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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf you're in line at this new In-N-Out restaurant, then you forfeit the right to complain about inflation
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WhiskeyGrinder
(26,955 posts)Yavin4
(37,182 posts)If you're willing to spend money and time to buy In-N-Out burger then you really are not that concerned about prices. So, you should stop complaining about a problem that you're directly contributing to.
Johnny2X2X
(24,207 posts)Over the last 12 months, the latest inflation data shows a 1.7% increase in store bought food, and a 5.2% increase in restaurant prices.
So food is barely going up at the store, but people are still eating out.
We're in a situation right now where wages have been rising faster than prices for several months, but people think back to 8 or 9% inflation when this wasn;t the case and forget that yes, we did have 9% inflation for a time, but during that time, wages were rising at like 5 and 6%. So yes, we were falling behind due to global inflation, but it wasn't like people weren't getting more money to offset a lot of it.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,955 posts)that I'm really not that concerned about prices, too, and shouldn't complain?
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)you don't have a right to complain about inflation.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,955 posts)Nonsense post is nonsense.
maxrandb
(17,426 posts)3.18 a pound today at LIDL, and I can get 2-12 link packages of breakfast sausage at 2 for $4.
I guess they have Kobi pigs now.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,955 posts)W_HAMILTON
(10,333 posts)As long as people continue to pay higher prices for very much not necessary items like fast food, then for-profit corporations will gladly continue to raise their prices and build upon their already record-breaking profits.
Biden is the one that guided us out of the pandemic and put our nation on the economic path it is today where people can afford to buy ever-increasing priced (yet unnecessary) items like fast food.
The CEOs of these corporations are the ones constantly raising prices, which is upsetting consumers (yet not enough to get them to stop buying their overpriced items), and yet the consumers blame Biden for this and not the corporations themselves.
Biden is the president of the United States -- not the fucking president of McDonald's.
If someone is pissed because their McDouble went up in price, blame McDonald's -- don't blame Biden, unless you want to blame him for the great overall post-pandemic economy he has overseen that has allowed people to continue to buy their overpriced McDoubles, even as they continue to gripe about it.
Captain Zero
(8,905 posts)Not a compact car in sight. So they are sitting there burning gas too. Inflation can't be too bad.
Adjusted for inflation gas prices are where they were in 1977. 1977 average price was .50/Gallon.
The average price of a Big Mac in 1977 was 65 cents.
former9thward
(33,424 posts)Captain Zero
(8,905 posts)To match 1977 wages.
But RENTS should go down.
former9thward
(33,424 posts)Household income in 2022 was $74,580
https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2023/demo/p60-279.html
https://www.census.gov/library/publications/1978/demo/p60-117.html
$13, 570 inflation adjusted to 2022 dollars is $68,757
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
So household income is above what it was in 1977.
OAITW r.2.0
(32,133 posts)I remember looking at my dad's pay stubs after he died, in 1976. Mom kept them all.......blew my mind in 76 as to how you could live on a 1955 paycheck. And he was a WW2 vet manufacturing engineer back then.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,955 posts)TheProle
(3,980 posts)People are attracted to novelty.
Polybius
(21,900 posts)I would think the opposite, since it's a lot cheaper than restaurant food.
Inflation is because of corporate greed, not people waiting inline for food. Bad take is bad.
rdchili96
(175 posts)because there isn't one.
Autumn
(48,962 posts)Yavin4
(37,182 posts)No. Eating out is always more expensive. Doing so contributes to this expense.
Autumn
(48,962 posts)what I want. I'm not complaining.
Patton French
(1,824 posts)Than buy all the stuff and make it at home.
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)Not even close to being cheaper.
catsudon
(904 posts)if i only want one burger, i have to buy the smallest pack of ground beef, smallest size of mixed greens, one tomato, smallest pack of bacon, some potatoes for fries...etc
if i don't feel like eating burger for that week, some of the ingredients will no longer be good.
not to mention i have to drive 25 minutes home to make it, and drive back 25 minutes, my hour lunch is pretty much gone.
we don't have in-out here in Richmond, so it'd have to be Cookout which is about 10 min away from work.
now, if i have a big family... it'd more often then not be cheaper ,
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)You buy a normal amount of meat. Make the one burger. Freeze the rest.
