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CousinIT

(12,747 posts)
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 04:44 PM Dec 2023

BIL who molested me as a preteen/teen is dying

I feel badly for my dear sister but him...well I'm feeling some kind of way about that. He's a scoundrel who sucked the life out of my sister for 50+ years. I can't afford to go see her as this is happening but her children are there and my older brother will be there (he's retired - I'm not yet).

I have been calling her regularly and will continue to do so, hopefully get a Zoom chat or some such over Xmas.

Her Christmas will be a grim one, but we are all rallying around her, as is her church, which she participates in regularly as she is very religious. She's a good person but is a RWer and bigoted, sexist (ie: abortion etc) as they are. But I do feel for her losing her man of 50+ years. She is not one who likes being alone.

As for him, I don't want him to suffer either. I'd not wish that on anyone. He is getting the drugs needed to pass peacefully with her and his son/daughter around. But, I have no feeling about his passage. Indifference about that abounds, knowing what a scoundrel and bloodsucking vampire he was to her over the years. I know she's heartbroken but she may be better off without him.

I guess I'm a nasty person for that. I do love my sister though she is MAGA, she would be there for me if she could, so from a distance I'm trying to be a moral support for her as I am able.

But that scoundrel of a spouse of hers....just....emotional radio silence. The man is a dirtbag. My sister deserved MUCH BETTER.

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BIL who molested me as a preteen/teen is dying (Original Post) CousinIT Dec 2023 OP
*HUGS* TSExile Dec 2023 #1
Thank you. CousinIT Dec 2023 #3
No... Think. Again. Dec 2023 #18
I am hoping that without his MAGA brainwashing... CousinIT Dec 2023 #27
Heavens. I can really appreciate the conflicted feelings but it sounds like you are trying to hlthe2b Dec 2023 #2
I have learned to live with the fact that.. CousinIT Dec 2023 #7
He should have been prosecuted for statutory rape! Your sister married that POS? Amazing that Ziggysmom Dec 2023 #19
Yes he should have been prosecuted. And I was not his only instance ... CousinIT Dec 2023 #26
I had a nasty brother in law who used to put me and my husband down kimbutgar Dec 2023 #4
Yes I have been trying not to be happy ... CousinIT Dec 2023 #9
ok to be happy about the passing of an abuser MadameButterfly Dec 2023 #14
No, you are not a nasty person. You are human. redqueen Dec 2023 #5
Thank you. Good advice. CousinIT Dec 2023 #10
I'm so sorry. MorbidButterflyTat Dec 2023 #6
my advice? WhiteTara Dec 2023 #8
Hmm....Have a one-person party. CousinIT Dec 2023 #11
Kind of on topic BOSSHOG Dec 2023 #13
That sounds awesome! I hope they do exactly as you said. CousinIT Dec 2023 #25
I don't think you're a nasty person at all. IMO, the fact that you're so reflective petronius Dec 2023 #12
My hat's off to you. pandr32 Dec 2023 #15
You are holding the high ground. Best of luck through the process. Chainfire Dec 2023 #16
"a good person but is a RWer and bigoted, sexist" JoseBalow Dec 2023 #17
She is kind and giving to her family (most of the time) CousinIT Dec 2023 #22
My wife spent time this summer with her dying father, who had sexually.... 70sEraVet Dec 2023 #20
Wow. It is sad to see them sick, old and feeble.. CousinIT Dec 2023 #23
You sound like a . . . people Dec 2023 #21
I wish they thought so! CousinIT Dec 2023 #24
I'm so sorry for your sense of loss...... essaynnc Dec 2023 #28
My God, you are a wonderful person... Joinfortmill Dec 2023 #29
You are not a "nasty person". LoisB Dec 2023 #30
Loving your sister despite her MAGA politics shows you're a better person Warpy Dec 2023 #31
There's nothing bad about calling out people for exactly what they are canuckledragger Dec 2023 #32
I don't blame you. I have alcoholics in my family too and would not tolerate that CousinIT Dec 2023 #34
My sister and I didn't mourn, we felt relief. ArkansasDemocrat1 Dec 2023 #33
The pedophile is gone CousinIT Dec 2023 #35
His time has come. Goddessartist Dec 2023 #36
I plan to. CousinIT Dec 2023 #37
Yay! Goddessartist Dec 2023 #38
Huggggs. You are not a nasty person. Your feelings, or lack thereof, are yours, niyad Dec 2023 #39
I am disappointed she married that shit CousinIT Dec 2023 #40

CousinIT

(12,747 posts)
3. Thank you.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 04:50 PM
Dec 2023
I'm quite OK. My sister...I dunno. What saddens me is that she deserved better and now her best years are gone.
 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
18. No...
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 06:26 PM
Dec 2023

...it sounds like maybe, with your guidance, better days for her may still be ahead?

