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Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 12:29 PM Dec 2023

If you're in line at this new In-N-Out restaurant, then you forfeit the right to complain about inflation

This is a Tweet showing massive lines to buy an In-N-Out burger at a new location in Idaho. Idaho! One shot shows a 4 car lane with bumper to bumper traffic waiting to order. These same people will whine and complain about inflation.





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If you're in line at this new In-N-Out restaurant, then you forfeit the right to complain about inflation (Original Post) Yavin4 Dec 2023 OP
I'm not seeing the connection. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2023 #1
People are super eager to over pay for fast food which drives the price. Yavin4 Dec 2023 #3
Food prices Johnny2X2X Dec 2023 #12
So if I'm willing to spend $8 on less than a pound of bacon and have the time to cook it at home, does that indicate WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2023 #18
If you're willing to wait 8 hours in your car to buy one meal, then Yavin4 Dec 2023 #30
Okay but it's still not clear why you think so. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2023 #49
*Sigh* rdchili96 Dec 2023 #117
$8??? Do they require you to kill the pig yourself? maxrandb Dec 2023 #40
I don't have a Lidl WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2023 #51
"The solution to higher prices is higher prices." W_HAMILTON Dec 2023 #90
No gas efficient vehicles in that line Captain Zero Dec 2023 #22
Shall we push wages back to 1977 levels also? former9thward Dec 2023 #24
No they need to go up Captain Zero Dec 2023 #25
Household income in 1977 was $13,570 former9thward Dec 2023 #33
Lived thru this reality. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2023 #115
and mpgs WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2023 #26
Lighten up TheProle Dec 2023 #45
So people who complain about inflation can't spend on fast food? Polybius Dec 2023 #61
*sigh* rdchili96 Dec 2023 #122
Right.... rdchili96 Dec 2023 #116
In and Out burgers are cheaper than McDonalds. Taste better too. Autumn Dec 2023 #2
Is it cheaper than making the burgers at home yourself? Yavin4 Dec 2023 #4
Their burgers are great and their service is fast. I am more than happy to pay for Autumn Dec 2023 #6
Actually, it is cheaper to buy a burger and fries from in and out Patton French Dec 2023 #10
No. It's not. Yavin4 Dec 2023 #29
it's situational isn't it? catsudon Dec 2023 #38
Have you heard of freezing? Yavin4 Dec 2023 #43
yes catsudon Dec 2023 #52
You get around the lettuce as a single person ExWhoDoesntCare Dec 2023 #99
You're trying really hard to support a generalized proposition that is not always true Patton French Dec 2023 #54
It may be more convenient, but not more cost effective than cooking at home esp. over several meals. Yavin4 Dec 2023 #57
Are we also required to knit our own clothes before we can opine on inflation? Patton French Dec 2023 #59
While I agree with your point, Ms. Toad Dec 2023 #79
You really don't know how expensive it is ExWhoDoesntCare Dec 2023 #100
You're absolutely right about the cost of materials to do your own sewing. fierywoman Dec 2023 #105
Here's some simple math for you William769 Dec 2023 #112
Absolutely situational MissB Dec 2023 #80
It's far cheaper in many cases Zeitghost Dec 2023 #98
So anyone who ever eats out at all, has no basis to complain about inflation anywhere? MichMan Dec 2023 #36
If you're sitting in that line for hours to buy a burger and fries... Yavin4 Dec 2023 #96
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2023 #5
In-N-Out's prices are pretty reasonable and they pay their employees well. Initech Dec 2023 #7
yeah like chik-f-la catsudon Dec 2023 #39
Quality food, good service FHRRK Dec 2023 #8
A bunch of homesick California expats, maybe? petronius Dec 2023 #9
"The drive-thru wait was 8 hours" flvegan Dec 2023 #11
It doesn't exactly fit with "fast food", does it? muriel_volestrangler Dec 2023 #14
Imagine how hungry they were when they finally got their food! flvegan Dec 2023 #83
It didn't occur to them to get out of their cars C_U_L8R Dec 2023 #20
you must not eat out much k55f5r Dec 2023 #55
Counter is much faster at some places. TwilightZone Dec 2023 #67
Within limits. Ms. Toad Dec 2023 #114
They're highly overrated by Californians Johonny Dec 2023 #13
I stopped going to In and out when I found out the owners were big funders behind recalling our kimbutgar Dec 2023 #16
It's more visitors to California. Their burgers are mediocre at best. The Habit is WAY better. kysrsoze Dec 2023 #31
In n Out is a basic Hamburger joint. No specials, no extras. haele Dec 2023 #15
It's. Still. More. Expensive. Than. Making. It. At. Home. Yavin4 Dec 2023 #28
Buying any prepared foods is always more expensive than growing your own MichMan Dec 2023 #37
Taking a stance that makes most any eating out an act that makes any complaints about prices illegitimate is nonsensical Celerity Dec 2023 #65
Complaining about the price of groceries is acceptable and should be addressed as a national economic issue. Yavin4 Dec 2023 #69
Red Herring Celerity Dec 2023 #77
So you interviewed the folks standing in line, Ms. Toad Dec 2023 #82
Jimmy Carter told people to turn the thermostat down to 68 and put a sweater on robbob Dec 2023 #97
No, it's not. TwilightZone Dec 2023 #75
If what you want is a burger, it's a darn good burger. They are decent employers, too. Hekate Dec 2023 #68
They have an excellent grilled cheese and a burger that has no meat. Autumn Dec 2023 #89
Here in California there are always lines at In-N-Out. They are that good Beaverhausen Dec 2023 #17