but i've throw away lots of tomatoes ,lettuce, buns ...etc to know that is is not worth it for me.
however, if i were to make albondigas, pasta w/ bolognese sauce, or tiramisu it would be definitely cheaper, i can make a big batch and eat it over a month.
burger is not cheaper than eating out in my situation most of the time.
and i definitely get my money back making a tray of tiramisu, we all know much they charge for a small plate outside. (i can eat 4 servings in one sitting lol)
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)By buying bag lettuce, and using what's left of your tomato on a salad for another meal. At my local grocer, a Roma (plum) tomato runs around 24¢, and a bag of shreddy lettuce is around $1.98. Try getting a salad with those ingredients that cheap--anywhere.
So the other costs? A pound of 80% burger meat is around $4.69 where I am. Take out 1/4 lb to cook, freeze the rest, or cook them all and freeze them for later use. The 10 count of Kraft cheddar slices is $3.69--you can use the 9 additional slices for grilled cheese or, well, use your imagination. A pack of buns is around $2.25 for 8 of them. Take one out, freeze the rest. Or use them instead of toast for breakfast!
Onions, pickles, mustard and mayonnaise will keep for a long time, so they can be bought in a regular or even econo size that makes them cheaper, and has their cost for one burger literally pennies per for usage.
Adding it all up by per burger price, a homemade cheeseburger with the fixings would come out to no more than $2. That's waaaaaaaayyyy cheaper than going to any fast food place these days, and I can guarantee that the burger will be better.
So, yes, it's still cheaper to make your own hamburger than buying fast food, because you get more usage out of the ingredients for having a burger than one meal.
It's like people don't know how to *think* anymore about how to make use of what they're getting at the grocer's.
Patton French
(1,824 posts)Its undeniable that eating out (fast food or otherwise) can sometimes be more cost efficient than cooking the same meal at home. Not to mention convenience and taste issues.
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)That's simple math. If you eat more than you cook at home, over the course of a month, then you're going to be spending more money. You then forfeit the right to complain about prices if you're willing to eat out more.
Patton French
(1,824 posts)Surely that would be cheaper than buying clothes in a store.
Ms. Toad
(38,637 posts)The calculations on making clothes at home changed decades ago. My mother made most of our clothes because it was cheaper. I made some of mine in high school because I loved to sew - but by then the balance has shifted. It was a coin toss as to whether it was cheaper. Now, it is pretty much a luxury to make your own clothes. (If you make your own patterns, or use the same ones over and over again, it's sometimes a break even proposition.). Absent a sale, patterns are $7-$20, with most in the $13-$18 range. Su that is the starting cost - then add on the cost of fabric, thread, buttons, zippers, etc. I don't knit or crochet much, but the little I do suggests a similar economy.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)To make your own clothes these days. Fabric and yarn and notions like thread, zippers and buttons have risen in price far--far--more than food has over the past 40 years. You literally can't make a decent dress or blouse these days for cheaper than a store sells one.
I know because I've been sewing clothes for 50 years now, and when I was looking to get back into it after inheriting my grandmother's manual Singer sewing machine, I was shocked at how crazy the prices for fabric and notions have become. Even buying things on sale, I couldn't make a simple blouse for cheaper than I could get something similar at a favorite store. And I do *not* shop at Saks or Neiman's or any other posh stores. I haven't been able to afford to dress like that since I left my mum's home for good.
Compared to clothes-making supplies, food at the grocer's is still quite inexpensive, overall, and you can still make delicious, nutritious meals that are way cheaper than fast food...if you can be bothered to learn how to cook and especially how to shop smart.
The *only* time people can justify fast food being cheaper is if they don't have necessities for cooking like a fridge or stove, or if they live in a grocery desert. Then I'm willing to cut them slack.
Everyone else is just lazy. And don't start in on people having to work too long of hours to cook. I managed to cook for my family when I was working 60 hours or more per week. And I admit that I'm a lazy sod, far too often. If someone like me could still manage to shop for and cook a good meal despite the hours I worked, then anyone can.
fierywoman
(8,595 posts)I have a large stash of fabric that will easily supply clothes for me for the rest of my life. I find zippers on sale or at a cheap place. I only buy patterns when Joann's has a sale on them (usually about $2 a pattern -- more : ? ? $6 for Vogue? --- but, as you might imagine, I also have a stash of patterns, buttons and thread. (Have you noticed that the fabric that used to be 44/45" wide is now about 41" wide? Damn them.)
