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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 07:53 PM Dec 2023

RFK Jr. admits he twice flew on Jeffrey Epstein's jet, late wife had 'relationship' with Ghislaine Maxwell

Presidential contender Robert F. Kennedy Jr. admitted Tuesday he flew on late pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s private jet twice, not just once as he previously claimed — and that his then-wife had a “relationship” with madam Ghislaine Maxwell.

The independent candidate opened up about his ties to the notorious perv after being asked by Fox News’ Jesse Watters during a discussion of his ethics.

“I was on Jeffrey Epstein’s jet two times,” Kennedy said of the plane widely dubbed the “Lolita Express” due to its use for taking girls to the disgraced moneyman’s private island.

“I was on it in 1993 and I was on it in — and I went to Florida with my wife and two children to visit my mom over Easter,” the 69-year-old added, referring to his late ex-wife, Mary Richardson Kennedy, who died by suicide in 2012.

https://nypost.com/2023/12/06/news/rfk-jr-admits-he-flew-on-jeffrey-epsteins-jet-twice/
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Rafi

(281 posts)
1. I didn't know his first wife killed herself. Most people that are in a truly happy marriage don't commit suicide.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 08:46 PM
Dec 2023

Not that is doesn't happen, but I would think having a partner you love and loves you reduces the chances. And most unhappy marriages don't end in suicide, but it would certainly affect your state of mind.

TheProle

(3,980 posts)
3. She was his 2nd
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 08:49 PM
Dec 2023

And had substance abuse issues. I’d caution in general about armchair analysis of suicide.

Rafi

(281 posts)
10. I have a masters degree in counseling and I made a kind of general statement. I did not offer an analysis of suicide.
Fri Dec 8, 2023, 03:25 PM
Dec 2023

Scold much?

TheProle

(3,980 posts)
12. Not scolding; just an observation.
Fri Dec 8, 2023, 04:12 PM
Dec 2023

But congratulations on your academic accomplishments.



Rafi

(281 posts)
14. I made an observation as well, not an analysis. I will stand by my "guess" that happy marriages suffers less suicides
Fri Dec 8, 2023, 08:17 PM
Dec 2023

than unhappy ones. Of course it is not true in every case, but if you think I'm wrong make a case.

TheProle

(3,980 posts)
16. I'm not going to argue about it.
Fri Dec 8, 2023, 08:47 PM
Dec 2023

My experience with suicides has colored my views, but I hold no Psychology credential. But if I did, I suspect I would not find that “happy marriages” or “happiness” in general has any kind of singular, one size fits all definition.

By way of alternate cases, though, see downthread for instances of suicide driven by illness.

I have nothing further to say to you on this particular subject and just appreciate that you are not counseling anyone I know or love.

Have a great weekend.

Rafi

(281 posts)
17. Very, very little has one size fits all in human emotions.
Sat Dec 9, 2023, 01:10 AM
Dec 2023

Aren't you the cute one though. Trying to take a shot at me professionally, even though I am not doing any counseling. But, if I was I would say you need to look inward just a bit. And if I was counseling anyone you were close to I would... well that is better left unsaid.

Have a great weekend indeed.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
13. I would have said the same thing, not scolding either, just sayin'
Fri Dec 8, 2023, 04:23 PM
Dec 2023

A friend of mine had what she thought was a normal happy marriage with a husband and two young sons, right up until the kids found him hanging in the garage.

Some years later a man at church thought a good introductory line was to say to her that she didn’t look like the kind of woman who would drive a man to suicide. I think she turned and ran — in any case, she was shaking when she told me about it.

So — who knows the secrets of the human heart.

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Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
11. This is eye-opening...
Fri Dec 8, 2023, 03:32 PM
Dec 2023

The book is from 2015:

A new book claims Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was a serial cheater who proposed to second wife Mary Richardson while still married to first wife Emily Black, and later allegedly encouraged Mary to commit suicide.

In the book RFK Jr.: Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and the Dark Side of the Dream, excerpted in the Daily Mail, author Jerry Oppenheimer writes that the son of the late Bobby Kennedy has a dark and troubling history with women, predating his three marriages.

“Any woman who gets involved with Bobby does so with her eyes open, or their brains lopped off,” a longtime friend of the successful environmental lawyer and activist warns in the book.


https://people.com/books/robert-kennedy-jrs-troubled-marriages-detailed-in-new-book/

struggle4progress

(126,147 posts)
5. Husband of a dear friend of mine suddenly and unexpectedly killed himself years ago:
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 09:01 PM
Dec 2023

autopsy then revealed an unsuspected pituitary tumor

a kennedy

(35,971 posts)
15. and damn, he could NEVER be the orange piece of shit's VP could he??
Fri Dec 8, 2023, 08:32 PM
Dec 2023

OMGAWD……..what a history between the two eh??

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