I like that you can watch the fries being cut. Best fries anywhere. Autumn Dec 2023 #41
I love their burgers, but I think I could wait until after the excitement was over. Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #19
It's an In-n-Out, not a Capital Grille for frappes sake. Let this one go. Maru Kitteh Dec 2023 #21
The OP expresses a dangerous attitude... brooklynite Dec 2023 #23
But you really cannot complain about inflation if you're constantly eating out. Yavin4 Dec 2023 #27
If you can afford to eat out.... brooklynite Dec 2023 #35
When I eat out, I don't complain about prices. Yavin4 Dec 2023 #47
Ah, now we find out that you yourself eat out! Hekate Dec 2023 #72
We're the people in line complaining about restaurant prices? Ms. Toad Dec 2023 #84
And you know they are "constantly eating out" how? Please tell us how you know this? Hekate Dec 2023 #71
It just tells me it's a shithole town with no place to eat HAB911 Dec 2023 #32
So hardly anyone actually goes into the place called IN-N-OUT Burger, they drive through. CrispyQ Dec 2023 #34
I went to the one in Inglewood last weekend, it was pretty packed, both inside and drive thru. Initech Dec 2023 #42
There used to be a copy center in my area named In-and-Out Reproduction Center. CrispyQ Dec 2023 #46
Sign inside: "We Take Our Time so You're Completely Satisfied." MineralMan Dec 2023 #76
Hopefully Biden doesn't campaign like this. Elessar Zappa Dec 2023 #44
Biden should campaign on the price of groceries dropping, not the price of fast food. Yavin4 Dec 2023 #48
No he shouldn't dwnsouth Dec 2023 #63
My favorite headline ever from a few months back TheFarseer Dec 2023 #50
Starbucks raised its basic coffee to $4 here in NYC. Yavin4 Dec 2023 #70
This happened in Colorado too, when In-n-Out opened its first locations here. Wingus Dingus Dec 2023 #53
I remember when they opened the first one here in the Springs. Hours-long niyad Dec 2023 #132
Inflation or not, I wouldn't wait 8 hours if there was an Iron Chef prepared meal at the end, rsdsharp Dec 2023 #56
LOL - "But the price of gas!" LeftInTX Dec 2023 #58
Sorry, but inflation has zero to do with this at all Polybius Dec 2023 #60
I always avoid places where they are long lines, etc. Nothing is worth waiting for that long. I'd be happy just SWBTATTReg Dec 2023 #62
There's zero connection between inflation and waiting in the drive-thru of one new restaurant. TwilightZone Dec 2023 #64
+1 Celerity Dec 2023 #66
Did I really say that there was a connection between inflation and eating out? Yavin4 Dec 2023 #74
Foolish Logic dwnsouth Dec 2023 #81
Yeah... rdchili96 Dec 2023 #119
Dry, tough burgers and bible verses on the cups NameAlreadyTaken Dec 2023 #73
Bible verses on In n Out cups? Eat there a often and never saw that. maveric Dec 2023 #104
No, In-N-Out. Dry, tough burger patties. Yuck. NameAlreadyTaken Dec 2023 #108
Look closely at the drinks and fries next time JoseBalow Dec 2023 #109
Not the one in my San Diego neighborhood. maveric Dec 2023 #113
I'm pretty sure it's the same everywhere JoseBalow Dec 2023 #123
Only place that busy here RubyRose Dec 2023 #78
Raising Canes gets those crowds as well AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2023 #85
Have yet to eat at an In-N-Out and have no desire to. ificandream Dec 2023 #86
Sounds really serious! Torchlight Dec 2023 #87
When they first opened a Cripy Kreme donut shop near my house it was the same kind of shit for a couple weeks captain queeg Dec 2023 #88
Why aren't these people growing their own food? leftstreet Dec 2023 #91
"Get a cow" MorbidButterflyTat Dec 2023 #103
What the hell do they need all that for?!? TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #129
If your goal was to make Gaza posts palatable.. FHRRK Dec 2023 #92
huh? rdchili96 Dec 2023 #120
What is so great about burnt hamburgers and over cooked French fries? n/t Jacson6 Dec 2023 #93
Ive never had a dry burger from In and Out. The fries are always fresh and perfect Autumn Dec 2023 #106
You have no right to complain about inflation if you buy food from a grocer Shrek Dec 2023 #94
The wife and I went to BurgerFi for the first time. Earth-shine Dec 2023 #95
If you do get the chance to try it TheProle Dec 2023 #101
No... rdchili96 Dec 2023 #121
That was the intent. TheProle Dec 2023 #130
Meh. For me its gay texan Dec 2023 #102
This is like one of those stories local news tacks on at the end of the broadcast. Boomerproud Dec 2023 #107
They use actual REAL ice cream in their shakes JoseBalow Dec 2023 #110
The same thing happens with every novel restaurant or MerryBlooms Dec 2023 #111
Krispy Kreme just opened a shop in Paris - The line was 500 people long. GoneOffShore Dec 2023 #133
maybe it had to do with this article. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2023 #118
8 hours? Does everyone "work" from home nowadays? ecstatic Dec 2023 #124
I've been to In-n-Out about five times. Mr.Bill Dec 2023 #125
"Nobody goes there - it's too crowded" Retrograde Dec 2023 #127
Most of the ones I've been to are in Northern California Mr.Bill Dec 2023 #128
This is in the ballpark of yelling at clouds territory TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #126
Do I have a right to complain about inflation hardluck Dec 2023 #131
 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
3. People are super eager to over pay for fast food which drives the price.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 12:36 PM
Dec 2023

If you're willing to spend money and time to buy In-N-Out burger then you really are not that concerned about prices. So, you should stop complaining about a problem that you're directly contributing to.

