PTL_Mancuso
(276 posts)I will allow for the possibility of a hyper-consciousness that might communicate with the occasional hyper-worthy human. But surely not with prevaricating twerps like MJ. Also, to me, he looks too much like a serial-killer accountant. YMMV
Lonestarblue
(13,560 posts)canuckledragger
(1,992 posts)It's as if there is no god and it's only their own egos speaking to them...
Attilatheblond
(9,214 posts)See what happens when insane people are not cared for properly? They end up in politics, cramming their beliefs down everyone's throats.
Frankly, I would like to hook up a PA system, announce that I AM GOD and that I want Mike Johnson to show his true power by taking a long walk off a short pier.
Swede
(40,043 posts)Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and theyre sure trying to do so, its going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they cant and wont compromise. I know, Ive tried to deal with them. November, 1994, quoted by John Dean in his book, Conservatives Without Conscience.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Zambero
(10,029 posts)Freedom FROM religion is one of its tenets. Sadly, largely a thing of the past
Hekate
(100,133 posts)And, I might add, like a certain Liz Cheney.
H2O Man
(79,238 posts)later in his career. But back when he ran for president in '64, he was a loose cannon.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Attilatheblond
(9,214 posts)"... so let's go back to the days
when men were men
and start the First World War
all over again...."
edited to add, there was a more recent update about a different crazy RW pol
PTL_Mancuso
(276 posts)"And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" Barry G., 1964
Hekate
(100,133 posts)byronius
(8,012 posts)Attilatheblond
(9,214 posts)byronius
(8,012 posts)pdxflyboy
(945 posts)Oohhh no.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)RVN VET71
(3,216 posts)Democracy is the Israelites, clearly, walking to the side of freedom. Mikey, that little scabrous nose goblin, is Pharaoh charging after the Dems with his Egyptian horde, only to be engulfed and drowned by the righteous waves of love and justice as as waters of the Lord of Reason close behind the last of the righteous Dems.
There. I think I've fixed it.
AmBlue
(3,460 posts)...please let it be so.
jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)Hey I mean even god doesn't understand what the fuck Matt Gaetz is trying to do...
dalton99a
(95,216 posts)Crappy, sloppy, inefficient
littlemissmartypants
(34,320 posts)You can't be sure of what you're going to get.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Zambero
(10,029 posts)People like Jordan always attend those prayer breakfasts, and being Republicans, their forgiveness cards include unlimited punches. So why did Gymbo not get the blessed calling instead??
LuvLoogie
(8,903 posts)Mike Johnson is blind. He doesn't see us.
Kali
(56,888 posts)no audio from that clip?
redqueen
(115,186 posts)must be this tablet
littlemissmartypants
(34,320 posts)Kali
(56,888 posts)after I cranked it up, but my little tablet had nuthin'
Freethinker65
(11,203 posts)Add it to the picture of charlatan preachers layers their hands on Trump as if he is the Lord himself. Look, in this country, you can believe what you want to believe. But, do you really want these people leading our Nation? Let them lead their congregations of followers that choose to belong...do not let a select few overtake the governing of our country.
redqueen
(115,186 posts)Not sure how many voters are - or how many of those are of the type who would indeed want this brand of lunacy in charge of the country.
ProfessorGAC
(77,248 posts)...there are plenty of religiously observant people who would eye roll folks that claim to have one on one conversations with god
I was raised RC, and the speaking in tongues or prophecy believers were typically tossed into the crazy bin.
Right where Johnson belongs.
redqueen
(115,186 posts)I live in a red area and no one would bat an eye at that kind of talk. It's depressing.
John1956PA
(5,118 posts)To think that a war can be started by such an imaginary conversation is horrifying.
ProfessorGAC
(77,248 posts)One of the crazy sects came to the house one day.
I went ahead & answered the door.
Before they could finish the first sentence, I said "I know who are. God told me you were coming & he said to tell you you've got it all wrong."
They left Like they were shot of a cannon!
Hope22
(4,878 posts)The data also found the amount of Americans identifying as Just Christian has dropped from 21 percent in Oct. 2021 to 18 percent in May 2023. The amount of Americans identifying as Protestant dropped from 26 to 25 percent in the same time period.
redqueen
(115,186 posts)If the irreligious stay home while the religious flock to the polls, that would mean his idiocy won't really cost him anything.
whfinlay
(20 posts)nuxvomica
(14,195 posts)Or is there a third option where they kinda believe it but they are also scamming, ie. scamming for Jesus. Reminds me of the Parable of the Two Trees and Julian Jaynes' theory of the bicameral mind at the same time.
BlueKota
(5,552 posts)into delusional thinking. Like the con artist starts to fall for his own con.
drmeow
(6,017 posts)truly believe that when good things happen to them it is a direct message from God, especially if they prayed for said good thing to happen to them. They conveniently do not believe that when bad things happen to them it is also a message from God. Bad things happening to OTHER people is a message from God but bad things happening to them is not. It is the intersection of cognitive bias (same as the people anti-abortion people who get abortions - THEIR abortion is DIFFERENT - also same as people who try to make a distinction between the "deserving poor" and the "undeserving poor"
combined with the use of religion as a crutch. It is a common characteristic of conservative religious people which liberal religious people seem to be able to avoid.
Paladin
(32,354 posts)LiberalFighter
(53,544 posts)Whoever is the webmaster is an idiot.
Qutzupalotl
(15,854 posts)so let's hope he divides the conference into Trumpers and never-Trumpers, and half stay home in 2024.
