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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums#SCOTUS has *granted* Jack Smith's motion to expedite the petition for certiorari before judgment
This makes me smile
Link to tweet

bluestarone
(22,178 posts)They have witnessed EVERYTHING this TRAITOR has done many times over? THIS is bullshit.
gab13by13
(32,321 posts)Not a lawyer but this sounds like legal procedure.
bluestarone
(22,178 posts)I've just had enough of TFG!
Sal_NV
(606 posts)This is going to be interesting, I think D. Trump is going to get the proverbial ass kicking.
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,858 posts)Courts have to give both parties the right to file a brief or response
bluestarone
(22,178 posts)I've had way more than i can stand of TFG!!
Ms. Toad
(38,637 posts)jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)On the bright side, it allows Trump to bury himself and makes the neo cons on the USSC have to lie in the public venue should they rule against logic and the will of the people.
I wonder, are the justices armed with conventional weapons? The internecene type arguments could get rambunctious.
paleotn
(22,214 posts)He has a right to respond, as do we all.
COL Mustard
(8,218 posts)At least for now. If the Supreme Court decides that TFG has immunity from prosecution, then we are no longer a Nation of laws. Its that serious.
lindysalsagal
(22,915 posts)gab13by13
(32,321 posts)Trump has to respond by the 20th.
hlthe2b
(113,965 posts)they very likely DO want to see this trial before the election... I do not think that is a stretch.
gab13by13
(32,321 posts)Also, No way will they give a president immunity.
I think.😘
claudette
(5,455 posts)a glimmer of hope. Since Dump views the Supremes as HIS court he probably won't object to them deciding now.
malaise
(296,101 posts)It took sixteen days
Argued: July 08, 1974
Decided: July 24, 1974
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-supreme-court/418/683.html
Sal_NV
(606 posts)all of his appeals to the SC during his false accusations of stolen/fraudulent election were denied and that's probably going to happen again.
Justice matters.
(9,787 posts)dicktraitor on day one if he wins the EC, thus threatening their own powers to become irrelevant forever...
They may be corrupt (the rw ones) but they're not stupid... they won't render themselves to the bin of History to save that creepy criminal's ass. They know what he's done and why he's seeking a second term to shield himself from going to prison for life.
wally baby
(19 posts)SCOTUS rules in favor of TFG, won't that give Joe Biden authority to do whatever the hell he wants? Declare martial law without reason, challenge the election, run roughshod over the constitution?
alwaysinasnit
(5,624 posts)Sailingdiver
(365 posts)alwaysinasnit
(5,624 posts)Maeve
(43,456 posts)Jarqui
(10,909 posts)I cannot imagine SCOTUS concluding the President is above the law.
That would diminish everything SCOTUS stands for
Chainfire
(17,757 posts)claudette
(5,455 posts)make President Biden invincible !!!🤤👍
Wednesdays
(22,602 posts)and say that their ruling applies ONLY to this one case!
Skittles
(171,710 posts)the majority are HACKS
malaise
(296,101 posts)RFN!
gab13by13
(32,321 posts)👀🥂
malaise
(296,101 posts)Its Smithmas😀😀
bdamomma
(69,532 posts)malaise
malaise
(296,101 posts)Been singing it since the 60s long before 8 saw snow😀
madinmaryland
(65,729 posts)malaise
(296,101 posts)madinmaryland
(65,729 posts)malaise
(296,101 posts)way back when😀
Prairie Gates
(8,156 posts)This throws a wrench into his nonsense, fa sho.
C_U_L8R
(49,384 posts)Donald may want to stay home for this one too.
malaise
(296,101 posts)Hes right not to show up for the debates.
Down he goes
dalton99a
(94,115 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(179,858 posts)It was a fun case but it took over 5 years to go through court of appeals and then to Texas Supreme Court where the other side had seven law firms on the filing to the Texas Supreme Court
This speed surprised me and made me smile
paleotn
(22,214 posts)That will make someone shit their diapers. Or throw more ketchup.