Johnny2X2X

(24,207 posts)
12. Food prices
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 12:57 PM
Dec 2023

Over the last 12 months, the latest inflation data shows a 1.7% increase in store bought food, and a 5.2% increase in restaurant prices.

So food is barely going up at the store, but people are still eating out.

We're in a situation right now where wages have been rising faster than prices for several months, but people think back to 8 or 9% inflation when this wasn;t the case and forget that yes, we did have 9% inflation for a time, but during that time, wages were rising at like 5 and 6%. So yes, we were falling behind due to global inflation, but it wasn't like people weren't getting more money to offset a lot of it.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,955 posts)
18. So if I'm willing to spend $8 on less than a pound of bacon and have the time to cook it at home, does that indicate
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 01:10 PM
Dec 2023

that I'm really not that concerned about prices, too, and shouldn't complain?

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
30. If you're willing to wait 8 hours in your car to buy one meal, then
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 01:23 PM
Dec 2023

you don't have a right to complain about inflation.

maxrandb

(17,426 posts)
40. $8??? Do they require you to kill the pig yourself?
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 01:52 PM
Dec 2023

3.18 a pound today at LIDL, and I can get 2-12 link packages of breakfast sausage at 2 for $4.

I guess they have Kobi pigs now.

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
90. "The solution to higher prices is higher prices."
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 04:07 PM
Dec 2023

As long as people continue to pay higher prices for very much not necessary items like fast food, then for-profit corporations will gladly continue to raise their prices and build upon their already record-breaking profits.

Biden is the one that guided us out of the pandemic and put our nation on the economic path it is today where people can afford to buy ever-increasing priced (yet unnecessary) items like fast food.

The CEOs of these corporations are the ones constantly raising prices, which is upsetting consumers (yet not enough to get them to stop buying their overpriced items), and yet the consumers blame Biden for this and not the corporations themselves.

Biden is the president of the United States -- not the fucking president of McDonald's.

If someone is pissed because their McDouble went up in price, blame McDonald's -- don't blame Biden, unless you want to blame him for the great overall post-pandemic economy he has overseen that has allowed people to continue to buy their overpriced McDoubles, even as they continue to gripe about it.

Captain Zero

(8,905 posts)
22. No gas efficient vehicles in that line
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 01:13 PM
Dec 2023

Not a compact car in sight. So they are sitting there burning gas too. Inflation can't be too bad.

Adjusted for inflation gas prices are where they were in 1977. 1977 average price was .50/Gallon.

The average price of a Big Mac in 1977 was 65 cents.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,133 posts)
115. Lived thru this reality.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 09:54 PM
Dec 2023

I remember looking at my dad's pay stubs after he died, in 1976. Mom kept them all.......blew my mind in 76 as to how you could live on a 1955 paycheck. And he was a WW2 vet manufacturing engineer back then.

Polybius

(21,900 posts)
61. So people who complain about inflation can't spend on fast food?
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 02:24 PM
Dec 2023

I would think the opposite, since it's a lot cheaper than restaurant food.

rdchili96

(175 posts)
122. *sigh*
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 10:18 PM
Dec 2023

Inflation is because of corporate greed, not people waiting inline for food. Bad take is bad.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
4. Is it cheaper than making the burgers at home yourself?
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 12:37 PM
Dec 2023

No. Eating out is always more expensive. Doing so contributes to this expense.

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
6. Their burgers are great and their service is fast. I am more than happy to pay for
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 12:40 PM
Dec 2023

what I want. I'm not complaining.

Patton French

(1,824 posts)
10. Actually, it is cheaper to buy a burger and fries from in and out
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 12:55 PM
Dec 2023

Than buy all the stuff and make it at home.

catsudon

(904 posts)
38. it's situational isn't it?
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 01:44 PM
Dec 2023

if i only want one burger, i have to buy the smallest pack of ground beef, smallest size of mixed greens, one tomato, smallest pack of bacon, some potatoes for fries...etc

if i don't feel like eating burger for that week, some of the ingredients will no longer be good.

not to mention i have to drive 25 minutes home to make it, and drive back 25 minutes, my hour lunch is pretty much gone.

we don't have in-out here in Richmond, so it'd have to be Cookout which is about 10 min away from work.


now, if i have a big family... it'd more often then not be cheaper ,

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
43. Have you heard of freezing?
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 01:55 PM
Dec 2023

You buy a normal amount of meat. Make the one burger. Freeze the rest.

catsudon

(904 posts)
52. yes
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 02:10 PM
Dec 2023

but i've throw away lots of tomatoes ,lettuce, buns ...etc to know that is is not worth it for me.

however, if i were to make albondigas, pasta w/ bolognese sauce, or tiramisu it would be definitely cheaper, i can make a big batch and eat it over a month.


burger is not cheaper than eating out in my situation most of the time.
and i definitely get my money back making a tray of tiramisu, we all know much they charge for a small plate outside. (i can eat 4 servings in one sitting lol)

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
99. You get around the lettuce as a single person
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 07:09 PM
Dec 2023

By buying bag lettuce, and using what's left of your tomato on a salad for another meal. At my local grocer, a Roma (plum) tomato runs around 24¢, and a bag of shreddy lettuce is around $1.98. Try getting a salad with those ingredients that cheap--anywhere.