LiberalFighter
(53,544 posts)What will be the 10 plagues he is going to drop on America?
What country will he lead his people to?
Will he issue 10 new commandments?
Will he spend forty years wandering in the desert until all of his followers are dead?
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)That it takes about a week to walk across, at its widest.
That's how stupid they all were.
Initech
(109,251 posts)republianmushroom
(22,674 posts)Wow, these republicans do have a lot of nuts and crools in political office.
They due think a lot higher of themselves than most people think of them.
Tanuki
(16,506 posts)flashman13
(2,559 posts)If someone starts to tell you about how they are having conversations with god - turn around and run away as fast as possible.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,604 posts)Mike is a hard-core delusional clown. His delusional thinking is GLOBAL in nature. Everything that happens to him is at the direction of a God whom he thinks is speaking directly to him. In reality, "God" has never worked this way, and the only people who believe otherwise are or were equally delusional. Anyone who is in this "club" cannot fathom the fact that their "God" is decidedly "hands-off" when it comes to human endeavors. You sink or swim on your own, Mikey. It doesn't make a difference what you believe. You are the agent of your own actions.
AllaN01Bear
(29,792 posts)JoseBalow
(9,722 posts)Who first in that line?
Jimvanhise
(602 posts)He talks about things Jesus never mentioned (homosexuality) and never talks about what Jesus stood for, helping the poor and the downtrodden. Republicans want to gut Social Security and Medicare and they are opposed to things like school lunch programs for the poor. Like most Republicans, he is for helping the super rich and corporations.
Zambero
(10,029 posts)While the big enchilada goes to those who need it least. Best to leave it be, however. After all, it's not cool to covet thy neighbor's "goods"!
mysteryowl
(9,350 posts)puke!
brewens
(15,359 posts)Oneironaut
(6,319 posts)His rhetoric is ISIS-level absurdity.
He is the chosen one, on a mission sanctioned by God. He is as powerful and prestigious a character as Moses, therefore deserving of endless worship and loyalty himself. Questioning anything that comes from his mouth is an act no different from questioning God, as, God speaks directly to him.
These people are fucking insane.
Ocelot II
(131,199 posts)until they're all dead.
bahboo
(16,953 posts)Jilly_in_VA
(14,624 posts)Yeah, right. He's crazy. Batshit, even!
Remember this one? "In your guts you know he's nuts;" Barry looks quite sane next to these guys.
Ford_Prefect
(8,663 posts)Last edited Thu Dec 7, 2023, 06:15 PM - Edit history (1)
frequently use their "Faith" to excuse their prejudices and poor judgement.
Mike is a dangerous sociopath hiding under a "Christian" lamb skin.
PTL_Mancuso
(276 posts)It would not take much in the way of a one-in-a-million type accident (like the thousand-year weather events we see weekly) to install him on the holy throne to become our direct line to god (i.e. Baal) without all the Drumpfian distractions.
irisblue
(37,900 posts)According to historians, the NACL is the first formal national association of Christian lawmakers in the history of the United States and it is the only faith based para-legislative organization operating in the country today.
https://christianlawmakers.com
National Association of Christian Lawmakers
tanyev
(49,667 posts)
Pas-de-Calais
(10,295 posts)The Lord spoke to him?
Creepy as fugh
John1956PA
(5,118 posts)czarjak
(13,678 posts)Will not be the last politician to claim Divine Providence.
SWBTATTReg
(26,395 posts)Eh, no. No, Mike we will not follow you across the River Jordan or wherever your voices to telling us to go.
Maybe to an institution where you can get some help, instead of the one you've been going to, and getting brainwashed (obviously).
bluesbassman
(20,388 posts)Go wander around the wilderness for forty years and then get back to us.
brush
(61,033 posts)whether we believe it or not is another thing.
Wonder how he does it...thru a burning bush; or does he send archangel Gabriel down to deliver the message; maybe a lightening bolt...no, no, that's Zues, the Greek king of the gods .
Anyway, it's a little, no, it's a lot hard to believe these evangelicals who claim that God talks to them all the time.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,731 posts)...these phonies probably never even cracked open a bible.
Maybe he compares himself to Charlton Heston. Even the movie Moses gave credit for parting the sea to god: "Behold his mighty hand!"

I've seen that movie a zillion times. John Derek as Joshua....hoo baby!

dlk
(13,337 posts)It is a pathology.
Cha
(320,496 posts)littlemissmartypants
(34,320 posts)TSExile
(3,363 posts)Talk about delusions of grandeur.
flying_wahini
(8,281 posts)A criminal through and through.
Aussie105
(8,164 posts)Seriously dude?
Talking to God is ok I guess, but when he talks back to you, ummm, no, that is one bridge too far for most of us.
I don't have God's cell number but I have his email, and I've emailed him.
Basically, is this bloke telling the truth or is he just talking cow manure?
Let you know when I get a reply.
I might have to wait for an answer though, God is kind of busy with the Middle East and Ukraine - watching, but not interfering.
EDIT: I apologise to any religious people who find the above frivolity offensive.
But Mike claiming he is directly in communication with the Deity and hence has a powerful backer, is an old shyster trick that basically challenges you to prove he is wrong.
Impossible to prove - either way.
My response to anyone who claims to be acting on orders from God, is to ask to see those orders in writing.
In God's handwriting.
Otherwise it doesn't count.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)mwb970
(12,162 posts)Evil monsters acting in the service of an appallingly stupid delusion.
Is it still the Bronze Age on the far right??