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Tom of Temecula

(1,632 posts)
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 02:35 AM Dec 2023

Jurors were in tears as poll worker described defamation by Giuliani

Rudy Giuliani could be in for a tough ride after two of the eight jurors in the defamation case he's fighting were seen crying as the plaintiff recounted being targeted, defamed, and subsequently attacked. Specifically, when Ruby Freeman was telling the court that she could no longer use her real name, two women in the juror box were seen getting emotional, according to Andrew Rice of New York Magazine.

"I will say that, at one point in the testimony yesterday when Ruby Freeman, the mother and pair was testifying, she became very emotional. She started to talking about how she really couldn't use her anymore, people knew who she was because of this ignominy attached to her name and she couldn't introduce herself to people."

Rice added that "she moved to a new place, she gave up her home, moved to a new neighborhood, she just felt like she didn't have an identity anymore." The jurors reportedly responded to that.

"I saw one woman who was similar looking to Ruby Freeman in the sense that she was an older African American woman, dabbing her eyes with a tissue. And then, next to her, a woman who was a white middle aged white women also started... and seemed to be quite emotional. I think that it is only an eight person jury, so if two of the eight people are crying when the plaintiff is talking, it's not good for the defendant."

https://www.rawstory.com/rudy-giuliani-jury-in-tears/



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struggle4progress

(126,158 posts)
1. Will Rudy's innovative defense --- "I'm a demented 80-year-old alcoholic who can't buckle my belt, can't get
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 02:46 AM
Dec 2023

to court on time, can't stand for the judge, and can't stop defaming the plaintiffs" --- win him enough sympathy to save him his last dollars? Or will the jury just decide it's time to ship him to the knackers?

Old Crank

(7,084 posts)
5. Good.
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 05:09 AM
Dec 2023

The court should immediately appoint a conservator for him and his assets and he is stuffed into a nursing home until he can prove mental competence. The conservator gets to pay out any findings against him.

RockRaven

(19,381 posts)
2. The harm Rudy Giuliani has done to other people in the course of his life
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 02:51 AM
Dec 2023

is far beyond the capacity of any court or jury to remediate...

But every single one with any opportunity to do so had better give it the old college try for fuck's sake!

ShazzieB

(22,592 posts)
4. My god, that picture gives me the creeps! 😱
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 03:45 AM
Dec 2023

He looks utterly deranged there!

A part of me wants to feel a little bit sorry for him, because he's such a pathetic mess, but when I remember what he did (and continues to do!) to Moss and Freeman, I feel guilty for feeling that way even a little bit. No matter how much money he has to pay them, it will be less of a penalty than he deserves.

And to think so many people thought this assclown was such a hero after 9/11. America's mayor! How the mighty have fallen!

Butterflylady

(4,584 posts)
11. He looks like the monster that he is.
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 11:19 AM
Dec 2023

That picture is truly what he is, a disgusting old man. Because of what he has done he will never have a happy ending.

llmart

(17,623 posts)
6. What? No hair dye running down his ugly mug?
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 05:35 AM
Dec 2023

Yikes! It's too early in the morning for me to have to look at that creepy face.

North Shore Chicago

(4,243 posts)
7. Whatever amount
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 06:42 AM
Dec 2023

the jury decides, it will be like getting blood out of a turnip. He would spend more money (IF he has any) for his lawyers than these two victims fighting the judgment.

Iris

(16,875 posts)
8. That white woman had better not leave that jury room until there is a guilty verdict on all counts
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 08:15 AM
Dec 2023

This is the opportunity to put some action behind those tears.

Liberal In Texas

(16,271 posts)
9. This is the penalty phase. He's already been found guilty.
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 09:08 AM
Dec 2023

When the jurors are sobbing after victim testimony, the defendant is probably f'ed.

Iris

(16,875 posts)
14. To the tune of $148 million!
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 05:49 PM
Dec 2023

Thanks for clarifying where things were in the process. I'm moving out of state and all of my news is peripheral these days!

Joinfortmill

(21,169 posts)
12. This is a good sign for a huge financial judgment for these poor, frightened women. Rudy destroyed himself.
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 12:05 PM
Dec 2023

ArkansasDemocrat1

(3,213 posts)
17. That large an award could be beneficial
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 11:56 PM
Dec 2023

As it could give the plaintiffs a larger share of the proceeds in relation to that IRS lien and the others.

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