So the other costs? A pound of 80% burger meat is around $4.69 where I am. Take out 1/4 lb to cook, freeze the rest, or cook them all and freeze them for later use. The 10 count of Kraft cheddar slices is $3.69--you can use the 9 additional slices for grilled cheese or, well, use your imagination. A pack of buns is around $2.25 for 8 of them. Take one out, freeze the rest. Or use them instead of toast for breakfast!

Onions, pickles, mustard and mayonnaise will keep for a long time, so they can be bought in a regular or even econo size that makes them cheaper, and has their cost for one burger literally pennies per for usage.

Adding it all up by per burger price, a homemade cheeseburger with the fixings would come out to no more than $2. That's waaaaaaaayyyy cheaper than going to any fast food place these days, and I can guarantee that the burger will be better.

So, yes, it's still cheaper to make your own hamburger than buying fast food, because you get more usage out of the ingredients for having a burger than one meal.

It's like people don't know how to *think* anymore about how to make use of what they're getting at the grocer's.

Patton French

(1,824 posts)
54. You're trying really hard to support a generalized proposition that is not always true
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 02:14 PM
Dec 2023

It’s undeniable that eating out (fast food or otherwise) can sometimes be more cost efficient than cooking the same meal at home. Not to mention convenience and taste issues.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
57. It may be more convenient, but not more cost effective than cooking at home esp. over several meals.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 02:18 PM
Dec 2023

That's simple math. If you eat more than you cook at home, over the course of a month, then you're going to be spending more money. You then forfeit the right to complain about prices if you're willing to eat out more.

Patton French

(1,824 posts)
59. Are we also required to knit our own clothes before we can opine on inflation?
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 02:21 PM
Dec 2023

Surely that would be cheaper than buying clothes in a store.

Ms. Toad

(38,637 posts)
79. While I agree with your point,
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 03:16 PM
Dec 2023

The calculations on making clothes at home changed decades ago. My mother made most of our clothes because it was cheaper. I made some of mine in high school because I loved to sew - but by then the balance has shifted. It was a coin toss as to whether it was cheaper. Now, it is pretty much a luxury to make your own clothes. (If you make your own patterns, or use the same ones over and over again, it's sometimes a break even proposition.). Absent a sale, patterns are $7-$20, with most in the $13-$18 range. Su that is the starting cost - then add on the cost of fabric, thread, buttons, zippers, etc. I don't knit or crochet much, but the little I do suggests a similar economy.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
100. You really don't know how expensive it is
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 07:26 PM
Dec 2023

To make your own clothes these days. Fabric and yarn and notions like thread, zippers and buttons have risen in price far--far--more than food has over the past 40 years. You literally can't make a decent dress or blouse these days for cheaper than a store sells one.

I know because I've been sewing clothes for 50 years now, and when I was looking to get back into it after inheriting my grandmother's manual Singer sewing machine, I was shocked at how crazy the prices for fabric and notions have become. Even buying things on sale, I couldn't make a simple blouse for cheaper than I could get something similar at a favorite store. And I do *not* shop at Saks or Neiman's or any other posh stores. I haven't been able to afford to dress like that since I left my mum's home for good.

Compared to clothes-making supplies, food at the grocer's is still quite inexpensive, overall, and you can still make delicious, nutritious meals that are way cheaper than fast food...if you can be bothered to learn how to cook and especially how to shop smart.

The *only* time people can justify fast food being cheaper is if they don't have necessities for cooking like a fridge or stove, or if they live in a grocery desert. Then I'm willing to cut them slack.

Everyone else is just lazy. And don't start in on people having to work too long of hours to cook. I managed to cook for my family when I was working 60 hours or more per week. And I admit that I'm a lazy sod, far too often. If someone like me could still manage to shop for and cook a good meal despite the hours I worked, then anyone can.

fierywoman

(8,595 posts)
105. You're absolutely right about the cost of materials to do your own sewing.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 08:50 PM
Dec 2023

I have a large stash of fabric that will easily supply clothes for me for the rest of my life. I find zippers on sale or at a cheap place. I only buy patterns when Joann's has a sale on them (usually about $2 a pattern -- more : ? ? $6 for Vogue? --- but, as you might imagine, I also have a stash of patterns, buttons and thread. (Have you noticed that the fabric that used to be 44/45" wide is now about 41" wide? Damn them.)

William769

(59,147 posts)
112. Here's some simple math for you
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 09:34 PM
Dec 2023

I live alone which means I cook for one. I can't tell you how much I have wasted lettuce & tomatoes plus buns (all that waste means lost money). Yes I can freeze what hamburger I don't use but that's just a fraction of what it takes to cook just burgers.

Just admit you had your rear end handed to you on a In & out burger wrapper & move on. There's no shame in that.

MissB

(16,344 posts)
80. Absolutely situational
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 03:17 PM
Dec 2023

I store a lot of food, and cook a lot from scratch.