MOMFUDSKI
(7,080 posts)Now comes Jack daring them to fuck this case against orange clown up. He is playing chess with the SC. Once he gets the lay of the land he will know how to proceed or not. He wants their FINAL ANSWER. And he wants it pretty much now.
gab13by13
(32,321 posts)I think that Roberts maybe trying to save his legacy? His court is taking a beating.
msfiddlestix
(8,178 posts)rec'n your post
MLAA
(19,745 posts)MyOwnPeace
(17,555 posts)would pretty much call it a game. He's been hiding behind "I AM THE PRESIDENT" for every one of his cases/charges. The Supremes ruling against him on this simply blows him out of the water and lets the hammer of justice fall on his fat f**king orange head!
MLAA
(19,745 posts)tanyev
(49,294 posts)Bev54
(13,431 posts)malaise
(296,101 posts)gab13by13
(32,321 posts)To some of the contributing msnbc judges and prosecutors.
malaise
(296,101 posts)Now
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,858 posts)littlemissmartypants
(33,585 posts)Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Reply #33)
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Mordred
(231 posts)that the only absolute immunity in the US belongs to the Supreme Court itself and no one else.
ecstatic
(35,075 posts)They are the only kings here. Actually, I think they view themselves as Gods now.
msfiddlestix
(8,178 posts)J_William_Ryan
(3,496 posts)This current Court has exhibited contempt for settled, accepted precedent.
Count me among the pessimists who believe this corrupt, partisan Court will do the wrong thing again.
gab13by13
(32,321 posts)Vance and Katyal, 2 of my favorites.
usonian
(25,319 posts)So, he cant order an orb and sceptre?
No divine right or presidents?
What a shame.
So, I looked up orb and sceptre and DuckDuckGo gave me these results.

Ive got to reinvent this crap internet.
JustTooMuch
(47 posts)In my opinion, for what its worth, the repub appointees of the SC are beholden to the federalist society. Major donor of this group is Koch. They are backing a Nikki Haley bid for the presidency. The former fool is toast.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(179,858 posts)malaise
(296,101 posts)Down he goes
mike_c
(37,051 posts)...for a jury trial are going to find themselves arguing before the SCOTUS? I'd buy a ticket to watch that!
former9thward
(33,424 posts)From the Judge himself:
On Oct. 11, Following the initial publication of this fact check, Engoron addressed this issue from the bench, saying that "it would not have helped to make a motion" and that "nobody forgot to check off a box."
https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/10/03/trumps-lawyers-forget-check-box/
AverageOldGuy
(3,835 posts)-- Smith filed asking the court to decide whether or not Trump has immunity.
-- SCOTUS -- within minutes -- accepted Smith's filing and gave Trump's lawyers 48 hours to respond.
So, seems to me as though SCOTUS is ready to get this decided.
As I understand it, SCOTUS will have both parties' written arguments in hand after Trump responds Wednesday. Then, SCOTUS could; (1) study the filings, hold a hearing with oral arguments, discuss the matter among themselves, and issue a ruling sometime before the end of the term, Oct 2024; OR,
(2) study the filings and issue a ruling immediately with or without a hearing; OR,
(3) some combination of (1) and (2).
I'm going out on a limb here and predicting SCOTUS will slap the shit out of Trump in a matter of days, likely without even oral arguments.
And how will Trump react when one, two, or all three justices he appointed turn him down?
I'm loading up on popcorn and champagne.
intheflow
(30,179 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(179,858 posts)gab13by13
(32,321 posts)The end of Jan. Judge Engeron will have calculated Trumps financial damages.
I believe E. Jean Carrols 2nd lawsuit is upcoming.
Judge Chutkan is sending out notices to potential jurors.
iluvtennis
(21,497 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(179,858 posts)This makes me smile
https://www.forbes.com/sites/anafaguy/2023/12/11/supreme-court-will-consider-taking-up-trumps-immunity-claims-in-jan-6-criminal-case/?sh=e5b87357bbec
Its unclear whenor whetherthe high court will weigh in on the immunity question, but the justices agreed to fast-track the process of deciding whether to take up the case in a brief one-page order issued Monday evening.