William769
(59,147 posts)I live alone which means I cook for one. I can't tell you how much I have wasted lettuce & tomatoes plus buns (all that waste means lost money). Yes I can freeze what hamburger I don't use but that's just a fraction of what it takes to cook just burgers.
Just admit you had your rear end handed to you on a In & out burger wrapper & move on. There's no shame in that.
MissB
(16,344 posts)I store a lot of food, and cook a lot from scratch.
If I wanted a hamburger right now, Id grab the two patties in the freezer that I have left from summer. If I didnt have any in the freezer, then Id go to the store and go to the meat counter and grab just enough for the two burgers and maybe a couple of slices of bacon if I didnt have any packages in the freezer (I buy the dual pack at Costco and divvy it up into smaller amounts and freeze them). Id go out to my garden and grab some arugula or baby kale or Swiss chard or whatever green is still growing. I usually have a tomato but if I didnt then I would grab one at the store. One russet potato would be enough for for baked or air fried fries for two.
But even if I had to buy a packet of hamburger, a packet of greens and a bunch of tomatoes, Id either find a way to use it that week (tacos, salads?).
I finally went to the in and out that opened two years ago about 20 miles down the freeway. I was not impressed.
Zeitghost
(4,557 posts)Just buying enough oil to properly deep fry french fries cost more than a Double Double meal and In-N-Out.
If I wanted to feed the family for a week on burgers and fries, I could do it cheaper. If I want a single meal for lunch on the go, it's much cheaper and far easier to go to In N Out.
MichMan
(17,150 posts)Yavin4
(37,182 posts)then you don't have a right to complain about inflation bc you are actively participating in an activity which causes prices to rise.
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Initech
(108,782 posts)Yeah I know the current CEO is an anti-vaxxer fuckhead, but I won't let that stop me from going there and enjoying a double double on occasion.
catsudon
(904 posts)my two best friends are lesbians who are married to each other, they call that place sinful chickens but still go there once a week because they like the food, and probably the only fast food place they would allow the kids to eat.
FHRRK
(1,410 posts)Havent jacked up prices, pay workers well, I believe they have a rule that HS kids can only be scheduled for 18 to 20 hours per week.
petronius
(26,696 posts)I do like In-N-Out, but I think I could wait a day or two...
flvegan
(66,279 posts)If that's true...what a waste of time, energy and resources.
Yes, that's my opinion. I'm sure the In n Out desperation is real for some. Though, I'd also imagine for a few it was solely to post for likes or recs or whatever on X, TikTok, Insta or whatever.
muriel_volestrangler
(106,208 posts)Even if they've decided they can spend the time working remotely, streaming movies, etc., the hassle of being in a slow-moving queue that you have to repeatedly move forward in by another car-length etc. surely outweighs any possible pleasure from the food.
flvegan
(66,279 posts)Better yet, imagine sitting in your car, snacking for 8 hours while waiting in the fast food drive through. Maybe get a pizza delivered to the car, while waiting in the fast food drive through.
First world problems.
C_U_L8R
(49,384 posts)and go to the counter
k55f5r
(520 posts)The counter is not faster - drive thru is prioritized over walk-in in every fast food restaurant I've ever eaten in.
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)Chick-fil-a is huge around here (Central Texas) and it's always faster to go inside and order because hardly anyone does that.
Same would be true for any fast food restaurant where the wait is more than 2-3 cars unless they're really efficient. Drive-through is prioritized, but that doesn't mean they ignore walk-ins. If there's no one in line, it's almost always faster to go inside.
Ms. Toad
(38,637 posts)They are not going to force those who walk-in to wait 8 hours.
So if the line is really 8 hours, their service would be faster if they walk-in rather than pull into an 8 hour line.
Johonny
(26,178 posts)And thus will likely attract a crowd.
kimbutgar
(27,248 posts)Governor Newsom. And the hamburger is just ok nothing special.
kysrsoze
(6,446 posts)There are so many places better than In 'N Out, and the owners are MAGA's, so I we spend a lot of time there.
haele
(15,398 posts)Hamburger, Cheeseburger, Double-double Burger (all with lettuce, tomato, grilled onions, and sauce), Fries, drinks, coffee, hot chocolate, 3 flavors of Shakes. That's it. Minimum supply chain stress.