If I wanted a hamburger right now, I’d grab the two patties in the freezer that I have left from summer. If I didn’t have any in the freezer, then I’d go to the store and go to the meat counter and grab just enough for the two burgers and maybe a couple of slices of bacon if I didn’t have any packages in the freezer (I buy the dual pack at Costco and divvy it up into smaller amounts and freeze them). I’d go out to my garden and grab some arugula or baby kale or Swiss chard or whatever green is still growing. I usually have a tomato but if I didn’t then I would grab one at the store. One russet potato would be enough for for baked or air fried fries for two.

But even if I had to buy a packet of hamburger, a packet of greens and a bunch of tomatoes, I’d either find a way to use it that week (tacos, salads?).

I finally went to the in and out that opened two years ago about 20 miles down the freeway. I was not impressed.

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
98. It's far cheaper in many cases
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 07:05 PM
Dec 2023

Just buying enough oil to properly deep fry french fries cost more than a Double Double meal and In-N-Out.

If I wanted to feed the family for a week on burgers and fries, I could do it cheaper. If I want a single meal for lunch on the go, it's much cheaper and far easier to go to In N Out.

MichMan

(17,150 posts)
36. So anyone who ever eats out at all, has no basis to complain about inflation anywhere?
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 01:37 PM
Dec 2023
 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
96. If you're sitting in that line for hours to buy a burger and fries...
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 06:37 PM
Dec 2023

then you don't have a right to complain about inflation bc you are actively participating in an activity which causes prices to rise.

Response to Autumn (Reply #2)

Initech

(108,782 posts)
7. In-N-Out's prices are pretty reasonable and they pay their employees well.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 12:40 PM
Dec 2023

Yeah I know the current CEO is an anti-vaxxer fuckhead, but I won't let that stop me from going there and enjoying a double double on occasion.

catsudon

(904 posts)
39. yeah like chik-f-la
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 01:47 PM
Dec 2023

my two best friends are lesbians who are married to each other, they call that place sinful chickens but still go there once a week because they like the food, and probably the only fast food place they would allow the kids to eat.

FHRRK

(1,410 posts)
8. Quality food, good service
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 12:45 PM
Dec 2023

Haven’t jacked up prices, pay workers well, I believe they have a rule that HS kids can only be scheduled for 18 to 20 hours per week.



petronius

(26,696 posts)
9. A bunch of homesick California expats, maybe?
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 12:46 PM
Dec 2023

I do like In-N-Out, but I think I could wait a day or two...

flvegan

(66,279 posts)
11. "The drive-thru wait was 8 hours"
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 12:56 PM
Dec 2023

If that's true...what a waste of time, energy and resources.

Yes, that's my opinion. I'm sure the In n Out desperation is real for some. Though, I'd also imagine for a few it was solely to post for likes or recs or whatever on X, TikTok, Insta or whatever.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,208 posts)
14. It doesn't exactly fit with "fast food", does it?
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 01:04 PM
Dec 2023

Even if they've decided they can spend the time working remotely, streaming movies, etc., the hassle of being in a slow-moving queue that you have to repeatedly move forward in by another car-length etc. surely outweighs any possible pleasure from the food.

flvegan

(66,279 posts)
83. Imagine how hungry they were when they finally got their food!
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 03:39 PM
Dec 2023

Better yet, imagine sitting in your car, snacking for 8 hours while waiting in the fast food drive through. Maybe get a pizza delivered to the car, while waiting in the fast food drive through.

First world problems.

k55f5r

(520 posts)
55. you must not eat out much
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 02:16 PM
Dec 2023

The counter is not faster - drive thru is prioritized over walk-in in every fast food restaurant I've ever eaten in.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
67. Counter is much faster at some places.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 02:34 PM
Dec 2023

Chick-fil-a is huge around here (Central Texas) and it's always faster to go inside and order because hardly anyone does that.

Same would be true for any fast food restaurant where the wait is more than 2-3 cars unless they're really efficient. Drive-through is prioritized, but that doesn't mean they ignore walk-ins. If there's no one in line, it's almost always faster to go inside.

Ms. Toad

(38,637 posts)
114. Within limits.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 09:46 PM
Dec 2023

They are not going to force those who walk-in to wait 8 hours.

So if the line is really 8 hours, their service would be faster if they walk-in rather than pull into an 8 hour line.

kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
16. I stopped going to In and out when I found out the owners were big funders behind recalling our
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 01:07 PM
Dec 2023

Governor Newsom. And the hamburger is just ok nothing special.

kysrsoze

(6,446 posts)
31. It's more visitors to California. Their burgers are mediocre at best. The Habit is WAY better.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 01:24 PM
Dec 2023

There are so many places better than In 'N Out, and the owners are MAGA's, so I we spend a lot of time there.

haele

(15,398 posts)
15. In n Out is a basic Hamburger joint. No specials, no extras.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 01:04 PM
Dec 2023

Hamburger, Cheeseburger, Double-double Burger (all with lettuce, tomato, grilled onions, and sauce), Fries, drinks, coffee, hot chocolate, 3 flavors of Shakes. That's it. Minimum supply chain stress.

The most expensive thing on the menu is a double-double with cheese, at between $4 and $5 depending on the location.
A person can easily get a complete Hamburger Meal for around $5.
And they pay well for fast food places, with an employee model similar to Costco's, including quick advancement to full time with benefits (including education benefits) and manager development/franchise ownership opportunities from within the company.

They didn't jack up prices too much over COVID, perhaps around 15% strictly on their supply costs increase. And didn't continue to raise prices just because they could.

