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Nanjeanne

(6,589 posts)
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 01:03 PM Dec 2023

Netanyahu Must Be Politically Destroyed, or Israel Will Go Down With Him

From Haaretz by Alon Pinkus:

That Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu hasn't resigned yet is an affront to decency. That not one member of his governing coalition of sycophants hasn't demanded that he do so – or done so themselves – is scientific proof that invertebrates can form a government. It is a sad group profile in cowardice.

Netanyahu's casual refusal to even consider the possibility is a cynical repudiation of integrity, and a callous disregard for the fundamental tenets of accountability and responsibility. More than anything, it is an insult to the Israeli public's intelligence. This nation deserves better. His arrogant, smirking promise that "all will be investigated after the war" is a typical yet no less revolting lie meant to stall, delay and deceive.

I know I've written this several times already, as did many others, but it bears repeating. It is like Cato the Elder said in the Roman Senate prior to the Third Punic War in the second century B.C.E.: Carthago delenda est (Carthage must be destroyed) – an abridged version of a sentence he used at the end of all his speeches.

Yes, we know that accountability and responsibility are alien terms to the Israeli premier. They have been alien to him all his political life, so no surprise there. Yes, we know that it's not in his political DNA. Yes, we know it's driven not just by character but by a toxic cocktail of his political vulnerabilities, the ongoing corruption trial and his delusions of grandeur that he is some historical figure placed by providence to save Israel and Western civilization from Islamo-fascism, and can't be bothered with earthly notions of failure and accountability.

Yes, we know he has no core ethics and values, and no moral compass, otherwise he would not have stood for election four times between 2019 and 2021 under criminal indictments. Yet still it is worth reiterating: Netanyahu Delenda est. Netanyahu must be politically destroyed, otherwise Israel will go down with him.

His responsibility for the October 7 debacle, the worst day in Israel's history, has been and will increasingly be dealt with extensively. The same applies for his management of the war, which was hitched to his political survival.


Read the whole article here to see Pinkus' descriptions of all of Netanyahu's foreign policy failures. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-12-10/ty-article/.premium/netanyahu-must-be-politically-destroyed-or-israel-will-go-down-with-him/0000018c-530f-db23-ad9f-7bdfeca10000]

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Walleye

(44,807 posts)
3. And the US, specifically Joe Biden, is getting blamed for Bibi's war crimes
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 01:16 PM
Dec 2023

I think he wants Biden to fail as much as our own right wing does

Nanjeanne

(6,589 posts)
4. He's been a supporter of Trump so it wouldn't surprise me at all. Although when Bibi was against Pres Obama's
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 01:18 PM
Dec 2023

deal with Iran, Biden was against Obama speaking out against Isreal and Bibi. One time Pres. Obama didn't agree with Biden and did speak out.

agingdem

(8,849 posts)
5. such bullshit!!
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 01:20 PM
Dec 2023

Israel will survive and thrive with or without Bibi... from the very moment the United Nations said yes to the establishment of the State of Israel, the Arab world coalesced: refuse to acknowledge Israel's right to exist ("From the River to the Sea"..) ...and yet, 75 years and many scars later, Israel survives as the lone democracy in the Middle East and is forever a safe haven for the world's Jews...

Nanjeanne

(6,589 posts)
7. By all means let him know how you feel.
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 01:26 PM
Dec 2023

Graduated summa cum laude in political science from Hebrew University. After his bachelor's he went straight to the United States to do his master's, and he graduated cum laude from Georgetown University with degree in Government and Politics.

Served as Chief of Staff to Shlomo Ben-Ami and David Levy (Ministers of Foreign Affairs). He was a foreign policy advisor for Ehud Barak and political advisor to Shimon Peres. From 2000 to 2004, Pinkas served as Consul General of Israel in New York City.

I'm sure you can give him some good insights into why his point of view is bullshit.

agingdem

(8,849 posts)
8. The guy hates Bibi as does everyone else...
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 01:33 PM
Dec 2023

and he is entitled to his hyperbolic "learned" opinion, ...I lived in Israel for years...I know the people, I have family in Israel...Bibi and his far right coalition is an aberration..Israel has survived multiple wars, a president assassinated, and violent anti-semitism..Bibi will either resign or lose in the next election but Israel will continue to thrive...

Nanjeanne

(6,589 posts)
10. I'm so impressed you were able to read the entire article in the 5 minutes since I had
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 01:52 PM
Dec 2023

posted it. And were able to absorb so much of the foreign policy issues he discussed in detail. Perhaps a discussion of those would be actually fun to have. I love differing points of view based on knowledge.

But more than likely I think you just responded to a headline (and one that can be fairly called hyperbolic as headlines usually are to get someone to read further). I get in this day of sound bites and Twitter it’s hard to actually absorb information. But I’d love to hear what exactly he is saying in the article that you have a differing opinion on. That’s a discussion worth having.

lostnfound

(17,520 posts)
15. Exactly. Israel is gonna do Israel but this issue is killing us with young people especially nt
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 01:04 PM
Dec 2023

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
16. Biden has lost a lot of support in Michigan. I doubt he will win that state this time
Mon Dec 11, 2023, 01:39 PM
Dec 2023

Trump is ahead there and in Georgia.

LuvLoogie

(8,815 posts)
9. Israel's long term survival depends on rebuilding Gaza and ending the annexation of the West Bank.
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 01:52 PM
Dec 2023

That won't happen with Netanyahu in charge. The question is, whether Israelis dump Netanyahu but go forward with his policies, or change and enact restitution for the Palestinian people. Unless they choose the latter, Israel is doomed.

The Right in this country is poised to cut Putin loose in Europe. They want an ethnic cleansing of the globe. America has to choose as well. The cease fire must be enacted. The IDF and Netanyahu knew.

Igel

(37,535 posts)
12. What about the others in the unity "war cabinet"?
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 07:27 PM
Dec 2023

Or are they held hostage in a tunnel under the Old City?

WarGamer

(18,613 posts)
13. Big K&R for the Cato the Elder quote... and I'll double down with a Scipio quote as Carthage burned
Sun Dec 10, 2023, 07:44 PM
Dec 2023
"A glorious moment, Polybiius; but I have a dread foreboding that some day the same doom will be pronounced on my own country." Scipio then quoted a line from Homer: "A day will come when sacred Troy shall perish, And Priam and his people shall be slain."
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