The most expensive thing on the menu is a double-double with cheese, at between $4 and $5 depending on the location.
A person can easily get a complete Hamburger Meal for around $5.
And they pay well for fast food places, with an employee model similar to Costco's, including quick advancement to full time with benefits (including education benefits) and manager development/franchise ownership opportunities from within the company.
They didn't jack up prices too much over COVID, perhaps around 15% strictly on their supply costs increase. And didn't continue to raise prices just because they could.
All in all, they tend to be the most value fast food in the area, unless you're a vegan (they do have the secret menu grilled cheese only or vegetarian option is a bun with lettuce, tomato, grilled onions and sauce) - always check out their secret menu for specials.
Which is why there's always a line a block or so beyond at In n Out, no matter where they are.
Haele
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)Bottom line.
MichMan
(17,150 posts)Do you bake your own bread from scratch and grow all your own vegetables?
Celerity
(54,407 posts)The US is not a 3rd world nation.
Imagine Biden telling people to stop whingeing and eat only cheap home-cooked food.
That would work out just splendidly in 2024.
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)Demanding that McDonalds keeps it dollar menu is patently absurd.
Celerity
(54,407 posts)That was not the subject of your reply to which I responded.
It also is a different resto (as In-N-Out was what your OP talked about) and a different issue. You OP contained no people complaining about In-N-Out's prices.
Ms. Toad
(38,637 posts)And they were complaining about McDonald's $1 menu? It even the price of In and Out burgers?
Choosing to eat in a fast food restaurant, even choosing to spend hours to get bragging rights as one of the first, has nothing to do with observing correctly that The price of did (even staples from the grocery store) are increasing faster than wages.
robbob
(3,750 posts)Look how that went over! 🙄
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)Restaurants take advantage of economies of scale that aren't available to the average consumer.
Most consumers aren't buying in massive bulk or making dozens of the same item at a time.
If all one wants is a burger, try buying all of the ingredients to make one burger, including toppings and condiments, and see if it's cheaper than spending a few bucks at a restaurant.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Its a rare treat for me, as I have to watch my cholesterol but I dont get the griping that goes on from people who can just keep driving. They can go home and open a can of tuna, if the thought of seafood doesnt make them feel as guilty as eating cow does.
Autumn
(48,962 posts)Beaverhausen
(24,699 posts)To be honest, I love the fries and milkshakes. I don't eat meat. But they do have a 'grilled cheese' which is just the cheeseburger minus the burger.
Autumn
(48,962 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)An eight hour wait seems a bit much... so that leads me to conclude that there's not much going on in Idaho... and this beats driving circles around the perimeter of the Walmart parking lot on a Saturday night.
Maru Kitteh
(31,759 posts)There's no there there.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)You cant complain about .. is a terrible message to go into a campaign with.
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)Eating out is always more expensive than making it yourself.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)..it doesnt mean that you dont notice that the entree and wine list prices went up.
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)The restaurant has employees, suppliers, rent, etc. to pay, and what I pay for the food reflects that. This is also true for deliveries. We do not have a constitutional right to cheap food sold in a restaurant.
If I cannot afford it, I don't eat out.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Ms. Toad
(38,637 posts)If not, why do they lose the right to complain, generally about inflation?
Hekate
(100,133 posts)HAB911
(10,440 posts)if In/Out is so special
CrispyQ
(40,969 posts)Initech
(108,782 posts)The ones by me usually are as well, and there's like four I can choose from.
CrispyQ
(40,969 posts)Lame, I know but I always laughed when I passed by their sign. According to reviews, they were quick, too.
MineralMan
(151,268 posts)Elessar Zappa
(16,385 posts)People dont like to be scolded over their spending choices. And people have the right to complain about inflation even if theyre eating out.
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)Americans do not have some sort of constitutional right to cheap fast food.
dwnsouth
(53 posts)
TheFarseer
(9,770 posts)McDonalds is raising prices and theres nothing you can do about it. I can not go to McDonalds- so theres at least one thing I can do
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)So, I stopped going to Starbucks. It's that simple.