All in all, they tend to be the most value fast food in the area, unless you're a vegan (they do have the secret menu grilled cheese only or vegetarian option is a bun with lettuce, tomato, grilled onions and sauce) - always check out their secret menu for specials.
Which is why there's always a line a block or so beyond at In n Out, no matter where they are.

Haele




MichMan

(17,150 posts)
37. Buying any prepared foods is always more expensive than growing your own
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 01:39 PM
Dec 2023

Do you bake your own bread from scratch and grow all your own vegetables?

Celerity

(54,407 posts)
65. Taking a stance that makes most any eating out an act that makes any complaints about prices illegitimate is nonsensical
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 02:28 PM
Dec 2023

The US is not a 3rd world nation.

Imagine Biden telling people to stop whingeing and eat only cheap home-cooked food.

That would work out just splendidly in 2024.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
69. Complaining about the price of groceries is acceptable and should be addressed as a national economic issue.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 02:41 PM
Dec 2023

Demanding that McDonalds keeps it dollar menu is patently absurd.

Celerity

(54,407 posts)
77. Red Herring
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 02:58 PM
Dec 2023
Demanding that McDonalds keeps it dollar menu is patently absurd.


That was not the subject of your reply to which I responded.

It also is a different resto (as In-N-Out was what your OP talked about) and a different issue. You OP contained no people complaining about In-N-Out's prices.

Ms. Toad

(38,637 posts)
82. So you interviewed the folks standing in line,
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 03:37 PM
Dec 2023

And they were complaining about McDonald's $1 menu? It even the price of In and Out burgers?

Choosing to eat in a fast food restaurant, even choosing to spend hours to get bragging rights as one of the first, has nothing to do with observing correctly that The price of did (even staples from the grocery store) are increasing faster than wages.

robbob

(3,750 posts)
97. Jimmy Carter told people to turn the thermostat down to 68 and put a sweater on
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 06:49 PM
Dec 2023

Look how that went over! 🙄

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
75. No, it's not.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 02:53 PM
Dec 2023

Restaurants take advantage of economies of scale that aren't available to the average consumer.

Most consumers aren't buying in massive bulk or making dozens of the same item at a time.

If all one wants is a burger, try buying all of the ingredients to make one burger, including toppings and condiments, and see if it's cheaper than spending a few bucks at a restaurant.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
68. If what you want is a burger, it's a darn good burger. They are decent employers, too.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 02:39 PM
Dec 2023

It’s a rare treat for me, as I have to watch my cholesterol — but I don’t get the griping that goes on from people who can just keep driving. They can go home and open a can of tuna, if the thought of seafood doesn’t make them feel as guilty as eating cow does.



Beaverhausen

(24,699 posts)
17. Here in California there are always lines at In-N-Out. They are that good
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 01:08 PM
Dec 2023

To be honest, I love the fries and milkshakes. I don't eat meat. But they do have a 'grilled cheese' which is just the cheeseburger minus the burger.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
19. I love their burgers, but I think I could wait until after the excitement was over.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 01:12 PM
Dec 2023

An eight hour wait seems a bit much... so that leads me to conclude that there's not much going on in Idaho... and this beats driving circles around the perimeter of the Walmart parking lot on a Saturday night.

Maru Kitteh

(31,759 posts)
21. It's an In-n-Out, not a Capital Grille for frappes sake. Let this one go.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 01:12 PM
Dec 2023

There's no there there.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
23. The OP expresses a dangerous attitude...
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 01:14 PM
Dec 2023

“You can’t complain about…..” is a terrible message to go into a campaign with.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
27. But you really cannot complain about inflation if you're constantly eating out.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 01:20 PM
Dec 2023

Eating out is always more expensive than making it yourself.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
35. If you can afford to eat out....
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 01:36 PM
Dec 2023

…..it doesn’t mean that you don’t notice that the entree and wine list prices went up.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
47. When I eat out, I don't complain about prices.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 01:58 PM
Dec 2023

The restaurant has employees, suppliers, rent, etc. to pay, and what I pay for the food reflects that. This is also true for deliveries. We do not have a constitutional right to cheap food sold in a restaurant.

If I cannot afford it, I don't eat out.

Ms. Toad

(38,637 posts)
84. We're the people in line complaining about restaurant prices?
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 03:41 PM
Dec 2023

If not, why do they lose the right to complain, generally about inflation?

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
71. And you know they are "constantly eating out" how? Please tell us how you know this?
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 02:43 PM
Dec 2023

CrispyQ

(40,969 posts)
34. So hardly anyone actually goes into the place called IN-N-OUT Burger, they drive through.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 01:32 PM
Dec 2023

Initech

(108,782 posts)
42. I went to the one in Inglewood last weekend, it was pretty packed, both inside and drive thru.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 01:54 PM
Dec 2023

The ones by me usually are as well, and there's like four I can choose from.

CrispyQ

(40,969 posts)
46. There used to be a copy center in my area named In-and-Out Reproduction Center.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 01:58 PM
Dec 2023


Lame, I know but I always laughed when I passed by their sign. According to reviews, they were quick, too.

Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
44. Hopefully Biden doesn't campaign like this.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 01:55 PM
Dec 2023

People don’t like to be scolded over their spending choices. And people have the right to complain about inflation even if they’re eating out.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
48. Biden should campaign on the price of groceries dropping, not the price of fast food.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 02:00 PM
Dec 2023

Americans do not have some sort of constitutional right to cheap fast food.