The former president has until Dec. 20 at 4 p.m. ET to respond to the request filed Monday by Special Counsel Jack Smith, who asked the Supreme Court to consider Trumps immunity before the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals rules.
Smith asked the Supreme Court if a president is absolutely immune from prosecution in federal court for crimes committed while in office, or if presidents are sheltered from prosecution if he has been impeached but not convicted before the criminal proceedings begin.
marble falls
(71,926 posts)3Hotdogs
(15,368 posts)now, or wait for it to drag out through the lower courts.
gab13by13
(32,321 posts)Torchlight
(6,830 posts)Jack Smith: Bishop 1.e4 e5 2.Bc4.
One day, Trump might even learn to spell the name of the league he's pretending to play in.
flashman13
(2,403 posts)and stop Trump from trying to freeze the process with endless litigation of his delusional, non-ending, all-encompassing, never ending, presidential immunity. The court could simply have turned away Smith's filing and Trump would have won his point by default.
I think the truth is that Trump's three appointees, now bullet proof with a life time appointment, don't owe Trump or his people anything. The "originalists" can step up, show how impartial they are, and fail to find any special immunity for ex-presidents. Smith wins. The trial stays on time line.
spanone
(141,609 posts)reACTIONary
(7,162 posts)... If I understand correctly, they have only decided to DECIDE if they will take up the appeal. The have NOT yet granted expedited appeal.
I guess that's better than a flat out no.
gab13by13
(32,321 posts)What reasons can Trump lawyers come up with to change their minds?
edhopper
(37,370 posts)What if they are expediting to grant him immunity?
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,858 posts)A normal appeal could stretched this case out a couple of years. It took the DC circuit a year to rule on the civil liability issue
reACTIONary
(7,162 posts)... They voted to hear reasons why they should or should not expedite the appeal. After they hear the arguments they will decide whether or not to expedite the appeal. Smith did not win, he just didn't lose right away.
https://wapo.st/3TmRwVY
The decision by the nations highest court doesnt mean that the justices will definitely short-circuit the typical appeals process, but it means they are going to hear arguments from both sides about whether they should act quickly. Trumps lawyers were told to file briefs on the issue by Dec. 20.
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,858 posts)intrepidity
(8,582 posts)let's hope they don't pull a Bush v. Gore and carve out an exception for tfg, ensuring Biden doesn't try the same (as if he ever would).
I don't trust SCOTUS at all.
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,858 posts)TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)but am not counting the chickens until they hatch at all.
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,858 posts)jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)For so long as there is any opportunity that the momentum of public opinion could be distracted from the truth about relative proportions of portent, there is danger. For example, at present the cretins have an open mic to repeat their blurred Hunter Biden foolishness ad nauseum. In the propaganda business, such little bits of smoke are the stuff of overwhelming conflagration. Some of the arsonists' noise would already be silenced if the judicial system had chosen to forego some of its anal-retentive tendencies in favor of a reasonable expedience to process and progress. For instance: Why is Mike Flynn not in prison at this time? Or the yahoo, Mr. Stone, with Nixon tattooed on his back? Why aren't there reports of on-going investigations about the rumored tours of the capitol given to suspicious visitors by suspicious officials (nee saboteurs) prior to 1/6, when tours were officially not sanctioned? Why is there still cover for the Gym Jordans in Congress to skulk and plot behind, touting the existence of dubious polling which shows Trump equal in voter's favor to Biden.
But mostly the question is, why is Trump noisily continuing to perform his treason routine in public when the performance of critical systems for national security requires his silence? It would be more sensical if, perhaps, he was behind bars, awaiting trial. This "great event" we're celebrating here is only necessary because the system is so warped the USSC must be asked to admit insurrection is a crime now so as to make them less credible then, when they renege, as they are wont to do, and deny the truth of that critical observation.