CousinIT

(12,747 posts)
27. I am hoping that without his MAGA brainwashing...
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 06:58 PM
Dec 2023

…she’ll use her own common sense and some changes may result. Hope springs eternal!

hlthe2b

(114,683 posts)
2. Heavens. I can really appreciate the conflicted feelings but it sounds like you are trying to
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 04:49 PM
Dec 2023

do what you can for your sister, despite all that has happened. Not sure what else anyone could ask of you. I do hope that you can be at peace also, once he is gone.

CousinIT

(12,747 posts)
7. I have learned to live with the fact that..
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 04:54 PM
Dec 2023

...she didn't believe me when I told her what he was doing (actually my Mom told her as she was mad as hell when she found out). My sister of course asked him and he denied it. She chose to believe him. Jesus, I was 9 - 13 damn years old. I had no idea for several of those years what sex even was or why this man was doing what he was - but I did know it was wrong and I felt shameful and dirty.

That - that will never be resolved. She is who she is and he is what he is/was. Speaking of which, I deserved better from my sister too and we both deserved better from that monumental useless turd she married.

But...whatever.

Ziggysmom

(4,157 posts)
19. He should have been prosecuted for statutory rape! Your sister married that POS? Amazing that
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 06:41 PM
Dec 2023

you even speak to her, after she sided with him and did not believe you. I'm an only child and have no idea how sisterhood works, but I know if I were you, I would definitely piss on his grave after he goes.

CousinIT

(12,747 posts)
26. Yes he should have been prosecuted. And I was not his only instance ...
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 06:56 PM
Dec 2023

..he was caught with other underage girls and put moves on adult female family friends as well. As I said, a scoundrel - a rat. She could have done so much better. In a few ways.

kimbutgar

(27,558 posts)
4. I had a nasty brother in law who used to put me and my husband down
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 04:50 PM
Dec 2023

The last time I ever spoke to him was 2013 when he called my autistic son retarded. He was there the day he was born and when he said this to me I said that it with me and him. I still spoke to my sister until he died in 2017 when I came over after he died to comfort her and saw him dead. Inside I was so happy!

So don’t feel bad but be there for your sister when he dies. And feel good he is burning in hell for what he did to you!

CousinIT

(12,747 posts)
9. Yes I have been trying not to be happy ...
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 04:56 PM
Dec 2023

...about his demise - and mostly I'm sad for her but there are moments.

MadameButterfly

(4,157 posts)
14. ok to be happy about the passing of an abuser
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 05:20 PM
Dec 2023

You have no repsonsiblility to be noble here. While your sister may mourn, he wasn't good for her and she couldn't let go. Now she is free. i'm glad she survived him and has a chance to be her real self without his influence.

redqueen

(115,186 posts)
5. No, you are not a nasty person. You are human.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 04:52 PM
Dec 2023

You don't need to feel anything about his passing. It happens to us all, it's simply a part of life. Focus on your sister. If it were me I would try to just forget about him.

WhiteTara

(31,279 posts)
8. my advice?
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 04:56 PM
Dec 2023

Find some great dance music and turn it way up and dance like no one is watching.

CousinIT

(12,747 posts)
11. Hmm....Have a one-person party.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 04:58 PM
Dec 2023

That may be the ticket! Disturb the neighbors. BooYa the bastard is dead!

BOSSHOG

(44,738 posts)
13. Kind of on topic
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 05:07 PM
Dec 2023

In my will, I’ve allocated money for a family barbecue, nothing but loud Jimmy Buffet music, lots of dancing and lots of lies about me. I don’t think this will happen soon. I’m kinda old but kinda healthy. Best I know, no one in the family has had a problem with me. Be happy I was here, not sad cause I’m gone. And don’t dare go near a church relative to my death. Hug a friend. Hug a stranger.

CousinIT

(12,747 posts)
25. That sounds awesome! I hope they do exactly as you said.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 06:54 PM
Dec 2023

Would be a celebration of your life, as it should be!

petronius

(26,700 posts)
12. I don't think you're a nasty person at all. IMO, the fact that you're so reflective
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 05:05 PM
Dec 2023

and conflicted about this makes you a better person than most...

pandr32

(14,307 posts)
15. My hat's off to you.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 05:26 PM
Dec 2023

It would be a difficult task to remain supportive and reverent under the circumstances you spoke of.
Perhaps your sister will appreciate your support and concern for her.
Hugs to you.