TheFarseer

(9,770 posts)
50. My favorite headline ever from a few months back
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 02:06 PM
Dec 2023

“McDonald’s is raising prices and there’s nothing you can do about it”. I can not go to McDonald’s- so there’s at least one thing I can do”

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
70. Starbucks raised its basic coffee to $4 here in NYC.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 02:42 PM
Dec 2023

So, I stopped going to Starbucks. It's that simple.

Wingus Dingus

(9,173 posts)
53. This happened in Colorado too, when In-n-Out opened its first locations here.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 02:14 PM
Dec 2023

That was before inflation was a thing. Maybe people just want to try a new burger and have time to kill? Fast food is still the cheapest way to eat out. Don't need to be a killjoy.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
132. I remember when they opened the first one here in the Springs. Hours-long
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 08:18 AM
Dec 2023

lines, cops directing traffic, news crews having wayyyyy too much fun. Much easier just going to Meadow Muffins.

rsdsharp

(12,002 posts)
56. Inflation or not, I wouldn't wait 8 hours if there was an Iron Chef prepared meal at the end,
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 02:17 PM
Dec 2023

let alone a fast food hamburger!

Polybius

(21,900 posts)
60. Sorry, but inflation has zero to do with this at all
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 02:22 PM
Dec 2023

If people like or anticipate something opening that's not expensive, they will wait on line for it in a either good, bad, or mediocre economy.

SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
62. I always avoid places where they are long lines, etc. Nothing is worth waiting for that long. I'd be happy just
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 02:24 PM
Dec 2023

going home and fixing us something else. This waiting in lines or queues is over for us. The two of us are dead set against lines of people waiting and waiting, and we have found over the years that usually the waiting is rarely justified.

I suspect because as a place gets busier and busier, their quality control slips, not all of them, but enough to establish a pattern to us.

This is the same as other things, those things that were 'to die for', cabbage patch dolls, pet rocks, designer shoes/clothes, etc., you name it, any number of those fads that popped up everywhere and folks were dying to find the items for their Xmas shopping etc. are all dead in the water, and you couldn't give them away (those 'hot' items).

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
64. There's zero connection between inflation and waiting in the drive-thru of one new restaurant.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 02:28 PM
Dec 2023

None at all. The assertion is ridiculous. One restaurant that is temporarily busy because it's new is not going to drive prices up for an entire chain or the industry. That's just silly.

You further seem to assert that eating out causes inflation, because it always (another faulty assertion) costs more than eating at home.

Another ridiculous assertion. Inflation is an increase in prices of the same goods or services, not the difference in price between two different goods or services.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
74. Did I really say that there was a connection between inflation and eating out?
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 02:47 PM
Dec 2023

Did I really say that? If I did, please provide a citation.

What I said was, if you are sitting in that line for 8 hours to buy fast food, then you forfeit the right to complain about higher prices. Eating out is always more expensive than preparing meals at home in times of inflation or otherwise. It's absurd to complain about higher prices when you're participating in an activity where prices are going to be higher no matter what.

 

dwnsouth

(53 posts)
81. Foolish Logic
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 03:19 PM
Dec 2023

You have no idea people's situation. Your argument makes no sense. Often, eating out is more expensive than preparing a meal yourself. Not always. That is beside the point.

You can afford to eat out and still complain about inflation.
You can not regularly afford to eat out but occasionally save and splurge on a treat. And still complain about inflation
You can not afford to eat out and even mismanage your own funds. And still complain about inflation.

Complaining about losing buying power or feeling the squeeze of inflation is not predicated on perfectly disciplined financial behavior. To suggest that would mean everyone would have to strip their lives down to the absolute bare necessities in terms of housing, transportation and dining to gain the ability to complain about inflation?

"You can't complain about inflation, you aren't even living in a tent and eating alpo full time yet"




maveric

(17,044 posts)
104. Bible verses on In n Out cups? Eat there a often and never saw that.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 08:42 PM
Dec 2023

And the burgers are fresh cooked and not dry at all.
You must be thinking of some other burger joint.

JoseBalow

(9,488 posts)
109. Look closely at the drinks and fries next time
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 09:19 PM
Dec 2023

They do cite some verses.

The burgers, however and never frozen and always delicious

JoseBalow

(9,488 posts)
123. I'm pretty sure it's the same everywhere
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 10:23 PM
Dec 2023

Perhaps you just never noticed? They are all corporate owned, no franchises, so I don't know why they would make an exception at some location. I see it everywhere.

Take a closer look next time you go.





https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/10/08/in-n-out-owner-lynsi-snyder-interview-bible-verses/3906363002/

RubyRose

(319 posts)
78. Only place that busy here
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 03:10 PM
Dec 2023

Would be Chick Filet. Lines wrap around the store in both locations.

captain queeg

(11,780 posts)
88. When they first opened a Cripy Kreme donut shop near my house it was the same kind of shit for a couple weeks
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 03:50 PM
Dec 2023

After things died down I went and tried their donuts. They aren’t very good and overpriced. I can’t see what the attraction is.

leftstreet

(40,678 posts)
91. Why aren't these people growing their own food?
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 04:18 PM
Dec 2023

How UNVIRTUOUS and slovenly of working class people to complain about inflation, while also finding the opening of new burger joint a fun event.

They should grow their own potatoes - fries
Their own wheat - buns
Get a cow - burger
Tomatoes can be grown, and I think pickles come from...uh, cucumbers?