Wingus Dingus
(9,173 posts)That was before inflation was a thing. Maybe people just want to try a new burger and have time to kill? Fast food is still the cheapest way to eat out. Don't need to be a killjoy.
niyad
(132,440 posts)lines, cops directing traffic, news crews having wayyyyy too much fun. Much easier just going to Meadow Muffins.
rsdsharp
(12,002 posts)let alone a fast food hamburger!
LeftInTX
(34,289 posts)Polybius
(21,900 posts)If people like or anticipate something opening that's not expensive, they will wait on line for it in a either good, bad, or mediocre economy.
SWBTATTReg
(26,257 posts)going home and fixing us something else. This waiting in lines or queues is over for us. The two of us are dead set against lines of people waiting and waiting, and we have found over the years that usually the waiting is rarely justified.
I suspect because as a place gets busier and busier, their quality control slips, not all of them, but enough to establish a pattern to us.
This is the same as other things, those things that were 'to die for', cabbage patch dolls, pet rocks, designer shoes/clothes, etc., you name it, any number of those fads that popped up everywhere and folks were dying to find the items for their Xmas shopping etc. are all dead in the water, and you couldn't give them away (those 'hot' items).
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)None at all. The assertion is ridiculous. One restaurant that is temporarily busy because it's new is not going to drive prices up for an entire chain or the industry. That's just silly.
You further seem to assert that eating out causes inflation, because it always (another faulty assertion) costs more than eating at home.
Another ridiculous assertion. Inflation is an increase in prices of the same goods or services, not the difference in price between two different goods or services.
Celerity
(54,407 posts)Yavin4
(37,182 posts)Did I really say that? If I did, please provide a citation.
What I said was, if you are sitting in that line for 8 hours to buy fast food, then you forfeit the right to complain about higher prices. Eating out is always more expensive than preparing meals at home in times of inflation or otherwise. It's absurd to complain about higher prices when you're participating in an activity where prices are going to be higher no matter what.
dwnsouth
(53 posts)You have no idea people's situation. Your argument makes no sense. Often, eating out is more expensive than preparing a meal yourself. Not always. That is beside the point.
You can afford to eat out and still complain about inflation.
You can not regularly afford to eat out but occasionally save and splurge on a treat. And still complain about inflation
You can not afford to eat out and even mismanage your own funds. And still complain about inflation.
Complaining about losing buying power or feeling the squeeze of inflation is not predicated on perfectly disciplined financial behavior. To suggest that would mean everyone would have to strip their lives down to the absolute bare necessities in terms of housing, transportation and dining to gain the ability to complain about inflation?
"You can't complain about inflation, you aren't even living in a tent and eating alpo full time yet"
rdchili96
(175 posts)very ridiculous.
NameAlreadyTaken
(2,301 posts)What's not to love?
maveric
(17,044 posts)And the burgers are fresh cooked and not dry at all.
You must be thinking of some other burger joint.
NameAlreadyTaken
(2,301 posts)As for the bible verses: https://www.tasteofhome.com/article/in-n-out-packaging/
JoseBalow
(9,488 posts)They do cite some verses.
The burgers, however and never frozen and always delicious
maveric
(17,044 posts)Where do you live? Never saw that here.
JoseBalow
(9,488 posts)Perhaps you just never noticed? They are all corporate owned, no franchises, so I don't know why they would make an exception at some location. I see it everywhere.
Take a closer look next time you go.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/10/08/in-n-out-owner-lynsi-snyder-interview-bible-verses/3906363002/
RubyRose
(319 posts)Would be Chick Filet. Lines wrap around the store in both locations.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)ificandream
(11,837 posts)Torchlight
(6,829 posts)Full of passionate intensity.
captain queeg
(11,780 posts)After things died down I went and tried their donuts. They arent very good and overpriced. I cant see what the attraction is.
leftstreet
(40,678 posts)How UNVIRTUOUS and slovenly of working class people to complain about inflation, while also finding the opening of new burger joint a fun event.
They should grow their own potatoes - fries
Their own wheat - buns
Get a cow - burger
Tomatoes can be grown, and I think pickles come from...uh, cucumbers?
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,511 posts)TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)If they can't have rice paddies in the area then they can surely grow oats.
PLAIN RICE OR OATMEAL ONLY!!!
And keep it to a minimum, a cup a day tops!
FHRRK
(1,410 posts)You succeeded
What's wrong with Gaza posts exactly?