JoseBalow

(9,741 posts)
17. "a good person but is a RWer and bigoted, sexist"
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 06:24 PM
Dec 2023

I am unable to reconcile this contradiction

CousinIT

(12,747 posts)
22. She is kind and giving to her family (most of the time)
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 06:50 PM
Dec 2023

But she has the hate/ignorance issues against LGBTQ, black people, abortion, etc. Sometimes inconsiderately so (against me the only Dem left in the family).

70sEraVet

(5,616 posts)
20. My wife spent time this summer with her dying father, who had sexually....
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 06:42 PM
Dec 2023

abused her throughout her childhood.
She's a tough woman, in her way.

CousinIT

(12,747 posts)
23. Wow. It is sad to see them sick, old and feeble..
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 06:51 PM
Dec 2023

…..even if they were shits earlier in life. It’s a detached sadness yet indifference that happens (at least for me) - no love is there.

essaynnc

(993 posts)
28. I'm so sorry for your sense of loss......
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 06:59 PM
Dec 2023

And I really understand your mixed emotions.

Fortunately, it's not your responsibility to care for or even mourn the death of someone who has wronged you so badly.

If you continue to support your sister, and you stand with her in her time of sadness, loss, and need, you are by far a better man than your BIL.

Stay strong.

Joinfortmill

(21,668 posts)
29. My God, you are a wonderful person...
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 07:04 PM
Dec 2023

Especially, under the circumstances. Much better than I would be, that's for damn sure

LoisB

(13,483 posts)
30. You are not a "nasty person".
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 07:06 PM
Dec 2023

I don't see any rule that says you must have sympathy for someone who violated you and who it sounds like was not a very nice person to your sister because that person is dying. Support your sister and don't give him another thought.
Just my humble opinion.

Warpy

(114,671 posts)
31. Loving your sister despite her MAGA politics shows you're a better person
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 07:12 PM
Dec 2023

than you think you are and a better one than a lot of my cousins who haven't spoken to the 2 MAGAs the family produced (out of 22 of us, 20 are Democrats) in years.

It's understandable and perfectly normal to feel relief that he's finally no longer a risk to you or anyone else. Mourning him is not your job.

Your sister has a 50% chance of either blossoming or withering away. She's going to need support starting a few weeks after he does the world a favor and goes on to his appropriate reward. Everybody will be gone, there will be no more plans to make, and she'll be trying to figure out the rest of her life without him. That's when she'll need laughs and maybe chocolate.

 

canuckledragger

(1,992 posts)
32. There's nothing bad about calling out people for exactly what they are
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 07:34 PM
Dec 2023

...based on their own words and actions.

NOT acknowledging what they are after they've proved it is what causes a lot of the trouble.

My family is nothing but a bunch of alcoholics/addicts and their enablers, and I was their scapegoat for when consequences came their way. I cut them out if my life long ago. They proved to me long ago what they are, and will never change, I'll never be an actual member of the family to them let alone a human being.

Mentally, financially, emotionally, etc, I'm all the better for NOT having them in my life, and not acknowledging what they are is what causes so much trouble for me in the first place. Let them pout if they can't handle truth and accountability.

/Rant off.

CousinIT

(12,747 posts)
34. I don't blame you. I have alcoholics in my family too and would not tolerate that
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 07:44 PM
Dec 2023

I may end up cutting myself off from the lot of them anyway because they are all MAGA except me. Earlier this year, I let them have it over family chats where all they did was try to get a reaction out of me by talking politics. Told them to cut it out or else I’d cut them out. My Mom had recently died - she was a Dem and the only one left. That left me with a passel of MAGA bullies. Until I laid down the law. They talk their politics in another separate chat and leave me out of it. It worked. So far. Things have been civil since. My alcoholic brother can’t help himself at times but I won’t engage his white male superiority complex. He thinks everybody but himself is an idiot - especially females - and that his political & other opinions are something that everybody else must hear and know - because they are superior (in his mind).

So…I feel you there!

If all this means I die alone rotting in my house by myself then so be it. Are we to live lives suffering with assholes so we won’t die alone? I don’t think so.

CousinIT

(12,747 posts)
37. I plan to.
Fri Dec 8, 2023, 10:23 AM
Dec 2023

I will call my grieving sister but secretly, I'll be church lady dancing all damn day.

niyad

(134,034 posts)
39. Huggggs. You are not a nasty person. Your feelings, or lack thereof, are yours,
Fri Dec 8, 2023, 10:36 AM
Dec 2023

and you do not have to account for, or explain them to, anybody. The fact that you are so concerned for your sister shows what a good and caring person you are.

CousinIT

(12,747 posts)
40. I am disappointed she married that shit
Fri Dec 8, 2023, 11:58 AM
Dec 2023

She should have known better. But even as he lived like a king and she did all the work in that relationship/family, I had to remind myself that she CHOSE that. Ugh.

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