 

TheKentuckian

(26,314 posts)
129. What the hell do they need all that for?!?
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 11:40 PM
Dec 2023

If they can't have rice paddies in the area then they can surely grow oats.

PLAIN RICE OR OATMEAL ONLY!!!

And keep it to a minimum, a cup a day tops!

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
106. Ive never had a dry burger from In and Out. The fries are always fresh and perfect
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 08:50 PM
Dec 2023

and I've never seen a bible verse on the drink cup.

Shrek

(4,428 posts)
94. You have no right to complain about inflation if you buy food from a grocer
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 06:29 PM
Dec 2023

Instead of growing it yourself.

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
95. The wife and I went to BurgerFi for the first time.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 06:35 PM
Dec 2023

$11 for each meal: burger, fries, and soda.

It was a highly unremarkable experience.

The burgers were average (tasted like Wendy's, not BK or McDs).

The fries were greasy and shriveled. They didn't taste bad, but it could have been much better with some care from the kitchen.

I could have made it all at home, and much better, but we were already out and about.

I have never seen an In-N-Out here in Southern Florida. I'd try it.

TheProle

(3,980 posts)
101. If you do get the chance to try it
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 07:30 PM
Dec 2023

and you sit in line for more than 6 minutes, you forfeit your right to complain about inflation, so proceed judiciously.

rdchili96

(175 posts)
121. No...
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 10:17 PM
Dec 2023

You do not lose the right to complain about inflation if you do, what utter nonsense.

gay texan

(3,217 posts)
102. Meh. For me its
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 07:49 PM
Dec 2023

"Big Kahuna Burger"

You know that Hawaiian burger joint

"Damn! thats one tasty burger!!!"

Boomerproud

(9,292 posts)
107. This is like one of those stories local news tacks on at the end of the broadcast.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 08:55 PM
Dec 2023

Whenever a new Star Wars film came out people who didn't have a life would camp out at the theater for 2 weeks. But...they got on teevee!

JoseBalow

(9,488 posts)
110. They use actual REAL ice cream in their shakes
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 09:24 PM
Dec 2023

I don't know of any other fast food chains that don't use that fake-shake goo stuff.

Also, you can get a root beer float off their secret menu, if you ask nicely

MerryBlooms

(12,248 posts)
111. The same thing happens with every novel restaurant or
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 09:31 PM
Dec 2023

Donut shop opening. Locally, a Panerra opened a few months ago, still long drive thru line when I drive by, same with 5 Guys. Happens with donut franchises, burger joints, etc... Meh. Folks go for whatever reasons, wait for hours or even camp out. Krispy Kream donuts is a good example. People will be there the night before opening, and be served all night with donuts. When my sons were in high school, they and their friends went, and by the time they got inside opening morning, were sick of donuts, but bought a dozen to take to the teacher's lounge. 😄

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
125. I've been to In-n-Out about five times.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 10:41 PM
Dec 2023

Usually because I was with someone who wanted to go there. Let me describe the experience.

You park in a dirt lot hundreds of feet from the place because all the regular parking spaces are taken. Then you stand in line for 15 minutes to place your order. Then you wait another 15 minutes to get your order. Then you walk back to your car and eat it there because there were no empty tables. The food is relatively cheap and mediocre. The french fries are way under-cooked. Someone told me you have to order them "extra crispy". I don't think someone who probably sells 10 tons of french fries chain-wide daily should need instructions on how to cook them. Not impressed.

Retrograde

(11,419 posts)
127. "Nobody goes there - it's too crowded"
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 11:21 PM
Dec 2023

I go there a couple of times a year. The one nearest me has car ordering down to a science - a polite young person takes your order, relays it to the preparers, and tells you the total cost. By the time you get to the pickup place, the order is ready. I've only been inside in the ones in central California, but they've all been efficient and not overly crowded (tip: if you stop at one of the ones off I5 and decide you're going to eat your food at the next rest stop, your milkshake will melt by the time you get there). Are there better burgers - yes, including the ones I make. As a chain, though, I think they're way above McDonalds and Burger King.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
128. Most of the ones I've been to are in Northern California
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 11:34 PM
Dec 2023

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and they are still somewhat of a novelty with no other ones nearby. Their food is consistent, and I give them credit for paying their employees better than other fast food places and promoting only from within. I think the Whopper Jr. is a pretty good copy of their burgers, with a slight edge to In-n-Out for the lettuce and tomato being better and fresher. They serve so many of them so fast that that lettuce on your burger was probably part of the head ten minutes ago. Likewise the tomato.

I once went to the original one in Southern California, and it was a madhouse, but I guess it's somewhat of a tourist attraction and very small.

The real deal-breaker for me was when the Health Dept. in San Francisco shut them down for not following mandated Covid protocols.

 

TheKentuckian

(26,314 posts)
126. This is in the ballpark of yelling at clouds territory
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 11:09 PM
Dec 2023

IFFIN YOUSE EAT EVEN A SINGLE FAST FOOD BURGER FROM A BURGER JOINT EVAH YOUR RIGHT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT PRICES ON ANYTHING EVAH ID OVA!

hardluck

(783 posts)
131. Do I have a right to complain about inflation
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 12:41 AM
Dec 2023

After having wasted my time reading this thread?

And yeah it’s cheaper to buy a burger than make it myself if, given my hourly rate, we count my labor cost.

That said, I enjoy cooking so I’ll roll my own on occasion.


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