Jacson6
(2,013 posts)Autumn
(48,962 posts)and I've never seen a bible verse on the drink cup.
Shrek
(4,428 posts)Instead of growing it yourself.
Earth-shine
(4,044 posts)$11 for each meal: burger, fries, and soda.
It was a highly unremarkable experience.
The burgers were average (tasted like Wendy's, not BK or McDs).
The fries were greasy and shriveled. They didn't taste bad, but it could have been much better with some care from the kitchen.
I could have made it all at home, and much better, but we were already out and about.
I have never seen an In-N-Out here in Southern Florida. I'd try it.
TheProle
(3,980 posts)and you sit in line for more than 6 minutes, you forfeit your right to complain about inflation, so proceed judiciously.
You do not lose the right to complain about inflation if you do, what utter nonsense.
TheProle
(3,980 posts)gay texan
(3,217 posts)"Big Kahuna Burger"
You know that Hawaiian burger joint
"Damn! thats one tasty burger!!!"
Boomerproud
(9,292 posts)Whenever a new Star Wars film came out people who didn't have a life would camp out at the theater for 2 weeks. But...they got on teevee!
JoseBalow
(9,488 posts)I don't know of any other fast food chains that don't use that fake-shake goo stuff.
Also, you can get a root beer float off their secret menu, if you ask nicely
MerryBlooms
(12,248 posts)Donut shop opening. Locally, a Panerra opened a few months ago, still long drive thru line when I drive by, same with 5 Guys. Happens with donut franchises, burger joints, etc... Meh. Folks go for whatever reasons, wait for hours or even camp out. Krispy Kream donuts is a good example. People will be there the night before opening, and be served all night with donuts. When my sons were in high school, they and their friends went, and by the time they got inside opening morning, were sick of donuts, but bought a dozen to take to the teacher's lounge. 😄
GoneOffShore
(18,020 posts)Yuck.
OAITW r.2.0
(32,133 posts)My double cheeseburger brain receptors went into overdrive after reading this.
https://www.insider.com/fast-food-double-cheeseburgers-ranked-2021-9
ecstatic
(35,075 posts)lol
Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)Usually because I was with someone who wanted to go there. Let me describe the experience.
You park in a dirt lot hundreds of feet from the place because all the regular parking spaces are taken. Then you stand in line for 15 minutes to place your order. Then you wait another 15 minutes to get your order. Then you walk back to your car and eat it there because there were no empty tables. The food is relatively cheap and mediocre. The french fries are way under-cooked. Someone told me you have to order them "extra crispy". I don't think someone who probably sells 10 tons of french fries chain-wide daily should need instructions on how to cook them. Not impressed.
Retrograde
(11,419 posts)I go there a couple of times a year. The one nearest me has car ordering down to a science - a polite young person takes your order, relays it to the preparers, and tells you the total cost. By the time you get to the pickup place, the order is ready. I've only been inside in the ones in central California, but they've all been efficient and not overly crowded (tip: if you stop at one of the ones off I5 and decide you're going to eat your food at the next rest stop, your milkshake will melt by the time you get there). Are there better burgers - yes, including the ones I make. As a chain, though, I think they're way above McDonalds and Burger King.
Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)Last edited Fri Dec 15, 2023, 12:48 AM - Edit history (1)
and they are still somewhat of a novelty with no other ones nearby. Their food is consistent, and I give them credit for paying their employees better than other fast food places and promoting only from within. I think the Whopper Jr. is a pretty good copy of their burgers, with a slight edge to In-n-Out for the lettuce and tomato being better and fresher. They serve so many of them so fast that that lettuce on your burger was probably part of the head ten minutes ago. Likewise the tomato.
I once went to the original one in Southern California, and it was a madhouse, but I guess it's somewhat of a tourist attraction and very small.
The real deal-breaker for me was when the Health Dept. in San Francisco shut them down for not following mandated Covid protocols.
TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)IFFIN YOUSE EAT EVEN A SINGLE FAST FOOD BURGER FROM A BURGER JOINT EVAH YOUR RIGHT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT PRICES ON ANYTHING EVAH ID OVA!
hardluck
(783 posts)After having wasted my time reading this thread?
And yeah its cheaper to buy a burger than make it myself if, given my hourly rate, we count my labor cost.
That said, I enjoy cooking so Ill roll my own on occasion.